News from France:
Beginning this evening at midnight (12 am September 16 – EBD) holding Muslim prayers in the streets of Paris will be prohibited. The announcement was made by France’s Interior Minister, Claude Gueant, in an interview published today by the daily Le Figaro, which noted that ‘use of force’ against those not complying with the regulation had not been ruled out.
Those who would cry “racism!” or call for greater accommodation surely know in their heart of hearts that if large groups of Christians had been blocking streets and sidewalks with mass prayers the practice would have been stopped years ago.
(h/t BCF)
For all intent and purposes,Canada is a country made up of English and French descendants. That is our heritage.
It is changing rapidly,and we don’t have to look anywhere but to England and France to see where we are heading.
We should enact similar laws NOW.
The pushback seems to be picking up steam.
All HELL will break loose. The French know that its now or never. Unfortunately, it’s probably too late. Unless, France today is tougher than the French Resistance of WWII, the Foreign Legion, and Napolean combined they are eventually going to succumb to Isalmization. The fanatics will not stop unless they are opposed without mercy. And the Will is not there, neither is the Law.
If the pinkos running the French government had taken a basic engineering course in control theory they would understand why “too little too late” is an appropriate description of their actions.
The french don’t have the guts to enforce this new law. Europeans are gutless, just like Canadians. Our heritage is going down the drain just like in Europe, but at least we have bitterly cold winters to keep praying Muslims off our streets.
It is times like this that I remember the words of Jesus:
“And when ye pray, ye shall not be as the hypocrites: for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have received their reward.
But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thine inner chamber, and having shut thy door, pray to thy Father who is in secret, and thy Father who seeth in secret shall recompense thee.”
(Matthew 6: 5-6)
So not only are these Muslims hypocrites but show-offs and bullies. If they felt truly prayerful, wouldn’t they go somewhere quiet to communicate with God? I thought that was the point of prayer- to quietly communicate with God, not show everybody “this is the ummah and you better get used to it”.
And about time.
Also agree with this…
“Those who would cry “racism!” or call for greater accommodation surely know in their heart of hearts that if large groups of Christians had been blocking streets and sidewalks with mass prayers the practice would have been stopped years ago.”
Kinda like the way McSquinty moved out the Indians in Caledonia. Imagine just for a moment that you and your neighbours blocked off your street like in Calendonia.
How fast do you think it would be before you and yours would be moved off “with force”?
Yeah, about that fast.
Good for France (for once).
Signs that maybe France is not in the best financial shape ever: cops stop screwing around and start busting guys for burning cars and blocking streets.
Next up, expulsion of habitual criminals back to Whereverstan. Hopefully the French stop short of marching every Muslim in the country to Turkey. Historically they just don’t know when to quit once they get on a roll.
Praying in the streets is not a religious act, but a political one.
“Praying in the streets is not a religious act, but a political one.
Posted by: grok at September 16, 2011 4:36 PM”
EXactly. It’s a show of force.
There are Frenchmen around who know how to do this. Ask any Algerian. The Foreign legion would have owned that but for the bleeding hearts at home. I have seen Paris CRS in action. Makes the G8 police response look tame and makes the Vancouver Police look like complete woosies (which they are). It should be mighty entertaining for the next few weeks.
Burka ban in Holland and now France grows a pair.
Here, I’ll put my money on the sheep-phuckers.
Read the article carefully. This is the key line that tells you that this is too little too late:
“The minister underscored that a ‘convention’ had been signed with Muslim associations so that a former barracks could be used as a place of prayer.”
Let this be a clear lesson to Canada: if you let things go too far you cannot recover no matter what you do. The French are screwed.
Yep. The French’ll pass the law, the mohamadans will continue to do as they please, and the French authorities will do nothing.
Belgium, France, Germany and Italy crack down as they have realized that the “critical mass” is now at their door step. For those that critize their resolve – all I say is “Watch them”
Burning of cars, honour killings, no-go areas, attempts at Sharia law and silly dress have forced this finally. The Hun is NOW at the City gate.
The UK has yet to understand and Canada with the “Royal” connection may be downstream of many multicultural surprises until We wake up and deal with the issues of consecutive left-wing governments and communist/marxist departments and agencies posing as saviours of the moral and social code.
Looks to me like it’s Car-B-Que season again.
I thought we figured this issue out already.
Islam is not a race.
“Those who would cry ‘racism!’ or call for greater accommodation surely know in their heart of hearts that if large groups of Christians had been blocking streets and sidewalks with mass prayers the practice would have been stopped years ago.”
Hrm. You mean something like this? Yeah, it should have been stopped centuries ago, but, unfortunately, it’s still happening.
Fair enough. Paris streets are for flaneurs & shitting dogs.
Accomodation
Parisian Muslims escaped a government ban on street prayers Friday when some 5,000 worshippers piled into a makeshift mosque in the north of the capital.
After years of unfurling prayer mats on streets, pavements and in bicycle lanes, Parisian Muslims on Friday were finally able to put their foreheads to the ground somewhere they knew they weren’t stopping traffic. Not quite a mosque yet, their new place of worship is a 2,000-square-metre disused fire station in the north of the capital.
The building’s inauguration Friday afternoon, which saw thousands of Muslims welcomed from across Paris, also marked the first day of a ban on street prayers that had long been promised by France’s right-wing government.
[…]
French law stipulates that no show of religious allegiance is allowed in public, which is what makes praying in the street a punishable offence. But until recently, the law had only been enforced in state schools, where Jewish skullcaps, Muslim headscarves and Christian crucifixes are banned.
For those of you who think similar laws here will stop this sort of thing, think again. What we really need is an immigration policy that doesn’t let those who are crazy enough to pray on a sidewalk or dress up their chattle in burkas to move here in the first place.
Treat the disease, not the symptoms.
I didn’t know the pope visits Paris and Madrid every Friday
Posted by: Alex at September 16, 2011 6:09 PM
Hey, Einstein, the next time the Pope instructs his flock to self-detonate or fly planes into buildings to slaughter innocents, run your mouth. Until then, why not STFU? You won’t look so stupid that way.
mhb23re
MHB, that’s just Alex being Alex. If you pretend he’s not there, you’ll be able to engage in proper conversation with the intelligent people who post here as opposed to wasting your time on a troll like him.
Anyway, as was said quite rightly and succinctly at 4:36 PM by Grok, this praying in the streets nonsense is all political and should be pointed to these brain-trusts. They’ll yammer on, for sure, about one thing or another but at least one will have some small sort of satisfaction having pointed out their stupid little game.
“Hey, Einstein, the next time the Pope instructs his flock to self-detonate or fly planes into buildings to slaughter innocents, run your mouth. Until then, why not STFU? You won’t look so stupid that way.”
Ah, ok, so then you’re saying this IS racism. Cool. Maybe you want to explain that to EBD? He seems to be confused.
Thanks!
As long as it is enforced evenly against all those who would turn the streets into religious worship lanes, then it is a good law. Of course Libertopia’s roads would all be private if they weren’t military but so long as they aren’t the roads should really be reserved for traffic, parades, and perhaps protests.
Would that noddyrules would be right, but I expect that TJ and Mississauga Matt will be right.
It will be interesting to see how the “religion of peace” reacts to this and also to watch the Paris police force piss down both legs..
Doing salat in the street is not a show of force. Go to the middle east and you will see thousands rushing to pray in the outdoors. In Africa you see the mosque spillover into the streets all the time.
I am no fan of Islam, but the secular rules that apply to it should also apply to other religions practises and vice versa.
The bigger issue is the divergence of current Islamic practises from the Judeo Christian practises underpinning the developed world. That needs to be addressed in a big way.
@ owen
Why don’t you say that in public on canadian soil in a crowd of men you coward !!1 you have no idea what the will of men are like in this country , and while our govornemnt is SUPPOSE to represent us and who we are and what we stand for latley they have not , That will be the day that they pray openely and publicly on our street’s consitently , i can only speak for myself but i have a very nice loud stero in my car and it will easily drownd out any prayer i also am well equipt to protect my porperty , so before you lump canadians in with the french and euorpeans , let me be the first to say while we are one in the same in heritage , we are nothing like them in culture we are proud we are still men here and we will fight to the F@cking bloody death before we ever get taken , it will not happen, we slapped the americans back across the boarder , and we burnt there white house to the ground . don’t F2ck with us here in canada there are lot’s of us gun toting bible thumpin mother f@ckers here that will soon let people like you , know exactly what we think of islam and anyother threat to this great nation from coast to coast to beautiful coast .
Now f@ck off!
You obviously have never got into a tussle with one of our soldiers , nor have you ever met a real canadian man and spouted this sh!t to him , i tell you the truth if you said thisi n public i would make damn sure you would at least think about it the next time you felt like saying such sh!t.
F!CK YOU and have a nice day!!!!
People like you give my country a bad name abroad you coward!!
Alex i think i told you before i am for maintaining our judeo christian /secular and for the most part any other heritage ,except islam it is the only religion that is purley irreconsilible with the west. I just wish you would immerse yourself in there culturwe like go to iran by yourself alone and walk the street’s the same way you do here go to siria, and you will i am sure of it be running into a christian church before you can say athiest.
I don’t hate muslims i hate the religion it is 7th century barbarism , compared to everyother it is the worst by far persicuting it’s own 10 fold over any other but in our lands iti s a free for all because people like you defend there right’s while tring youyr hardest to throw yourself ,your culture (judeo christian/ secualr) down the toilet why do you hate everyhting that you know so much and why do you self loathe so vehemently that you refuse to see islam for what it is?
Do you think clitorectamies are part of canaidian culture? do you think they fit in with what we do here? or better yet do you think beheading your daughter for chewing bubble gum during ramadan is something that easily fit’s into what we as canadians deem acceptable?
Stupid question, but…. why can’t worshipers practice elsewhere? A park? I mean if I can travel to a specific neighbourhood to practice, would a park not be at times closer?
Serious question tho’. Are there limitations in Islam that force this display? And by extension imposition on others?
If Muslims really are 10% of the French population then France is in bad trouble. Offering people of north African descent and so on money to relinquish their French citizenship and return to their ancestral homes must be looking like a very good bet now. Given how lovely life in les banlieues (banlieux?) is supposed to be, I bet they’d find a lot of takers.
We should note that over 200 Muslims went ahead and ignored this law praying in the streets of Paris this evening.
The Gendarmes sprang into action and did precisely nothing.
“MHB, that’s just Alex being Alex. If you pretend he’s not there, you’ll be able to engage in proper conversation with the intelligent people who post here as opposed to wasting your time on a troll like him”
Hah, of course you’re right, O.K.; Troll-ex must have caught me napping with his original post. His follow-up at 7:05p was a loony non sequitur at best and not worthy of a response, so I’ll not offer one. Likely he’s unfamiliar with the Law of Holes.
mhb
“Likely he’s unfamiliar with the Law of Holes.”
You’d need to have a hole in your head to consider my response a non-sequitur. Seriously. How do you function in normal society? Here, let me lay it out more clearly, so you can understand:
EBD says: This isn’t discrimination, because Christians wouldn’t be allowed to do that either!
I say: Um, here’s two videos of Christians doing that.
You say: OF COURSE IT’S DISCRIMINATION!!!! MUSLIMS ARE TEH EEEEVIL!!!
I say: Go talk to EBD.
Clear? Or do you need some pretty pictures to help you understand?
Paul, I told you, until you learn English and start reading something other than the bible, I’m not interested.
They are not blocking streets and besides , the muslims are blocking streets and so forth in a forgien country how disrespectful do you see christians blocking the street’s in iran alex? Only if they are stacked six feet high buddy …you really are a waste , there is no connecting with you at all why ? Why do you continue to reflect peoples responses with syinical silly retorts as apposed to intellegent debate? All you do is take peoples words twist them around and puke them out at the person …what you linked to is completley different they are not blocking ordinary citizens going about there buisness they are not using intimidation , how can you be so blind?
Hi Alex, EBD here.
The 2008 Papal Mass in Paris, a video of which you submitted as “proof” that Christians block streets just like Muslims do every Friday, was held in a vast open area called the Esplanade des Invalides – “a wide (250 meter, 810 feet) and long (490 meter, 1,410 feet) *open lawn* area on the north side of the Hotel des Invalides that extends to the Seine river.”
Here’s a photo of it.
Take a good long look, Alex. Does that look like a street to you? Or does it perhaps look more like a graphic illustration of how illogical and inane your “argument” (6:09 pm) is?
Why do you continue to humiliate yourself this way?
EBD
I suspect Alex comes here for the sense of family…people who care pay attention and some other folks crave it.
Posted by: EBD at September 16, 2011 11:50 PM
Pearls before swine, EBD: Troll-ex is either ignoring facts, or is uncontrollably stupid.
Either way, you waste your time corresponding with it.
mhb
EBD, if you think they fit 250,000 on that lawn, you’re even stupider than you first sounded. But let us, just for one second, pretend that you’re right. So what? Got any insight on the second video? No? Didn’t think so. Want me to go find some more for ya? Here ya go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_KqVWrq3QI
how many more do I need to give you before you pull your head out of your ass and admit that christians do their crazy shit in public on a regular basis?
The only real question here is, are you intentionally lying, or have you lived such a sheltered life that you’re honestly not aware of these things?
Alex you really are that ..hmmmm well i won’t say it cause i beleive it is not true …..all i will say it that they are not blocking streets and walk way’s against the general public, athiest’s included but for me the argument is deeper and you know what i am getting at ….
You HATE chritians,christianity,Jesus,or anything that resembles christianity.
While at the same time defending, in more or less of terms the “right” of muslims to do what they feel?….. Where is your distinction?
The video you have shown is agreeable amongst the general public, no one is upset that these vile putride christians be thrown out into the street’s .
oh lord i pray for thee. You are arguing the validdity of twisty bulbs against incondecent bulbs, can’t you figure it out ..nothing you posted is even close to relevant. but it don’t matter you don’t read what i write anyway so lemmi say this …i pray for you . god bless and i wish you clarity on your journey. Please may god find residence in your heart. let him in, you will be amazed.
Calm down, Alex. There’s no need to get all out of breath and start gibbering.
Ahh, so it’s a lawn now? Only a few hours ago you delivered, as your essential and only point – as if it was the coup de grâce that sealed your argument and mortally wounded those of your opponents – an outright assertion (6:09 pm) that Christians block *streets* in the same way that some Muslims block the *streets* every Friday in areas of Paris.
So you were wrong on that, and you’re equally wrong about your next gambit: Yes, Alex, they can very easily fit 250,000 people in the Esplanade des Invalides. It’s 810 feet wide by 1,410 feet long, or just over 1.142 million square feet, which works out to a more than ample 4.5 square feet per person — lots of room, Alex, lots and lots of room.
I don’t usually dispense advice, Alex, but it seems to me that when a rageful naysayer has been proven wrong on his essential and, well, only point – the point on which his entire argument rests – and then proceeds in his response to completely elide this on-the-record mistake, opting instead to regroup for yet another extemporized, inane, rageful, factually incorrect point, he’s kinda lost the high ground. Am I wrong about that, Alex?
I don’t know. Have the people closest to you – your family, your friends, or maybe one of your teachers, or some of your classmates – ever tried to talk to you about your demonstrated propensity to think your rageful, inane arguments should be taken seriously, even when your arguments have no logical basis? When you just jump from one hate-filled, entirely subjective assertion to another?
I suspect they have.
You should try to avoid pretending that your arguments and assertions are based on facts, Alex, ’cause it’s just not working for you. Stick to your usual ad hominem broadsides, and state-indoctrinated, common wisdom assertions, because that’s really all you’ve got.
Well said EBD!
“Have the people closest to you – your family, your friends…”
Heh. That would require having, er, actual “friends” and family that didn’t disown you, EBD: you know, people that were truly “close” to you. Those are long-shot odds in this case.
Nice smackdown, though.
mhb
Why are we feeding Trollex again? Why are we giving this dawg a bone? STARVE IT.
Still EBD, nice head shot. 🙂
Seriously, are we going to let another thread get derailed by Trollex? Why can’t you people just ignore his posts? What is this compulsion to reply?
Phantom, and Colin: you’re both entirely right.
On very rare occasions I reply, but a) only to points of egregious factual error, and b) only at the tail end of dead threads well down the main page.
Whoops. Looks like this comments thread wasn’t as dead, or as far down the main page, as I thought it was. Serious error in judgement on my part.