A small — very small — victory for common sense and the right to self-defence was won in Alberta yesterday. Crown prosecutors withdrew assault charges against Joe Singleton, an oilfield consultant from the town of Taber, about two hours south and east of Calgary.
… the details from Gunter.
I wonder if Mr. Singleton can sue the crown and police for the ensuing legal fees incurred. Otherwise any self-righteous prosecutor can “punish” anyone they want by breaking them with financial ruin. The prosecutor then drops the charges and buddy is still paying lawyer fees until the end of time.
Gee, it’s kind of like those (in)Humane Rights Boards; you lose no matter what.
In case anyone (like Davenport) was wondering why the punks were allowed to riot in Vancouver, this is why. Nobody want to be Joe Singleton over the price of a lousy car.
Acquaintance of mine owned a shop on Yonge St. when they had that race “riot” in the 1990s, one of the punks who looted the front window display ended up on the front page of the Toronto Sun and was subsequently arrested and tried. The shop owner said it cost them personally more to show up in court and testify than the window and the merchandise did.
The kid didn’t do time, as I recall. Probably has twelve kids of his own from four different women by now, about the right age to be starting their own rioting careers.
And that, my friends, is why rioters feel all safe and happy to post themselves on f-ing facebook.
There’s currently a much more egregious case than this going on in Port Colbourne Ont. where Ian Thomson was charged after defending his home from four men who were firebombing it. Molotov cocktails, same as Vancouver. The crown dropped two charges of “pointing a firearm” and “dangerous use of a firearm” in March, but Mr. Thomson remains charged with two counts of “careless storage”, no doubt because the gun was not inside a safe when he fired a warning shot over the heads of the FOUR MEN TRYING TO BURN DOWN HIS HOUSE WITH HIM IN IT. Oh, and he has video of all this, they’d been threatening him for years apparently.
And that is why you want to let them burn the f-ing parking garage down with your car in it, rather than see them off with your 12 gauge.
Are we learning yet, davenport?
Texas, you’d probably have to prove malicious prosecution to see a dime back, and short of a court-house confession I can’t imagine how you’d prove that.
Lurking minions of Mr. Harper, are you listening dudes? The natives are restless.
You mean, it might not be considered proper for our “justice system” to victimize the victim any more? What a blow to Trudeaupian leftists everywhere!
Not as bad as the UK yet, but getting there unless there are a lot more small victories. BTW, who are the prosecutors these days? The same precious numbskulls who run the “Human Rights” Star Chambers?
So much for the rights of victims, I would like to know whether the thief was prosecuted and sentenced.
I guess the moral of the story is he should have used the other end of the axe. No complaints no charges?
Wrongful prosecution doesn’t require malice, does it? But I don’t know if there is such a thing. Also, there was no presumption of innocence, if they were forcing him to do the punishment prior to conviction, I would think, so shouldn’t there be some basis for suing there? But then, I’m not a lawyer, so I’m just guessing.
So Phantom that is why we have to reframe this as living up to our responsibilities as civilized men defending against the nasty savage when this kind of prosecution goes on. It is our duty (not to be acted on to our danger or excessively), but one of the obligations of living in a civilized society is to defend it against the nasty savages.
the noblesc, problem we have is the nassssty savages RUN THE GOVERNMENT.
We don’t live in a civilized society. We live in a society that used to be civilized, but now isn’t.
We are in nothing less than a slow motion civil war, and our side has been -losing- up to this point. Losing badly, to the point where we really don’t have the power to defend our own lives, families and possessions. For real.
Ok, the CPC won an election. Nice baby step. Ok, Joe Singleton had his charges dropped. Nice baby step. Credit where its due and all that.
What needs to happen is Crown attorneys getting fired for charging Ian Thomson and Joe Singleton when they were clearly and obviously defending themselves, and with great restraint. Police constables need to be remembering -fearfully- what happened to the last constable in their unit that railroaded a home defender.
Castle Doctrine Now. And a tax cut, we could do with less crown justice dept. apparatchiks. Fire the Liberal ones.
After reading a story today about the Queen’s praetorian guard, The RCMP, writing tickets and then seizing cars in Kootenay Park for the crime against the Queen of going 40kmh over the speed limit, and then this story, I have a few things to say.
When are the lemming weaklings known as Canadians going to do something abouit this? Is this not a call to arms? If not, what is?
These Mounties are stranding people and their families on the side of the road! They know that Canadians are cowardly lemming-like sheep and can get away with it. I agree with them.
Time for a Canadian REPUBLIC with an elected President and Head of State. Time for Canadians to ELECT their Premiers instead of having a congenital retard foreigner appoint ALL of your leaders.
For God Sakes smarten up.
KPD put down that bong and get down from your high. You are incoherent. Premiers are elected in all ten provinces of this great Dominion
Ralph Klein had the solution. Shoot , shovel and shutup. The joy of living in rural Canada.
peterj wins the thread with the only sensible solution.
peterj has the best solution to dealing with thieves in a rural situation; might be overkill but sure saves a lot of legal costs.
I realize the legal risks I face if I deal with criminals as they should be dealt with. If I’m in a similar situation, I’m not going to think about future repercussions at that time. What I learned from my kickboxing days was that there’s the wetware equivalent of a little hypothalamic switch one can flip to go into attack mode and then nothing matters except eliminating the threat in front of you (still have trouble turning it off once activated). The best piece of advice I’ve gotten from a cop is to make sure that you let the criminal know you’re making a citizens arrest before you slug them so have that sequence pre-programmed into my wetware before I go into subcortical fighting mode. Then it’s appropriate force to subdue a criminal that you’ve arrested and I’m not sure if you can also get them charged for resisting arrest if they fight back.
With the moronic prosecutors who lay these charges, perhaps there should be a web site with their home addresses and phone numbers letting criminals know they face no barriers should they decide to rob the criminal friendly prosecutors; after all they probably have insurance.
The sound of a shotgun being racked is going to stop most gremlins in their track, a verbal warning is required.
Excerpts from criminal code of Canada;
Defence of dwelling
40. Every one who is in peaceable possession of a dwelling-house, and every one lawfully assisting him or acting under his authority, is justified in using as much force as is necessary to prevent any person from forcibly breaking into or forcibly entering the dwelling-house without
lawful authority.
and
Defence of Person
Self-defence against unprovoked assault
34. (1) Every one who is unlawfully assaulted without having provoked the assault is justified in repelling force by force if the force he uses is not intended to cause death or grievous bodily harm and is no more than is necessary to enable him to defend himself.
Extent of justification
(2) Every one who is unlawfully assaulted and who causes death or grievous bodily harm in repelling the assault is justified if
(a) he causes it under reasonable apprehension of death or grievous bodily harm from the violence with which the assault was originally made or with which the assailant pursues his purposes; and
(b) he believes, on reasonable grounds, that he cannot otherwise preserve himself from death or grievous bodily harm.
You will need a good lawyer to argue reasonable grounds, but a sworn statement that the intruder reached for an object that you thought was a gun and threatened you verbally with death ought to be sufficient.
I am not a lawyer, so get your own advice.
That’s all very nice, Cascadian, but how do you get the Police, Prosecutor and Court to uphold the Law. They are just making it up as they go along if they arrest you and charge you in the first place; aren’t they?
Unfortunately, shooting and wounding a burglar is an inevitable death sentence for you in Canada.
They break in, you shoot them to wound, they recover, and then tell the court that you lured them into the house to shoot them. They win you lose.
Any burglar entering your home is a lethal threat, by their very action alone. The only choice is to defend lethally and risk the inevitable Liberal justice system, or risk the perpetrator non-lethally and again Liberal justice system if should you survive.
“I’d rather be judged by twelve than carried by six”.
The only solace for a family man in our judicial system given such a choice is that he sacrificed himself for the safety of his family. F*ck the suicidal Liberal pansy assed retards that have infected our society with their insanity!
gunney, knight-you have to make your own decision.
What is the safety of your family worth?
Can you rely on the police to attend in a timely fashion?
Personally, I have seen enough to convince me that the police do not have my safety as a priority. I am NOT promoting lawlessness, I am seeking a solution within the existing criminal code.
I am assuming (always very dangerous) that even a thief recognises that it is not worth potentially dying to steal some stuff and will target a less well prepared home(maybe yours).
I am not saying I have faith in the Canadian courts overrun as they are with Turdeaupian functionaries, I am saying the law as it stands states pretty clearly an owners “rights”.
Cascadian >
Meeting and shooting at various ranges with cops over the decades has giving me allot of different tips and advice over the years.
Two quotes by different RCMP officers have always stuck in my head –
#1. Our job – “We never come to assist, we come to arrest”.
#2. Home defence – “Dead men tell no tales, you will always want to be the only witness in a trial”.
I’ve heard “Dead men tell no tales” from two different cops myself.
Trouble is, you’re going to be charged with murder no matter what. For sure. You are going to go broke fighting it, and possibly suffer irreparable mental and emotional harm. Chances are good. The process is the punishment, plus there’s actual punishment too if you don’t win the financially crushing legal battle. The cost of your house and vehicles won’t begin to cover it.
If the goblins aren’t chasing you out of the house, run away and let them burn the f-er down and hope they die in the fire. It will be CHEAPER. For sure, no doubt about it.
That is where we are at in Canada right now. CPC better be listening.