Good evening ladies and gentlemen, welcome to SDA Late Nite Radio. Tonight, for your delectation and pursuant to our Tuesday night vintage music show, here is Mr. Maurice Burkhart performing The Yiddisha Professor on Edison Blue Amberol cylinder #1643 in 1913 (MP3, 3.8 MB, 4:07).
Update: Here is Vitruvius TV from 2008-10-14 20:00 to 21:30 MDT…
(The horizontal light gray line represents ΣVe/n for the last four days.)
Clearly, Prime Minister Harper’s Conservative Party of Canada
has a stronger mandate after this election than it did before.
Your Reader Tips are, as always, welcome in the comments.
The above graph shows the seat counts (declared + leading) for the various parties, as screen-scraped every minute from the National Post and CBC web sites from 20:00 to 21:30 MDT on 2008-10-14. Well, that was fun to watch grow. Note that it would appear that the Post had some troubles tonight 😉
Ve came in about two points higher than the pollsters had forecast, the opposite of the last two elections, yet the actual score came in closer to the forecast Ve than the final Ve. I’ll add the new data point and the final graphs to my Ve essay later, and think about what it means, later, but it’s been a long day for me so not now.
The price of a vote in Canada – $1.95
A 1 year political party donation – $1,100
One MP’s annual salary – $165,000
An election for nothing – $300 Million
One unelected Quebec bagman thrown out – Priceless
What can I say? Garth gone, Thibeault gone, Ujjy losing, Quebec wondering why they will have so few cabmins, Newfoundland shoots their own foot off, does it get any better than this?
I’m afraid to look at Craig Oliver. Has his head exploded yet?
Congratulations to Stephen Harper and the Conservatives.
Even with the msm against him and hoping that Dion would be the next Prime Minister, the Conservatives pulled it off.
Vit
I think you were close. Final Ve?
Syncroo
As of 9:33pm MST my prediction is only off by one seat. 🙂
CTV was just highlighting an interesting exchange with Bob Rae and Michael Ignatieff.
Bob Rae stated that although Harper had 145 seats more or less, he was “still going to have to face parliament” and hinted broadly that the Liberals, (under Rae’s leadership) would find common cause with the NDP and Bloc against the Conservatives, i.e. a coalition.
Ignatieff was on the split scree from his campaign headquarters, and the whole time Rae is speaking, rolling his eyes and looking like he smelled a rotten egg. He replied, (and now Rae was rolling his eyes) that such speculation was “Political Science Fiction” and that the Liberals had been elected as official oppostion and now needed to oppose the Conservatives “from the centre”.
Rae, it seems, would have little trouble signing on to an NDP agenda – so long as it makes him Prime Minister.
As I recall, Rae was a tory and only went to the NDP because the other parties wouldn’t let him run as a candidate. Then he moves to the libs. He’d move to the communist party if he thought it would give him a spot in the limelight.Rae may be smart, and a great speaker but it will always be “all about Bob”. If anything Bob ever did was beneficial to the electorate it would only be because of unintended coincidence.
Yes I saw parts of the Liberal featurette courtesy of CTV. It lasted far too long.Those two just love the limelight don’t they?
Prentiss was too nice to Oliver.CPAC coverage was more intelligent.
Hate to say it, but I hope PMSH has learned there is no pleasing a spoiled child…they just take and never say thank you.
Garth who?
BWAHAHAHAHA!
did anyone just catch Dion just snapping on CTV saying that CTV will be the last network he speaks with??!!!
I could do this again next week .
I love elections.
Thanks Vitruvius for your election predictor. Pretty darn close!
Andrew Coyne has again stated that the economic power of this country has moved West and the Liberal and Quebec elite, who have run this country for too long (my words), are fighting tooth and nail to maintain their control.
I hope I live to see the political power move too.
skuleman: I don’t think Rae was ever a conservative (and WIki agrees) – first a left-wing liberal then ND and now left-wing liberal again.
I light a candle every night in the hope that he becomes the party’s next leader as it will guarantee a tory majority next time around as the fiscally conservative side of the LP defects en masse to the CP.
Garth Turner: all class…
http://www.burlingtonpost.com/news/article/212617
[3rd class, that is.]
It would be interesting to find out what effect, if any, “strategic” voting had on this election. Seems to me it failed quite miserably.
Strategic voting may have worked in Edmonton Strathcona. Just supports my opinion that university students should NEVER be allowed to vote (I speak as a university student, 99 out of 100 are dumber than bricks, and I count myself in that 99 most days)
CLEARLY-
Mr. Harper wasted my time and money by not winning a majority government and not losing to Dion.
What was the point of this?????
Clearly, we need a new leader for the blue team, you can bet the red team has been looking for a new leader for some time. Hopefully the yellow and green teams don’t change leaders, I like them just the way they are.
I must admit though. I was tempted to mark an X for The Canadian Action Party. Have you seen these people (this guy)?? He’s straight out of the X-Files.
What a waste of time and money this was.
DOWN WITH HARPER !!!!!
UP WITH THE NEW BLUE LEADER…. KATE??
sL
Don’t be silly, Levin. Ten bucks it cost you for an election, an election that increased the Conservative’s mandate. That’s the cost of two beers in a pub. What, you’re a cheap-skate, already? Or, perhaps, is democracy not worth ten bucks to you?
Biggest loosers of Election 08 ? — David Suzuki and gang.
Kyoto is dead, Canada can now move on.
David who?
Congratulations Vit, great job.
For those of you who are questioning why we had to have another election… Blame Steffi. He was the one telling the CBC (or was it the CBC telling us) that “Canadians” wanted the Green Shaft.
Harper said, “Wanna bet?” and off to the polls we went to tell Steffi that we don’t.
Now, he can go back to the back bench.
I would like to see all of the Blogging Tories post an ad on their page to the MEDIA telling them they can go drown in their own tears. The bastards on CTV couldn’t contain their whining and criticizing of Harper on his win. Not a good word from any of them. They make me sick. Bastards all of them.
After Harpers speech when he was walking off the stage with his daughter and the fireworks or whatever they are went off it took Harper by surprise. Mansbridge and his ilk started laughing at Harper for being startled. I hate that Bastard Mansbridge.
We won and did better. F**k em all.
Congratulations Mr. Harper and all Conservatives.
Strategic voting worked in Vancouver Quadra, many NDP votes going to the Liberal as did the green vote
Vit:
You do good work. I enjoy your website too, it’s informative and entertaining.
As much as Craig Oliver grates me, he is brutally honest with his opinion and pulls no punches. He said Harper didn’t get his majority that he wanted and Dion turned in what was probably the worst performence by a Liberal leader.
BUURRNNN!
As much as Craig Oliver grates me, he is brutally honest with his opinion and pulls no punches. He said Harper didn’t get his majority that he wanted and Dion turned in what was probably the worst performence by a Liberal leader.
BUURRNNN!
Yea it is pretty sad Rick to see the childish way that our Canadian media treats Mr. Harper. This is a good man, a family man and a man that is out for the good of all Canadians. These CTV and CBC bastards are all self loathers, they have accomplished nothing in their sorry little lives so they try to knnock down good, didn’t quite work tonight though did it Craig and Tom and Loyd and Peter, ssuck it up Toronto pansies.
Garth Turner lost his seat. Yahoooooooooo!!!!
Agreed – the CTV, CBC, Global – all of them, their sneers and put-downs of Harper all night were quite something. I had to go on ‘mute’ for much of the time.
Their praise of Dion as ‘a good, a noble, a man of integrity’..such garbage. All I’ve heard from Dion is his constant accusations of ‘liar, liar’ against Harper. What lies?
And they have nothing – not a word – good to say about Harper. Quite remarkable how steadfast the Canadian MSM – all Liberals – are against Harper. Not one good word. Just sneers that he ‘didnt get what he wanted; he must be unhappy’.
But Harper DID get what he wanted; a strong minority. Almost a majority. And since we have that undemocratic Bloc in our system, it’s almost impossible to get a majority now in Canada.
And, Harper won this election for the Conservatives. Not as a reaction of the electorate to the Liberal corrupt Sponsorship (2006) but FOR the Conservatives and their policies and FOR Harper. That’s quite something. No-one in the MSM mentioned that, of course.
Harper’s victory speech was excellent and I’ve rarely seen him so happy.
And what a loss for the Liberals.
As for Quebec, which has its own private default party – my suggestion is – forget Quebec. Stop pandering to it; stop trying to get Quebecers to move from their Natural Governing Party, which we allowed them to have..They won’t. Quebecers don’t see themselves as part of Canada, which they see as a foreign country. Stop pandering to Quebec. Ignore them, and focus on the West and Ontario.
Thanks for your daily updates, vitruvius.
And lots of tv head honchos lost their senate seats. How can one be a loser when they gain several seats and losing 20 seats is ok. And did you catch a ctv guy blaming dion’s fall from grace on the attack ads etc. Never mentioned the attacks the media did on Harper.
And, the first question to Donna Cadman was about the so called bribe and how could she run as a conservative and not an independant. Answer, no comment it is before the courts, I have faith in Stephen Harper.
Kate, It’s gonna be close but if I win the seat projection forget the Ezra donation. I don’t visit enough to realize that you had your own legal fund, send the money here 😀
M. Dion is about to discover that he has no freinds, particularly in the media that did their best to prop him up for the last 3 years.
He is about to discover just how sharp the medias knives can be when Lib HQ gives the order to dump him.
Hopefully he digs in as hard as Paul Martin did.
I suspect that strategic voting was sold by the Liberals as a trade but they only took from the NDP and Green, they didn’t give back — the usual Liberal duplicity even in this scheme.
Figures!
Dion can expect to find the locks to his offices changed, and they are off to their next leadership convention — it has to be Ignatieff, Rae maxed out last time and he’s still a dipper, Justin needs ten years of experience by which time the antidote should be perfected, and who else is there? (besides the usual seven guaranteed losers).
Harper has about two years to broaden his appeal, he is the mother of all incrementalists but is there another increment around the next bend?
Never mind, Obama’s universal reign of peace and love will be into its critical stages by then.
A comment and a question:
What most pundits failed to fully appreciate is that until the Bloc Quebecois is removed or diminished, it’s almost impossible for a political party to win a majority in this country. Instead, I kept hearing about the “collective wisdom” of the Canadian voters. What a huge pile of rubbish. It’s amazing to me how some people invent wildly preposterous theories to explain something when the truth is sitting right in front of them. Such is almost always the case with the liberal mind!
Now a question: If Stephen Harper just chooses to run his gov’t like a majority, bringing strict law & order bills, etc. in front of Parliament, will the Liberals have the balls to defeat these bills, knowing that it’ll immediately force another election?
I think not but would love to have someone provide a counterpoint.
I’ve got some good news and some bad news.First the bad news.
Trudeau is in and
Dion is gone!
go figure
Jason Cherniak says he is going to quit blogging, apparently it is bad for his career. Garth has gone on hiatus. Liberals sure are poor losers.
Congratulations to Bob Dechert, newly elected CPC MP in Mississauga-Erindale. The third time was a charm. Really too bad he didn’t beat Carolyn Parrish in 2004, but better late than never.
Posted on Sunday Oct.5th,2008 (actual results in brackets)
Atlantic Canada-9(10)/31 seats. 1(0)NL, 2(3)NS, 5(6)NB, 1 PEI
NWT, Yukon, Nunavit(1)- 1/3 seats
QUE- 14(10)/75 seats
ON- 51(51)/105 seats
Prairies- 48(49)/56 seats
BC- 23(22)/36 seats
Majority 155/308
CPC- 146/308 38% (37.6)
LPC- 64/308 28% (26.2)
NDP- 48/308 19% (18.2)
Bloc- 49/309 9% (10)
Ind- 1/308 0.1% (.6)
Green- 0/308 6% (6.8)
My final was this (I didn’t get to post the entry for the contest):
142 CPC
70 LPC
46 NDP
48 BLOC
2 Independent (Bill Casey NS, Arthur Andre QUE)
0 Greens
Anyways I had the CPC @ 158 seats on the day writ was dropped and as high as 161 seats during the first week. The rest is history.
Thanks for playing along.
Sorry I screwd that up.
143 CPC
76 LPC
37 NDP
50 Bloc
2 IND (Casey & Andre)
anyone have the video of dion telling roger smith off?
It’s too late, the numbers above are the official standings of the parties and should have been in brackets in my first post.
So was the site busy last night Kate? LOL
They’re still showing Conservatives and bloc going back and forth one seat on cpac.
I missed by a kilo meter anyway.
Listening to Gilles Duceppe bragging about “winning a majority”, you’d think he was the prime minister or winner somewhere?
This clown should be in a rubber room with a plastic frog to keep him company.
The court jester went out and got a job as a politician.
The story to me tonight was how loudly the West spoke. The popular vote for the Libs in every one of the four western provinces was in the teens. In seat count, the Libs lost 71 to 7 to the Cons. Wow!!!
Consider, that even if we were to flip tonight’s results in Ontario in favour of the Libs, the Cons still win the election by 40 seats.
Hip! Hip! Hooray for the West. From someone trapped in the 416 Lib/NDP la la land, thank you!!!!!!
EVERYONE has got to watch this.
Starting at 3:24 and going about 15 seconds, see Dion being an arrogant sore-loser.
What a disappointed child.
Hooray for the west too but what if “stupid” as I call him and have in a letter when he was LOO had actually campaigned in Ontario instead of wasting his and our time in Quebec? “Stupid” as I called him and still do, would likely have a majority instead of looking like another Joe Clarke with a little muscle on his biceps?
Their opposition was pathetic at very best if you include Gilles Duceppe and should been flattened.
You cannot please Quebec and English Canada at the same time. English Canada likes law and order, Quebec seems to prefer their province be run by biker gangs,killing the CBC would go well in English Canada but try an kill Radio Canada and you would have a revolt. So it would be hard for a party to get a majority these days.