55 Replies to “Social Justice 12”

  1. And so we see the progression of progressive ideology.
    From cries of victimization and mistreatment at the hands of society we progressed to demands for acceptance followed by institutionalized marginalization and demonzing of those who question and bringing us into an era of enforced indoctrination.
    What progress!

  2. This was a course that came about because of a complaint to the BCHRC. As part of the punishment as a result of two homo’s the government was FORCED to add this course to theri curriculum. BUT, it had to be offered as an optional course so parents could opt out. Well, looks like the Abbotsford school district has decided to “opt out” of only parts of it. Probably because of an oversight on the part of human rights OR government officials. Surprise, Surprise.(This reminds me of a saying Raif Mair-local radio celebrity-had which was that “we make a big mistake in thinking that government officials actually know what they are doing)
    Incidently Abbotsford B.C., and adjoing areas where I live, are VERY conservative and still cling to out dated, neandetrhal Christian values AND vote conservative, of course.
    Horny Toad

  5. I’ve spent my time in the “educational” trenches while my daughters were in the public system. I’m glad they’re past this stage now, and that I–and they–don’t have to be exposed to this crap anymore. I made sure they didn’t become indoctrinated because I knew what was going on.
    One of the really big problems “out there” is that parents are often in a time warp. They assume that what their kids are learning is the same stuff they learned a long time ago.
    Educational (sic) curriculums are changing every year, most to include the “equality,” “open,” and “tolerant” crap we see in this curriculum, which really means tramping all over common-sense Canadians’ sensibilities and realities. It’s all about minority values and rights trumping those of the majority.
    Parent’s need to be very vigilant and speak out. Sadly, most of them aren’t and don’t. This curriculum is the result–and curriculums like it are everywhere across Canada.

  6. From what I understand, Placard Punctuation 101 and Demonstration 123 are co-requisites to Social Justice 12.
    Nothing like molding a new generation of guilt ridden youth trying to right all the “wrongs” of previous generations.

  8. Social justice -> we consume more than our fair share of the world’s resources and this is unfair. We need to cut back and share with the not so fortunate.
    Guess this means we shut down most of our hospitals.
    Wouldn’t want to use more than our fair share of medical resources.

  9. I think it is kind of ironic that the course is attempting to teach students about becomming an active citizen in order to change what you dislike in government, and when active citizens protest the course (something they dislike in the government) it is seen as some sort of problem …
    Personally, I think there are elements of the spirit of this course that people would agree with but I think that they would be better met by teaching civics in school (and maybe people whould understand what federal responsibilities are)

  10. The meaning of a word, such as “justice” is turned completely on its head when it is modified by the adjective “social”. It implies redistribution, or confiscation of either wealth or values.
    “The most complete rejection of the concept of social justice comes from the Friedrich Hayek of the Austrian School of economics: ‘The phrase ‘social justice’ is … simply ‘a semantic fraud from the same stable as People’s Democracy’.'[9] The purported goal of social justice is to eliminate economic inequities, but because these inequities are largely a result of individuals’ own choices, they can only be corrected by controlling said choices.”
    http://www.answers.com/topic/social-justice

  11. My take on this social justice indoctrination is … that it is important to know we much all stand up or perhaps bend over to support the right of gay men to perform sodomy and have freakish parades that boggle the normal mind. And that they all have a a good government job if their interior design biz fails.
    It is also important that gay women all have good government jobs where they are fully protected from men. And that there are retail outlets supplying bizarre books along with rubber and plastic products that they can jam into each other various orifices while shouting the name of a deity that they don’t believe in.
    It is important that no one in society should suffer the indignity of having to work if the work place is in any way stressful or demanding.
    It is important to know that if you don’t agree with a conservative government, that arranging a coup or out-right violent revolt is perfectly normal and okay.
    It is important to know the choosing a life of drug dependence is actually not a choice, but disease. That those diseased users can walk freely among the population so they can pan handle or steal as needed to get the drugs even though the disease is 100% curable and preventable. Just say no to the drugs. Try just saying no to cancer or diabetes those are real diseases.
    That is the what I see coming from these educational departments that is called social justice.
    I grew up in a better time where social justice meant you hang murderers, jail thieves and make people work for their living. And drug dealers …. well their weren’t any drug dealer until after the 60s. And gay people kept their weirdness in the closet so as not to freak out the kids.
    This progressive horse-shit just makes me crazy.

  13. Political activism has no place in state-funded organizations.
    In fact, it should be illegal. It isn’t the state’s job to indocrinate children with socialist propaganda.
    The people responsible for this should all be shown the unemployment line. That includes the board, teachers, politicians, HRC hacks, etc.

  14. When I attended high school in real communist country,the subject was called Citizenship Education. Nobody took the theory seriously,the best part was practical – at the range with .22 and 9mm.

  15. They must have been trying to cram too much material into their pseudo-environmentalism course and had to split the content into another. Its all so much easier than trying to teach the 3 Rs. The teachers can come into class after their twice-daily briefing from the Party apparatchiks oops, I mean union reps in the coffee room – saves class prep time.

  16. Geez…what the hell happened to teaching the 3 R’s, with very clear cut objectives?
    Oh that’s right…we wouldn’t want to trample on anyone’s “self-esteem” now, would we?
    Good catch in that column BTW. It hadn’t occurred to be to wonder how they would grade a course such as that one.
    The BCTF? Fire.them.all.

  17. Nonsense like this will continue the trend of parents seeking alternative education like homeschooling, faith based and private schools.
    Then, in the future, there will be an acceleration of our two tier society. There will be those kids who absorb the new public school curriculum and become social justice crusaders employed in bureaucracy, politics, journalism, education, welfare recipients and the various taxpayer funded groups who incessantly advocate for more money. Then there will be those who reject the message and become productive members of society whose income (via taxes) will be used to fund the preceding groups.
    I wonder how long it will take for the freeloaders to finally overwhelm the productive class?

  18. felis corpulentis, yeah that’s the money quote (Hayek, the fraud of “social justice”).
    Here’s something I just came across which seems to get to the core:
    When a civilization begins to unravel, the first action is always internal.
    It is hidden, spiritual, and unobserved by the public. Brazilian philosopher Olavo de Carvalho recently pointed out that Western Civilization has produced more “educated” people than we have positions for. In fact, we’ve educated them beyond their intelligence, giving them tools too advanced for their character, putting a simple life of contented drudgery out of their reach. In other words, we’ve mass-produced a horde of impotent wits, angry because their princely education cannot produce for them a princely sum or a kingdom.
    from: The West Comes Unraveled by J. R. Nyquist, Weekly column Published: 08.22.2008
    Agree. Political indoctrination has NO place in the public school system.
    Have we read Stanley’s Kurtz’s work about what Ayers-Obama were up to in the Chicago Annenberg Challenge? They wasted $100 million “improving” education and no measureable improvements were detected. All hard-left radical indoctrination. Notwithstanding the warm and fuzzy lingo, a curriculum of self hate, country and cultural shame.
    Criminal. Child abuse.

  19. Warwick: “Political activism has no place in state-funded organizations.”
    That’s for sure, because it’s always going to be partisan: You have to agree with US, but it’s OK to protest against THE OTHER GUYS, in this case C/conservatives.
    The place for political activism is in the home. If your family disagrees with something, then it’s OK for each family to make its own, individual choice as to what party/organization/institution they wish to either support or protest against.
    Schools should not be encouraging civil dissent or disobedience. All they need to do, is teach history–not “herstory” or “global development and understanding”–where students will see every type of dissent throughout history and will make their own minds up about how they will contribute to a civil and democratic society.
    If the lack of civility and manners on the part of the students I see on Toronto’s downtown streets is an indication of what they’re teaching in schools today, I’d say that the curriculum they’re using is a total failure. They seem to have no boundaries and are completely oblivious to the fact that other people have a right to walk on the same sidewalks as them. Social justice seems to mean to them “justice for me, none for thee.”

  20. A large component of the problem here is a failure of parenting.
    When parents were truly attentive to their children, this kind of thing was unheard of in our schools–like when I was growing up. This nonsense wouldn’t slip through the cracks like it does today.
    Which parents actually know what their kids are learning in the classroom? When I pointed out to other parents what was happening, say, in our children’s grade 5/6 sex-ed curriculum–very explicit stuff, taught with no moral values attached–a) most parents had no idea and b) too many of them didn’t seem to care, even when told about the alarming escalation of the incidence of STDs in the teen population.
    Failure in parenting is a taboo subject in Canada, because we don’t want the adults, the moms and the dads, to feel guilty. Never mind that too many of them are neglecting their children.
    Quel pays!

  21. And that, my friends, is why my wife and I have committed to fork out thousands of after-tax dollars per year for private school now. If necessary, we’ll go to home-schooling in the future.
    The State will not be forcing this shyte on my kids. I will forgo luxuries and scrimp every penny to ensure my children are not indoctrinated with the ideals and (a)morality of the Left.

  22. Liberalism is the ideology of Western suicide. For liberals, having been thrown down upon the surface of the earth without purpose or explanation, is resulting in ever more bizarre theories, attachments and rages. Without a fund of religious or ethnic identity to draw upon, their search for meaning becomes ever more resentful, desperate, dictatorial and destructive. We’re witnesses to extreme cultural degeneration now.
    Canada is one sick country.
    Incidentally, the Liberal government of BC didn’t have to implement this; it was a voluntary settlement before it went to HRC hearing. Our conceited attorney general, Wally Oppal, is largely responsible.

  23. marvell: “Without a fund of religious or ethnic identity to draw upon, their search for meaning becomes ever more resentful, desperate, dictatorial and destructive. We’re witnesses to extreme cultural degeneration now.”
    BINGO.

  24. JohnV…I went to check my e-mail at yahoo,two top stories:Lindsay Lohan admits she’s dating female disc-jockey,Clay Aitkin comes out of the closet.Wouldn’t have been able to sleep tonight hadn’t I had known this.

  25. So go off as a ginned-up, half-cocked angry mob. Do a bit of burning and looting and call it “social justice”. What’s next, “street justice and lynching 101”? If not, why not?

  28. One of the “achievement indicators” in this course is for the student to “demonstrate an understanding of the need to undertake informed action while at the same time not necessarily waiting until having “all the information””.
    How does one undertake informed action without having information? I better take this course to find out. I am burning with curiosity. Maybe the sequel to this course is Untying Gordian Knots 202.
    Back in college, though, I took Logic 101. Does this disqualify me from taking the course?

  29. One of the “achievement indicators” in this course is for the student to “demonstrate an understanding of the need to undertake informed action while at the same time not necessarily waiting until having “all the information””.
    How does one undertake informed action without having information? I better take this course to find out. I am burning with curiosity. Maybe the sequel to this course is Untying Gordian Knots 202.
    Back in college, though, I took Logic 101. Does this disqualify me from taking the course?

  30. Even the term “social justice” is just another code name for the collectivist welfare nanny state. The same goes for terms such as rent control, gun control, price control. Control is the key. What better way to facilitate control than the indoctrination of children.
    Let us not forget who brought this concept of social justice to Canada. It was Trudeau for those who remember.

  31. ‘This was a course that came about because of a complaint to the BCHRC. As part of the punishment as a result of two homo’s the government was FORCED to add this course to theri curriculum. BUT, it had to be offered as an optional course so parents could opt out’
    This was not forced on the Gordon Campbell British Columbia Liberal government, they chose to make a quiet backroom deal with the Correns to avoid a ruling by the BCHRC. No one found out until after all of the paperwork was signed – typical for Gordon.
    Introduction
    On 28 April, 2006, the Ministry of Education signed a private agreement
    with two homosexual activists, Peter and Murray Corren. The agreement,
    which can ultimately be enforced by the Supreme Court, was signed secretly
    and, by common consent, kept secret for over a month after it was signed,
    probably because the parties believed that it would be controversial.
    Subsequent developments seem to have confirmed this. In the eight months
    from April to the end of November, 2006, the Ministry of Education
    accumulated about 8,500 pages of documents relating to the agreement,
    including 1,000 pages of petitions and about 5,000 pages of correspondence
    to and from individuals or groups.
    The agreement ended an action before the BC Human Rights Commission
    initiated by the Correns in January, 1999, to try to force the Ministry of
    Education to introduce pro-homosexual curriculum into the public school
    system. Over the next seven years the case had been delayed for a number of
    reasons. It came to public attention by the summer of 2005 and was
    scheduled for a hearing in July, 2006 when the government settled on terms
    acceptable to the Correns.

  32. lynnh: “I wonder how long it will take for the freeloaders to finally overwhelm the productive class?”
    lynn, I think it’s already happening. All of us in the productive class–who, BTW, are receiving no government subsidies or benefits–are supporting way too many government-paid and -subsidized freeloaders.
    In another thread, I’ve pointed out National Newswatch’s SEVEN links to nasty Stephen Harper’s cutting monetary support to SOME, unproductive artists’ programs. The tears and rage are copious.
    Me No Dhimmi: “Child abuse.” You’re right. And it’s allowed to happen because parents have abdicated their responsibilities. Most have no idea what’s going on in their kids’ classrooms, and think it’s the same stuff as when they were in school. Most parents are in a time warp, and just aren’t being attentive. Parental failure, parental neglect are why schools/boards are able to get away with this kind of crap.

  33. Man i hate fags and faggets.
    Man i hate indians.
    Man i hate fat people.
    Man i hate druggies.
    Man i hate lefties.
    Man i hate lazy people.
    Man i hate gamblers.
    Man i hate obama.
    Guys i dont want to scare you but were running out of people to hate.

  35. Wouldn’t it be nice if people had to live in the society that they say they want.
    Progressives: Live in neighborhoods next to Insite centers, half-way houses, public-only progressive school, green due to no industry etc.. Be forced to walk over to their neighbors houses and directly hand over a big chunk of their wages in order to keep the tax receivers living in the style to which they have become accustomed. I mean, to make sure everything is equal, no workers would be allowed to keep more than the median income of the neighborhood. That would truly be social justice in action.
    Conservatives: Live in neighborhoods with few criminals, lots of productive workers, industry, personal responsibility, education focused schools etc. At worst, you might have the occasional religious door knocker.

  36. “Dumbing down society. Don’t worry folk these are the future leaders when we are old.”
    Merle
    We can’t blame the students for the curriculum, this responsibility falls on the Boomer generation and their appeasement. It is up to gen X and Y, and the rest to clean up the mess. Hopefully they have the tools they require to accomplish this task; but, I think that was your point.

  37. When I first read that a SJ course was being taught, I was kind of happy, but it appears this isn’t exactly what I had in mind…I believe that schools should definitely have a course promoting awareness of the world, it’s plight, it’s intolerance, and its poverty, but it seems this course has a particular agenda to push with regards to our domestic society rather than an international one.
    However, this _is_ an elective, so if the lefties want to take a course that makes them feel angry about the injustices that their rich white family is perpetrating on others, then by all means, why not.
    I just would really like to see schools taking an active role in poverty issues that exist globally rather than seemingly BS classes like this one. And by poverty I don’t mean throw money at sponsor children, I mean raising money for a well, livestock, or farm implements for developing nations.

  38. Good one batb. I think that there has to be social reform in Canada. I only talk in of Canada since I live in Canada. We have bended as people to far not to have consequences when we put the kids out of the house, supported all thru their life and into the work force. They have a lot of decisions to make and hopefully they make the right ones. In life you have to have the basics, that is: Reading&Writing [comprehension of what you are reading and to converse], Math [it is a very important part of every day use]. We have young people getting out of high school that can not even add up to 100. [my niece is one of them]. They got taught Liberalism as a main course, where objective was to express their opinion, because no opinion is wrong. As they came out in work force I would have to train them. That is the most frustrating part of the job, people whom should have known the basics could not even comprehend the most simplest tasks. I would dare venture on the first three tries 75% of them got sent home by being fired.

  39. Morningstar, I bet you have a point.
    Unfortunately not entirely clear to me, at least.
    Personally, I don’t hate anyone. I do, however, get a bit pissed off at those who believe that “society” owes them a living.
    If we want social justice, it should be for all. I should not have to support victimization, entitlement and resentment. It seems to me that these are the policies that control Canadian society today

  40. Morningstar, I bet you have a point.
    Unfortunately not entirely clear to me, at least.
    Personally, I don’t hate anyone. I do, however, get a bit pissed off at those who believe that “society” owes them a living.
    If we want social justice, it should be for all. I should not have to support victimization, entitlement and resentment. It seems to me that these are the policies that control Canadian society today

  44. I made a vow to myself years ago that I would never let my kids become tools of the state and I have gone to war with more than one teacher because of it. Parents should push back hard on this kind of totalitarian BS. “Social justice” is nothing but a code word for radical left wing lunacy.

  45. Lynnh 4:37
    My feelings exactly, as a matter of fact why not take BC, Alberta and Sask. and do just that. Ship them all the hell east, we can even pay their way with all that evil oil money they so despise.

  46. Social Justice. Yeah, we have had that for 40 years, with PETS Just Society altar boy’s running things after him. Look how it worked out!
    What is really meant of course is not Justice but complete bias if not infallibility to any group deemed victims or minorities. Particularly criminals or con men.
    Justice does not mean being able to smoke a joint in front of a eatery. True Justice is having a fair trial or having meaningful restitution or punishment for the malefactor. Not unequivocally phony rehabilitation by government guidelines with mandatory years peeled off not for good behavior but by rotten laws.
    Justice means having the truth held in esteem not treated like an infection.
    JMO

  47. Yo, morningstar, while there is certainly some animosity toward gays among the right, it cannot hold a candle to the murderous rage gays have toward conservatives.
    Let’s stop talking about how “homophobic” righties are for a moment, and ask a fair question: why do gays have a hatred toward conservatives that eclipses any hatred I have ever seen, heard, or read of? Why is that? The most conservative Canadian white male, we all know, is a flaaaaaaaaming homo by Somali, or Jamaican, or Korean standards. Why don’t you spread a little hate their way? They hate you orders of magnitude more than we ever hated you.
    And as they form a greater percentage of the population, as the (overwhelmingly white, let’s remember) gay community becomes more oppressed by immigrants from the most viciously anti-gay countries imaginable, you’ll finally realize how good you had it.
    Thus ends today’s lecture on social justice. For further reading and actual statistics verifying my claims that the gay community has an irrational and unequaled hatred for conservatives, check out http://www.nationalpost.com/todays_paper/story.html?id=780579. Some highlights:

    “A study conducted by the Laurier Institute for the Study of Public Opinion and Policy (LISPOP) found just 7.3% of homosexual men and 10.4% of gay women supported the Conservatives in the 2006 election. By comparison, 40.7% of straight men and 32.4% of straight women voted for the Conservatives.

    “Clearly, they are anti-Conservative,” said Barry Kay, a professor at Wilfrid Laurier University and LISPOP researcher. “The hostility there is dramatic … these are numbers that are worse than the NDP gets in much of the country.”
    That’s a left wing professor talking, it should be noted.

    The report also found that nearly 40% of gay voters cited morality issues such as same-sex marriage as well as abortion as their top concern in the last election, compared with less than 10% of the straight population.

    Proof that gays vote largely based on a selfish, narrow agenda, and don’t care about genuinely important issues like taxes, national defense, or health care that affect all Canadians. An unfortunate consequence of this is that gays are now giving hets a legitimate reason to harbour animosity toward them. Raise my taxes, introduce a carbon tax, propose radical policies that assume Canadians are sexistracisthomophobicetc., and restrict my speech? Don’t be surprised if I and other Canadians have a problem with that. And be original, for heaven’s sake. In the vernacular: Dahling, your act is boring and cliche. You’re not surprising, or entertaining, or informing anyone, girlfriend, when you go Mallick at the first mention of Stephen Harper or anything conservative.

  48. “Ship them all the hell east, we can even pay their way with all that evil oil money they so despise.
    Posted by: Western Canadian at September 24, 2008 6:54 PM ”
    WC…..while I agree 100% with the sentiment….I say screw em. Make the bas$%&ds/beyotchs walk!!! That way they will only be spewing the minimum CO2,and won’t be hurting Mother Gaia.

  49. “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
    -C. S. Lewis
    English essayist (1898 – 1963)

  50. And when the pendulum has swung fully back shall we have the prescience and the wisdom to not do what we rightfully accuse the left of doing?
    Shall we insist that our orthodoxies be preached and taught as absolute truth or shall we allow dissenting opinion?
    Personally I am much more comfortable with the ‘right’ point of view but I also recognize that left and right are but two sides of the same coin.

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