45 Replies to “Previously Unpublished”

  6. Happy ‘toons to Allah, Mohammed.
    Sandmonkey summarizes the plot: Concludes that the Arab world is retarded. +
    Guess we will have to Boycott Egypt now as well, huh?
    Now while the arab islamic population was going crazy over the outrage created by their government’s media over these cartoons, their governments was benifitting from its people’s distraction. The Saudi royal Family used it to distract its people from the outrage over the Hajj stampede. The Jordanian government used it to distract its people from their new minimum wage law demanded by their labor unions. The Syrian Government used it to create secterian division in Lebanon and change the focus on the Harriri murder. And, finally, the Egyptian government is using it to distract us while it passes through the new Judiciary reforms and Social Security Bill- which will cut over $300 million dollars in benefits to some of Egypt’s poorest families. But, see, the people were not paying attention, because they were too busy defending the prophet by sending out millions of e-mails and SMS-messages, boycotting cheese and Lego and burning Butter and the danish Flag. Let’s not even mention the idiots who went the usual route of “It’s a jewish conspiracy”, spouted the stupid argument about the Holocaust, or went on a diatribe with the old favorite “There is an organized campaign-headed by the west and the jews- to attack and discredit Islam, and we have to defend it”. They proved, once again, that the arab world is retarded and deserves no better than its leaders.
    Whatever…
    posted by The Sandmonkey @
    http://egyptiansandmonkey.blogspot.com/2006/02/boycott-egypt.html

  7. At 8:26 AM, Anonymous said…
    Hum, “equating religion with hate…” It would seem Arab political and religious leaders (little or no separation here) have their own agendas. They begin this process on their children at a very early and continue it throughout their lives. Take it from an Arab Muslim. What’s happening now aint no accident…
    Subject: Daughter of a “Martyr” in Today’s The Sunday Telegraph in the U.K.
    Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 15:14:38 -0600
    We were brought up to hate- and we do
    By Nonie Darwish
    The controversy regarding the Danish cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed completely misses the point. Of course, the cartoons are offensive to Muslims, but newspaper cartoons do not warrant the burning of buildings and the killing of innocent people. The cartoons did not cause the disease of hate that we are seeing in the Muslim world on our television screens at night – they are only a symptom of a far greater disease.
    I was born and raised as a Muslim in Cairo, Egypt and in the Gaza Strip. In the 1950s, my father was sent by Egypt’s President, Gamal Abdel Nasser, to head the Egyptian military intelligence in Gaza and the Sinai where he founded the Palestinian Fedayeen, or “armed resistance”. They made cross-border attacks into Israel, killing 400 Israelis and wounding more than 900 others.
    My father was killed as a result of the Fedayeen operations when I was eight years old. He was hailed by Nasser as a national hero and was considered a shaheed, or martyr. In his speech announcing the nationalisation of the Suez Canal, Nasser vowed that all of Egypt would take revenge for my father’s death. My siblings and I were asked by Nasser: “Which one of you will avenge your father’s death by killing Jews?” We looked at each other speechless, unable to answer.
    In school in Gaza, I learned hate, vengeance and retaliation. Peace was never an option, as it was considered a sign of defeat and weakness. At school we sang songs with verses calling Jews “dogs” (in Arab culture, dogs are considered unclean).
    Criticism and questioning were forbidden. When I did either of these, I was told: “Muslims cannot love the enemies of God, and those who do will get no mercy in hell.” As a young woman, I visited a Christian friend in Cairo during Friday prayers, and we both heard the verbal attacks on Christians and Jews from the loudspeakers outside the mosque. They said: “May God destroy the infidels and the Jews, the enemies of God. We are not to befriend them or make treaties with them.” We heard worshippers respond “Amen”.
    My friend looked scared; I was ashamed. That was when I first realised that something was very wrong in the way my religion was taught and practised.
    Sadly, the way I was raised was not unique. Hundreds of millions of other Muslims also have been raised with the same hatred of the West and Israel as a way to distract from the failings of their leaders. Things have not changed since I was a little girl in the 1950s. + more..
    http://egyptiansandmonkey.blogspot.com/2006/02/boycott-egypt.html

  9. pretty ugly items from Chriscam…when i was was stationed in the Golan Heights,i was witness to some very awful scenes of torture…torture is by no means an end unto itself..there is the unspoken message of fear..for others to remember the deed and act accordingly..disgusting..

  10. I hear a lot of talk from the right about the horrors of torture perpetuated by people other than themselves. The funny thing is I never heard this talk before they got implicated in torture themselves. Is this just a coincedence?

  11. Emear of Dubai tortures Kofi UN: $US cash up front into Kofi’s claws: label the cash a “Prize”, environmental prize, that is; surprise: clears their conscience, if its present. Where is M. Strong, BTW? … more at instapundit:
    February 18, 2006
    MORE colossal Kofi conflicts: “Kofi Annan has learned nothing from the U.N.’s Oil-for-Food scandal, in which Saddam Hussein’s billions corrupted the U.N.’s entire Iraq embargo bureaucracy. Earlier this month, Annan accepted from the ruler of Dubai an environmental prize of $500,000–a fat sum that represents the latest in a long series of glaring conflicts of interest. Call this one Cash-for-Kofi.”
    Note to Condi: Why don’t we give this sort of outright bribery a try? It seems to be all the rage.

  12. The Cox & Forkum cartoon is brutally accurate. The same media who won’t print innocuous political cartoons in the avowed name of protecting troops overseas have no qualms about displaying three year old photos which are certain to cause them grief. It’s so far beyond hypocritical, it’s spiritually septic.
    I don’t know if any commenters here have watched “The National” lately, but it’s been pure anti-American screed. Why do they seem to never report on the ongoing human rights abuses in China, or on the behaviour of Islamic militants in Thailand, the Phillipines and Indonesia?
    I wish Tony Burman would explain to Canadians why such ongoing tragedies don’t get coverage. Why is harm defined as any action taken by America? Why is the brutal treatment of journalists in Egypt, Russia, Morocco, etc. not newsworthy? Why does a hunting accident get full-ahead treatment as a sign of how corrupt Republicans are?

  13. EBD-
    I haven’t heard of any protests in the muslim world over the Abu Gharab photos. They’re angry because one of their countries has been invaded and upwards of a 100,000 of their number have been killed in the process. They’re not angry because a bunch of touchy feely western liberals told them to be angry.
    But I agree with you about the hunting trip. That’s partisan politics for you. It’s all about scoring points against your political enemies by whatever means necessary.
    The left doesn’t have a monopoly on this silliness. Republicans went nuclear over Clinton getting a blowjob knowing full well that extra marital affairs among politicos are sixpence to the dozen.

  15. The left doesn’t have a monopoly on silliness, that’s for sure. It’s probably an even split, depending on what you’re looking at. As for myself, I like to define people who are silly as being leftists, and to pretend the ones on the right don’t exist. Because I know the left is wrong, or at least, they’re sillier. Huzzzah!
    BTW, I’m not sure what you mean when you say, in reference (I think) to the photos, that the Muslim world is angry because one of their countries has been invaded. I agree that that’s another one of the reasons, but are you saying that the cartoon riots were really about the invasion of Iraq or the occupation of Palestine? That if the west pulled out, they’d give the fat Danish kid his pencils back?

  16. EBD-
    By invasion I was referring specifically to Iraq. Its complex and I don’t claim to be omniscient on matters of Muslim opinion but its probably not a coincidence that since 2003 terrorist recruitment has skyrocketed.
    During the Bush-Kerry election Al Qaeda members in Iraq confided with journalists that they were rooting for Bush saying that he was “good for us”. I wonder if the video Osama released during that election wasn’t an effort to boost Bush. The last thing that man wants is a de-escalation of conflict between muslims and christians.
    Kate- “If it was only a Republican attack on his sex life, why was Clinton disbarred?”
    Because those republicans sicked an out of control special prosecutor on him who was determined and ruthless enough to make recieving head a crime.

  17. EBD “That if the west pulled out, they’d give the fat Danish kid his pencils back?”
    I forgot to answer your main question. I don’t think pulling out of Iraq now will make any difference at this stage. Cultures tend to stay steamed over things like this for decades.
    Following through with the promise of making Iraq the glittering jewel of the middle east wouldn’t hurt though. But what are the chances of that happening?
    And just for the record while I think the Iraq war was a very, very stupid move I don’t think the US should withdraw. I was angry about Spain’s participation in the war but just as angry when they pulled out. The coalition of the willing made a lot of promises and they shouldn’t be abandoning them just because its become inconvienent.

  19. Jose: He committed perjury which is an extremely serious offence, doubly so for a president whose principal job is to uphold the law. Doesn’t matter how fair or unfair the prosecution. And for the record, this was a bit more serious than a hum-drum after hours sexual affair. It occurred in the oral, er oval office. Extremely demeaning to the office of the president of the free world (if you excuse the corny phrase). As Mark Steyn put, he’s a high-end lounge act, Clinton. Likeable tho, damn it.
    Why do Iraqis seem less angry than yourself vis a vis the “invasion” which was really a liberation (if you’ll excuse the corny phrase)? Haven’t the polls in Iraq revealed high levels of optimism about the future. Where did you get the 100,000 figure and why not mention the 300,000 found is mass graves? which means even if your figure is correct, we’re up 200K on the deal.

  20. Jose, I agree that pulling out of Iraq wouldn’t calm down the uber-Islamists. That’s why I’ve never accepted the argument (never saw you make it, btw) that allowing them to vet our newspapers will reduce the inflammation.
    You’re right that Al Qaeda would prefer a Republican administration, for the reasons you suggested. In the case of the cartoon riots, for example, having Bush in power helps them make the case that such encroaching actions as they are taking in Europe against press freedoms are part of a greater struggle.
    But IMHO that’s no reason for anyone to vote Democrat, or to back up in the face of encroachment by violent Islamists.

  21. CNN’s deal with Saddam Hussein – giving CNN ‘exclusives’ from Iraq before 2003 – sums up their credibility quite well. And that credibility is right up there considering Saddam is practically a martyr for the liberal cause these days, liberals love foreign fascists and are apparently only too willing to appease their tender sensibilities.
    If black groups burned down a few CNN offices in Atlanta would their policy still be appeasement in that case? If rednecks burned down their offices would appeasement apply to them too? How about if the Klu Klux Klan burned down CNN’s offices – appeasement still?
    Perhaps CNN should do the right thing and just shut itself down so it can’t possibly offend?

  22. me no dhimmi- “Where did you get the 100,000 figure”
    The exact figure is disputed. When I said upwards of 100,000 I meant it in terms of “up to” since that’s the upper range of estimates. I wouldn’t presume to know what the exact figure is.
    As to Saddam’s mass graves I don’t mention them because we were talking about perceptions in the muslim world. And that perception is that the United States isn’t spending hundreds of billions of dollars on a humanitarian mission for a nation of people they despise anyways. Only the western right believe that spin.
    “He committed perjury which is an extremely serious offence, doubly so for a president whose principal job is to uphold the law.”
    He lied about a blow job. It was the right that chose to make it serious. A highly hypocritical move since just prior to blowjobgate they went to the matt to defend Senator Packwood over a raft of sexual harrasment charges made by women who didn’t want to give him a blowjob.
    “Why do Iraqis seem less angry than yourself vis a vis the “invasion”
    When a US servicemen is killed in Iraq I’m saddened, whereas many of them break out in spotaneous celebration. Who do you think is more pissed off?
    That’s not to say that many Iraqis aren’t happy. These are heady days for the Badr brigade and the Peshmerga. Its payback time for them. Sunnis and other religious minorities (including Christians) are less than thrilled that its now their turn to be mass grave filler. That’s another reason why I don’t give americans points over mass graves. They’re still being dug right under their noses by the very same Iraqi police and military forces that they are equiping and training.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4719252.stm
    Turns our their earlier daliance with supporting these militias was a very big mistake. To their credit there are some american officers who are trying to reverse this trend and I hope they’re sucessful but I’m extremely skeptical.

  23. Jose: Perjury is perjury no matter the lie. But for the record, I’ve never agreed with their going after Clinton over that. That was vicious partisan warfare; Bush has been exposed to it also, I think you’ll agree (The Fake but Accurate Memo). But again, perjury is extremely serious notwithstanding the seriousness, or lack thereof, of the matter of the lie.
    It would be naive to think the US did Iraq as a humanitarian mission. There’s always self-interest in geopolitics, which is why no one bothered with Rwanda — no self interest!
    However, I think “spin” here is unjust. Right or wrong, Bush’s big (radical, revolutionary)idea was that representative government in the middle east would make for a safer US and a safer world. You sound like too smart a cat to buy the blood for oil argument, surely!
    I agree about the ME perception. As someone put it recently, muslims have no concept of military action not motivated by booty. I mean that’s what Islam is all about as I understand it from my reading (recently: Legacy of Jihand: Islamic Holy War and the fate of non-muslims).

  24. The upper bound for the phony Lancet numbers is actually 198k, and I say if you’re going to use phony numbers, go for the gusto and go for the max!

  26. me no dhimmi “You sound like too smart a cat to buy the blood for oil argument, surely!”
    Oh I agree. I lost interest in conspiracy theories after the third season of the X Files. But I wouldn’t dismiss oil entirely as a strategic consideration either. Bush was surrounded by advisors who wanted the Iraq war for lots of different reasons and a public that didn’t get closure in Afghanistan.
    Before 9/11 Bush was something of a lame president, he couldn’t get anything done. With the War on Terror he suddenly became one of the most powerful presidents ever. That’s a lot of temptation for a man eager to make his mark on history. Bush’s sin is one of pride in my opinion.

  27. me no dhimmi “Bush has been exposed to it also, I think you’ll agree (The Fake but Accurate Memo). But again, perjury is extremely serious notwithstanding the seriousness, or lack thereof, of the matter of the lie.”
    That’s the problem with special prosecutors. If they serve enough suponeas over enough years they’ll eventually catch someone on something procedural even if there is no underlying crime. The American legal system’s main purpose seems to be to keep as many lawyers as possible in full employment.

  28. Jose: Well we’re in complete agreement on that one! I really think special prosecutors are mischief-makers. They gotta “produce” after all.

  29. That Cox & Forkum cartoon is so right on the money. When i saw the story of the “new” Abu Ghairb photos last week, i wasn’t sure whether to laugh out loud or throw the remote through the TV.
    How can you come out and say that the cartoons cannot be shown because they are too inflamatory but photos of prisoner abuse aren’t?

  31. Personally I like the torture pictures before the yanks took over the prison. After all, standing a guy up on a box and telling him that he will get an electrical shock is just no way as stimulating as cutting off a persons tongue, or throwing them off the roof. And a bloody face just can’t keep up with amputated limbs or crucifing a person. Sadamm had murder down to an art. These guys are weenies in comparrison.

  32. Jose wrote:
    The left doesn’t have a monopoly on this silliness. Republicans went nuclear over Clinton getting a blowjob knowing full well that extra marital affairs among politicos are sixpence to the dozen.
    You may be correct, Jose, but for the President of the U.S. to corrupt a young intern who, as it turns out, was a confused and conflicted young woman, was not only despicable, it was a total abuse of power. If a teacher were to have done this, s/he would be hung out to dry, never to work again. Not only is Bill still working, he’s making huge $$$$s on the speech circuit.
    Oh yes, and let’s not forget, that getting a blow job wasn’t Bill’s only transgression. When caught out, he LIED about it–and he, as President, is the chief law enforcement officer of the U.S.
    Don’t blame the impeachment on Republicans. Bill brought it on himself and behaved abominably. When the libbies I know were quick to defend him I’d ask them how they’d feel if Monica L. were their daugther. Might that change their perspective. They would immediately change the subject.

  33. Jose,

    What if Lewinsky was an Israeli agent?

    Would you still think the special prosecutor was “ruthless”?

    Pres. Clinton lied to a grand jury.

    He was impeached AND disbarred.

    IMHO, the only thing “ruthless” was his terrible disregard for all of those “close” to him.

    I predict the Clinton “curse” will continue and those whom he endorses politically will keep losing.

  34. Pres Bush has been clear on the reasons to invade Iraq.

    That reason is to disarm and dismantle the Baathist Party.

    If Iraqis seize the moment and build a democratic country than that is an added benefit but it was certainly not the primary reason for this war.

    Some would argue this war drags on because of PC feelings that constrained the US advancing forces.

    They were not allowed to kill Saddams army and Saddams army was given the chance to throw off their uniforms and melt into the general population.

    IMO, much of the terrorism there now is “blowback”.

  35. no bozos allowed: To summarize, sensitive, considerate one-hand-tied-behind-the-back warfare is a disaster. Absolutely.
    You also make a good point about the Iraqis seizing or not seizing the opportunity afforded to them: if in the fullness of time we find that the project was a flop, I won’t be blaming Bush, I’m clear on that.

  36. Thanks New Kid, you took got my point of slick Willie’s “transgression” out well. If agruably the most powerful man in the western world wants to tickle an intern’s tonsils then does she really have a choice? Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

  37. new kid … echoing Texas, I had meant to cite your excellent argument. I too have long thought that the Monica thing was not a run-of-the-mill after-hours sexual dalliance. It was a made-in-heaven case for feminist outrage: asymetrical power relationship/abuse of an employer, doubly so for a president. I could only interpret their silence as owing to Clinton’s unflinching support for a “woman’s right to choose”.

  38. Worse yet is the marriage of 13 year old girls to older men or cousins.
    http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/000972.php
    Sorry for ranting, but this cartoon protest is the biggest screwup in modern times.
    What I do hope and pray is the eyes of the people of the world, and the Muslim’s themselves will see they hypocrisy of all this and change for the better.
    Also that our political correct dunderhead leaders will see their wrongs also, meaning not be afraid to allow the police to do their jobs and arrest these sickos and deportation.
    Major deportation.

  40. Just got wind from another blog that in Brooks there is a 5 block area the RCMP won’t go into, due to it becoming a ghetto of African refugee’s working at the slaughterhouse in Brooks.
    Anyone know about this.
    My God, here in Alberta, we got our own ghetto, bad enough in Toronto where cops won’t go, but come on, out here?
    cheers
    tom

  42. If agruably the most powerful man in the western world wants to tickle an intern’s tonsils then does she really have a choice? Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely..
    Amen to that.
    Monica was a kid. My youngest daughter was the same age as Monica at the time. My revoltion was the fact that kids are gullible and easily manipulated. When the most powerful man in the world tells you that you are an object of sexual deire, then you are a pawn not equally matched in power.
    Slick Willie – the Bent One – probably doesn’t see Mohammed and his follower’s pathologies – his are the same proclivities.
    I wonder sometimes what moral maternal advice the Hildabeast offers to daughter. Dad’s transgressions – Chelsea was the same age as Monica – should be excused?
    God forbid, if the Hildabeat wins in ’08 I’m heading to western Canada. And I hate cold weather. I live in Florida and I’m still cold.

  43. no bozos allowed “What if Lewinsky was an Israeli agent?”
    This takes me back to my original point about Cheney’s Hunting trip. You on the right find all the conspiracy theories about the shooting trip ridiculous (and I agree). Well what you’ve just said is equally silly.
    The right went to the matt Senator Packwood trying to force himself on women but goes ballistic a few news cycles later when a democrat has consensual sex. It’s pure partisanship and its absolute hypocripsy. Think about it next time you hear the someone on the left making a mountain out of a molehill.

  44. The left liberal socialists will demand the recall of Chavez. The left moonbats will come to the aid of the freedoms as listed in the UN’s something or other; the left will die for freedom in Venezuela. Not.
    Watch Chavez crown himself as Tyrant, Dictator, Emperor, ala Napoleon, et al. Oh, & don’t forget Adolf, he of the 1000 year reich.
    Fascism/nazism/communism: all the evil isms spring from socialism. +
    Venezuela’s Chavez may end presidential term limits
    Reuters on Yahoo ^ | 2/19/06 | Brian Ellsworth
    Posted on 02/19/2006 6:01:26 PM PST by NormsRevenge
    CARACAS, Venezuela (Reuters) – Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said on Sunday he may seek to lift constitutionally mandated presidential term limits if opposition parties boycott the upcoming December presidential elections.
    “I might sign a decree calling for a popular referendum — do you agree that Chavez should run for a third term in 2013?” Chavez said during his weekly Sunday broadcast. “It’s not a firm decision, it’s something I’m thinking about.”
    Chavez was first elected in 1998 and again in 2000 after he led a move to rewrite the country’s constitution. He is up for re-election in December, and has accused the opposition and the U.S. government of seeking to disrupt the poll.
    Opposition parties boycotted parliamentary elections last December on allegations of electoral authority bias, allowing Chavez’s allies to win all the legislature’s seats. +
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1581922/posts

  45. Jose,

    Why is it silly?

    Pres. Clinton could have been blackmailed.

    Don’t you ever wonder how far he would go to keep his indiscretions secret.

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