First an intro with Rawlco Radio (650 Saskatoon) host John Gormley, in which the issue of the confidence motions was raised. He gives the party line – “a majority” of experts back the government interpretation that they lost procedural votes only. (Would this be like the “expert” Liberal-friendly Ernst & Young audit selective review performed on Liberal Party books?)
Callers:
Dallas: On the spending spree – you’ve had 12 years to bring this, and you seem like pranksters – the guy with the 100 bill on the end of the fishing line, jerking the line away at the last minute. …throwing money around into the day care money pit.
Goodale: defending daycare, “can’t put that in the category of last minute”
Gormley points out most of the announcements have been last minute..
Goodale: They were already referred to in budget.
Gormley: So why reannounce them?
Goodale: just defining them… Pine beetles… extra assistance for mad cow… one thing that is new – arrangement with NDP, as I said before 3 principles that had to be adhered to.. a) no deficit b) debt reduction had to continue c) any spending would have to fit within the flexibility that we’ve got and on priorities preiviously identified. ed, health, foreign aid, environment. …. just changed the “profile” of spending.
Stephanie: Is Calvert getting an energy accord?
Goodale: We had good discussions, details to be worked out, not there yet. constructive point of view, he has a panel that will decide about the formula for future. Can work on eduction and environment in the meantime. We’ll keep working.
Stephanie: “That sounds like a no.”
Goodale: Issues are complex… you can’t scribble down a number on the back of an envelope… or you can get “serious:….
(Did he just say that? Back of an envelope? That’s going to come back to bite him.)
Gormley – Can Calvert get that now?
Goodale: “there’s work to be done… made progress… we’ve made terrific progress… $710 million in extra equalization.. ”
(Looks like we have to take flags down.)
Gormley – he doesn’t have an equalization deal yet.
Goodale throws decision making authority back to “the panel” and says he’ll will work on other things.
Joyce: “Government coffers must be already empty by now. How are you going to get the money back from that Liberal “take away”?”
Goodale is talking about surplus provisions worked into budget plan.. which isn’t what she was asking about… finally gets to Gomery.. two things: started proceedings to recover funds from wrongdoers. 19 legal actions to recover money. some given back voluntarily. (That would be the PQ, Ralph, not the Liberals).
New safeguards built into the system? (Who is he kidding? With the tightening of freedom of information and watering down of whistleblower legislation?) reporting of every contract on internet. (So what? Where is the cash filled envelope, judgeship reward program tracking system?)
Larry: Going back to opening remarks about the conduct in parliament – defending the Conservatives “hissy fit” – points out that they are entitled to be angry about corruption and government refusal to step down…. throws the “back of envelope” remark in his face – “Liberals use envelopes full of cash”..
Asks if Martin has been found to be wrongdoing, what happens then?
Goodale: Martin is clean. (Did anyone else mention he was specific about Gomery?)
Caller: “How many million in a billion.” He tells her 1,000. ” How many billions of taxpayer money to buy Librano votes? ” … She doesn’t want any political doublespeak … “All I want is a number.”
Heh.
Goodale: “incremental” amount just over 9 billion.
Cindy: “When you were minister of natural resources, were you aware of sponsorship program?”
(This sounds like a set-up …)
Goodale: No… Well, everyone knew the program existed. Didn’t know the wrongdoing.
(…. and it is.)
Cindy: “So why would an ad agency in Vancouver be responsible for sending a $50,000 advertising contract in Saskatoon.
Goodale: Well, this was the problem with the program… he began to investigate when he was in Public works. He suspended program, fired those ad agences.. etc… blah blah blah.
Gay Nor[?] – “See on SPAC we are now giving 170 million to Darfur. Where was Canada a month ago? You’re raping and torture these people all over again for one vote – for David Kilgour’s vote. Just to keep yourself in power.”
(These people are playing hardball.)
Goodale: lowers voice… serious now, relying on Romeo Dallaire.. Clearly this plan for Darfour was not devised in the last week or two.
(Clearly he’s full of shit.)
That’s it, and he’s gone. Next time he’ll learn to stretch out his answers even further than he did today. Stammering eats up valuable seconds. He’s not as good at it as Paul Martin, but he had his moments.
Gormley: and there were callers even “meaner than those ones waiting in the wings.” (Like me.)
Nice job, Saskatchewan!
( correction – Aaron Braaten tells me the Ernst & Young reference is in error – it was Deloitte & Touche and Price Waterhouse Coopers)
update – TZ also live blogged the interview.