28 Replies to “We Don’t Need No Stinking Sparky Cars”

  1. Other factors that were not discussed in the video (but possibly in his next):

    What does your power bill look like having to plug in your EV overnight, which is every night?

    What happens in the wintertime when you need to run the heater? I don’t believe the Musk/Tesla claim it is minimal. It will be more like the old VW Beetle with the gasoline powered unit.

    How much crude oil is required to produce one EV? We’re talking petrochemicals and plastics here.

  2. I have tried watching that guy’s videos. Anyone reading this, don’t bother.

    He is a certified official member of “batteries and electric are the future” cult.

    First the facts:
    Human –> carbon based life form.
    Against carbon –> anti-human.
    Batteries –> predate internal combustion engines.
    Batteries –> mature technology; breakthroughs highly unlikely.
    Batteries –> continuous research for more than 200 years.

    It is highly unlikely that a disruptive world changing advance in batteries coming; anyone telling you otherwise, is making a religious argument, not a scientific one. Once you realize you are no longer talking science, hang up the phone, walk away, turn the channel, …

    1. “Human –> carbon based life form.
      Against carbon –> anti-human.”

      Not even joking, this is probably in the top 5 stupidest things I’ve read all year. And that’s saying something.

      1. So 7 hours, and you got no replies. At least try to be amusing with your troll efforts.

        1. I wasn’t trolling dude, I was just straight up insulting your intelligence. I’d say you should learn the difference, but obviously learning isn’t your forte.

      2. CO2 is the basis for advanced lift on earth.

        If CO2 levels reach 150 PPM then land based photosynthesis ends. This is the same as tree line being sea level.

        We are land based life.

        Since the evolution of grasses as a very efficient photosynthesiser, CO2 levels have been exponentially falling.

        At the current rate of decrease, prior to human evolution to tool and fire using, land based life would have become extinct on earth in between 30 and 90 million years. This is using a start point for the graph of 30-50 million years ago.

        CO2 is life. CO2 is a primary cause of global temperature change is religion.

        Canada will cease to be when the next glaciation cycle begins. We don’t know when this will be. Ice 2 km thick is the normal climate for most of Canada over the last 2 million years.

        Your view is so myopic I don’t take it seriously. I see the last 200 years as being the same as the difference between 8 AM and 8:05 AM – negligible on the scales we should be researching.

        I also expect nothing of substance back, because most CO2 worries are religious and don’t look at the matter scientifically. Geologic history shows their concerns are for naught.

        1. “At the current rate of decrease, prior to human evolution to tool and fire using, land based life would have become extinct on earth in between 30 and 90 million years. This is using a start point for the graph of 30-50 million years ago.”

          Citation needed.

          1. You can use Nasif Nahle (2009) or ice core data from Pagani (2005) or the GEOCARB III data as listed in Celestial driver of Phanerozoic climate? (NIRJ. SHAVIV ANDJÁNVEIZER, in GSA today, VOLUME 13, NUMBER 7, JULY 2003), for the low points in the recent values (last 400,000 years) I used Petit et al 1999. The low point in the cycle will be what kills plant life.

        2. I am surprised you even bothered, obvious troll. A very fact filled fleshing out of my one liner “against carbon means against humanity” though. Nicely done.

  3. I Have a Tesla and I don’t plug it in every night. In the summer I usually plug it in every 3’rd day or so. But I put a KWHR meter on the source and measure the KWHR for the car on a monthly basis.

    Prior to buying the Tesla I kept track of my Audi ICE engine car for two years and measured the gas costs.
    On average the cost of the electricity is about 1/3 that of gas at $1.00 per litre. I have been keeping track of this for over 2 years now.
    I find that the heater and the AC unit doesn’t really make that much difference on how fast the charge is used up at.

    In the winter when the temp is -20 I lose about 15 to 20% of the range. But my Tesla 100D battery gets about 500 KM on a full charge. So in the winter I have to plug it in every second night when its -20.

    What I like about the Tesla is it’s RAW Torque. No normal ICE engine can match, and the car is very quiet, No noise like a Jet engine taking off when you put the pedal to the Medal. I didn’t buy it because of the environment as I am a CO2 lover, I bought it because of the performance.

    No shifting of gears. I have driven to Phoenix from Calgary and back 3 times and in N. Dakota, Montana, Idaho and Utah the speed limit is 140 KM/Hr. When i come up to a truck or need to pass quickly there is no shifting of gears and a roar out of the engine waiting for it to torque up, It just jumps like a Jack Rabbit at 140 KM/Hr to say 160 or 170 or more instantly. Quite honestly I have never floored it as it can be really scary as the acceleration is instant and strong..

    Plus when I bought mine I have free supercharging for 8 years. So a trip to and from Phoenix costs me Nada. Supercharging takes about 20 minutes that’s when we stop every 3 hours or so to have a coffee and a Pee or lunch if the timing is right.

    My wife traded in her BMW for a Model S and loves it.

    1. “I have free supercharging for 8 years.”
      =================
      Not sure what that is, but one thing I do know for sure is that nothing is free. So the question is, who’s paying for it? My guess is probably the taxpayers who can’t afford one of those.

    3. There is no road tax on electricity, but to have roads they are going to need to switch that ,are you proud that the very poorest subsidized your tesla ?

  4. Where is the electricity supposed to come from to power 2 hundred million electric cars in the US? Ain’t happening – ever. End of story. We will have coal fired cars before all electric cars.

    1. I agree wholeheartedly.

      Unless we see a massive rise in favour of Nuclear Generation, it’ll never even be close to the realm of possible:

      Current Leftist bullshit will never allow: Coal – Oil – Gas, Hydro is damned near tapped out world wide. Wind-Solar ..?? Have always been boutique horseshit for those who believe 500m divided by 350 million equals financial security for all.

      Going full pin Nuclear would be the only way…

      meh, at the rate – direction things are going..it ain’t gonna matter one way or the other.

    3. Don’t forget the infrastructure to support the higher loads, if enough generating capacity can be found.

  5. Interesting term I just saw for the first time, over at Quillette; clerisy.

    “The term clerisy was coined by Samuel Coleridge in the 1830s to define a class of people whose job it was to instruct and direct the masses. Traditional clerics remained part of this class, but they were joined by others—university professors, scientists, public intellectuals, and the heads of charitable foundations.”

    “Similarly ultra-green policies—favored by the clerisy and their oligarchal allies—have been resoundingly rejected by voters in Australia, allowing for a surprise conservative victory, and in places like Ontario and Alberta, Canada, where green regulations impact basic industries, such as oil and manufacturing, critical to the yeomanry.”

    https://quillette.com/2020/02/27/the-two-middle-classes/

    The clerisy is growing, the real middle class is shrinking. Only the clerisy can afford Teslas, or wind power…

  6. I don’t have $100,000 to blow on a car.
    I’m not ashamed of the car I drive.
    If you are charging an EV in Calgree thank the oil, gas, coal industry for the power.

  7. Watched the video. Guy has a sort of annoying voice. And he had all those neat props on the table, and never used them. Fail.

    And it’s “internal combustion engine”, dude, not “combustion engine”. Steam engines, and that Sterling cycle engine on your table are external combustion engines, and you don’t see either in cars, any more. There’s a reason for that.

  8. Three years ago, when I was 76, I decided to give up drag racing because my reflexes were not as sharp as they used to be. The car was a 1985 black fox bodied mustang and the engine which had a blown alcohol 371 c.i. generating 1384 hp (https://blownfx.blogspot.com/2014/01/646-dyno-sheetof-last-test-with-update.html). I mention this because I think I know a little bit about car engines. As a substitute for building race cars I thought I would build myself an electric bike (just for something different) with a goal of taking it to Tuktoyaktuk on the Arctic Ocean via the Dempster Highway. The technical challenges were formidable but bike is finished and I will make the trip in mid June if the ice is off the rivers. Building the bike gave real insight into the pros and cons of electric powered vehicles.

    This is what I think I have learned. Electric vehicles have extraordinary limitations. My biggest hurdle was having enough battery power to go from Dawson City to Eagle Plains (405 kilometres). This will require 10 kWh of battery power. I have those batteries now and they weigh 120 lbs. I carry them on a trailer which I tow behind the bike. And, I should mention, 10 kWh of lithium batteries cost mucho dinero. When I get to the Eagle Plains outpost my main worry is that I don’t trip all the circuit breakers at the motel when I am recharging.

    Can you imagine what would happen at this remote outpost if a few EV cars pulled in – never mind all what would happen if a few 18 wheelers pulled in? And Eagle Plains gets very cold in the winter. Many -45 C days this winter. Now that temperature is a real battery killer. No matter what can be accomplished in an urban setting, there is no possibility that EV vehicles can operate in remote locations. There are tens upon tens of thousands of vehicles operating in remote locations and, that fact alone will prevent the obsolescence of IC engines.

    It has occurred to me more than once in the development of my “outback” bicycle that if IC engines were unknown and the world were operating completely on electric vehicles and Henry Ford showed up with his V8, he would become the Elon Musk of his day. Internal combustion engines are an underappreciated engineering wonder.

    But, there is a silver lining to the EV concept. If I were developing a new drag racing car, it would have electric motors. I am convinced they are the future in drag racing. But for general purposes they would be as practical as using nitro methane to power a street machine.

    1. Most interesting. Thanks for the project story. An electric powered recumbent trike might have been more comfortable. Good luck, happy trails.

        1. Nice bike, thanks for sharing. My wife and I rode the Silver Triangle starting at Nelson last summer. It was fun. You are a brave soul to tackle the North Country. I take my hat off to you.

    2. Blackfox, I have a 3.8 and do just fine with that, it is great for towing, and Ford gets 727 HP out of the one they put in the Mclaren P1.

  9. I have a few questions of people more qualified than me re E-cars.

    What is the life of E-car batteries (kms) before needing replacement and how much does that cost?
    How many KMs can an E-car get before motors need replacement and at what cost?

    If I wanted a decent used car, I could get a 5 to 10 year old VW diesel with roughly 100,000 kms for 8 to 10 grand loonies and get another economical 200,000 kms on it. Is there anything possible that compares to that in E-cars?

  10. Someday in the near future your costs will go up, as right now you are contributing nothing to road building and maintenance. I like battery powered stuff – I have battery powered tools, chainsaws, a pole saw, ice auger and whipper snipper. And electric trolling motors. But I doubt my next pick-up truck will be a battery powered vehicle. My F 150 will do me more than 900 kms hwy driving between fill-ups and when Im out on the prairies or deep in the woods I don’t have to go looking for a plug in. Electric cars are OK for urbanites, but not for those of us who like to see what the world is like off the beaten path and who use a vehicle for a whole lot more than just personal transportation.

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