18 Replies to “Tony Blair’s Britain”

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    The emergence of Nigel Farage gives badly needed revitalization to the phrase,”There will always be an England”.
    Listen to him speak on YouTube if you haven’t

  2. Well heavens someone has to beat back the elitist Philistines…why not Nigel Farage?
    Nigel has just the right temperament to beat back the impudent puffery and pretentious swanning of the so called ‘mainstream’ parties; which have in the intervening years become deaf, dumb and blind.
    Cheers
    Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
    1st St. Nicolaas Army
    Army Group “True North”

  3. That’s to say, the late Mr. Milligan more or less singlehandedly planted the practice of “auto-erotic asphyxiation” in the public consciousness — since when (as John O’Sullivan suggested here a while back) the Tory party seems to have embraced it as a political philosophy. 10/10 would read again. Some Classic Steyn.
    I want to like Farage and I would vote for him if I were British but I have some problems, such as his insufficient deference for immigration. I also read a truly awful recent article by Farage himself praising the Fed’s Quantitative Easing! And I think UKIP is in favor of maintaining farm subsidies. Their opposition to gay marriage has to go if they want to move forward in the 21st century.
    As I understand it, at some point in the last decade a Labour prime minister exited 10 Downing Street by the back door and a Conservative prime minister came in through the front. And yet nothing changed. And the more frantically Tory loyalists talk up the rare sightings of genuine conservatism — Education Secretary Michael Gove’s proposed reforms! — the more they remind you of how few there are.
    Across an ocean, it’s the same.

  4. I approve of Steyn’s message, and I am not Farage.
    While there are considered concerns about his grasp of issues or policy suggestions, he is a necessary attack on the current dinner party set in the UK.

  5. An excellent piece by Steyn. I’ve always liked Farage and was curious about what the dinner party set of England thought about him. Quite a bizarre world where the speech he made in the European parliament excoriating von Rompuy is viewed as an affront to decency by the “sophisticated”. Given his fondness for alcohol, it’s a fair bet that some of his best rants have been after imbibing a few pints. The horror that he actually smokes cigarettes means that he’s completely excluded from “enlightened” company for this reason alone.
    I only hope that the UKIP elects lots of MP’s in Britain as I can’t see any future for that country otherwise. The “enlightened” never once stop to think that they might be the aberrant ones and that the people who vote UKIP have a far better understanding of reality. The “reality” of the political classes is becoming more and more congruent with that of the last king of France before the French revolution. Interesting bit about Lord Sutch who I haven’t thought about in years and have some albums of his from the 1970’s.
    LAS, any country with a welfare system is justified in limiting immigration. Once the welfare system is abolished, then one can have free immigration as it would mean that people would have to pay their own way in their new country. As far as “gay marriage”, the less said about this non-topic, the better. Considering that the rate of illegitimate births in England is about equal to that of US inner city slums, there doesn’t appear to be much interest in marriage in that country.

  6. LAS, any country with a welfare system is justified in limiting immigration.
    One injustice does not make another injustice okay.
    As far as “gay marriage”, the less said about this non-topic, the better.
    Which is why UKIP should accept it. As long as they oppose it, it’ll get ‘said’ aplenty and UKIP will suffer for it.

  7. As for Screaming Lord Sutch and the MRLP: I can remember listening on the radio to a UK general election as the results in various constituencies were announced. Since there the returning officer did not give the candidates’ party affiliation the announcer had to sotto voce provide them as the individual results were given.
    It was most amusing as announcers had rapidly and breathlessly to say “Monster Raving Loony Party” after the name and before the number. “Labour”, “Conservative” or “Liberal” were so much more rapidly and easily interposed. Yet another reason why the MRLP name is great.
    Mark
    Ottawa

  8. L-ass
    stop digging when yer hole is too deep fer yah!!!
    all countries should not only limit, but regulate immigration
    and gay marriage is best left in the closet, as it is basically a non topic, Loki gets it, you just prove your stupidity

  9. Another in the list of excellent article by Mark. I particularly like his phrase “And, even more than the policies, the men advancing them are increasingly interchangeable”. In some ways that phrase could describe Canadian political parties. If it wasn’t for the rhetoric you could hardly tell them apart on most policies.
    Another sentence that hits the mark is, “If you reckon things are grand just as they are, having a choice between three indistinguishable “social democrat” parties — as Farage calls Labour, Liberal, and Conservative — is fine.” That is pretty close to the mark, and if Joe Who would have his way that is exactly what we would have.
    Farage does appear to be his own man and not a wobbly like the rest.
    On the marriage issue, Loki and NME666, exactly.

  10. “…I want to like Farage …”
    Sure you do LAS…sure you do.
    At least to the same extent that I want to like Turdo la Doo or Robert Mugabe.

  11. LASsie said: “but I have some problems, such as his insufficient deference for immigration.”
    Immigration? Really? You want -more- of it with less restrictions?
    How many Romanian strippers and Sudanese goat herders do you think England can support, LASsie? Just going by observation I’d say they’re about topped out.

  12. Phantom, I’m not opposed to bringing in Romanian strippers as they do come from a western culture. Also, they’re likely going to work harder than the indigenous strippers.
    Sudanese goat herders, OTOH, are such a niche occupation and I doubt that more than a handful are needed in England. Most people around where I live herd their own goats and sheep so they’re not needed in BC either.
    Dalrymple in his Life at the Bottom had a favorable view of immigration as the immigrants were much harder working than the British lower classes but, over a couple of generations, they had acclimated and were collecting welfare and having multiple illegitimate children by different fathers just like the British born population. His book is an interesting read, but it’s a pretty depressing book overall and shouldn’t be read in one sitting as severe depression is a possible consequence. The interchangeable politicians of Britain are actually a throwback to the feudal era where the upper classes would lord over the peasants. The upper class British twits have nothing in common with the majority of the population. Farage seems to be a lot closer to the British working class and hopefully there are still enough people in that country to vote for him as there’s only a very narrow temporal window for Britain to reverse it’s otherwise inexorable downward slide into oblivion. The problem is that the “modern” educational system, despite ever increasing expenditures on “teachers” has created generations of illiterate humans who nevertheless have high self-esteem. These individuals don’t now how stupid they are and, if they were capable of realizing how much they’d have been shortchanged by the “educational” system, there would be school administrators hanging from every lamp post throughout the country. These are the people that can be enticed to vote in the “proper” manner with bread and circuses and free phones.

  13. Every time I see Nigel Farage speak, he makes me smile. He reminds me of the genuine men I knew back in the 1950’s. They were kind, funny, obnoxious, fearless, and self confident – and most of those men smoked tobacco and drank beer and whiskey.
    The men I knew were totally politically incorrect and did not mind calling a spade a spade, they swore at (but did not kick) dogs and horses for the fun of it, they stayed out late at dances and poker games, they wore their boots into the house and did not clean up after themselves because they said that they did not know what a mop was, never mind how to use it; they did not change or wash diapers, they did not cook meals…unless their wives fell ill..then they did all the things that women of the 50’s did: with some success and created or made up lots of stories about their horrific failures ‘in the house’.
    What a different world that was – kids rode in the back of trucks with the wind in our faces, dogs ran wild with kids on bikes (no locks, no helmets), kids played outside until dark (no adults telling them ‘not to’), men wore Fedora hats and opened doors for women, women cooked, cleaned, washed and ironed for their families and took great pride in their accomplishments…it was great fun to be alive in the 50’s – my family was not very rich in $$ but we owned our land, our cattle, our house and our lives…we were millionaires by today’s standards and the men I knew had the ability to make our lives even richer because they made us laugh.
    Here is Nigel Farage on Herman whats his name (European Union Pres). Play it and I challenge you not to grin:
    http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Nigel+Farage+%27who+are+you%27+utube&docid=5042898240734524&mid=6FCF93005F32D07460566FCF93005F32D0746056&view=detail&FORM=VIRE6
    Thank-you Nigel Farage.

  14. “…The problem is that the “modern” educational system…has created generations of illiterate humans who nevertheless have high self-esteem. These individuals don’t now how stupid they are…These are the people that can be enticed to vote in the “proper” manner with bread and circuses and free phones.”
    Classic. And in Ontario, windmills and solar panels.

  15. I know, I’m the odd man out but I’ve never read anything by Mark Steyn before. He is “da man” with words. Really great article. Loved the part about the President of the European Union…..

  16. You’d think Mark Steyn would know better—not about Nigel Farage being a gentleman, an Englishman and a patriot, for his is all of these—but about Mr. Farage’s changes of changing anything.
    Everybody knows that our Conservatives only got their majority when they started kissing the rings of the ethnic tribal leaders Pierre Trudeau let into Canada—that essentially, is what Jason Kenney is paid to do—and persuaded the chiefs to instruct their tribes to vote Tory. In effect, to replace the Liberal Party they have had to become the Liberal Party. Nothing of substance has changed, and because Trudeau’s accursed constitution is impossible to amend, nothing is likely to short of a Bucharest Christmas in Ottawa.
    Labour, meanwhile, hasn’t needed what remains the British working class to win elections for a while now, thanks to uncontrolled immigration. That’s why they permitted the uncontrolled immigration in the first place. Labour eventually figured out that the vast majority of the British working class (as opposed to their self-appointed Marxist trade union leaders) were not actually interested in communism, and that their party was doomed unless the British people were somehow replaced with a rabble more likely to support communism and less likely to support Rhodesia or whinge about British liberty.
    If Mark Steyn really believes a political party genuinely committed to defending the interests of the British people against banksters, communists, Eurocrats and traitors will be permitted any real power, he is too good for this world. Free, fair elections are never allowed to take place if the outcome will inconvenience our masters. If you don’t believe me, ask the good people of Alberta, who voted Wildrose in the naive belief that their desire for real change would be respected, saw Calgary’s Muslims steal the election for the Alberta PCs, and are now being punished for their impertinence with mass gun confiscation.
    Or ask the peoples of many nations of Europe forced to vote several times for changes to European treaties until the local satraps got the 50%+1 figleaf they needed to justify what they planned to do anyway—yield even more of their people’s liberties to their European masters.
    In passing, you may also ask the good people of Serbia how Europe is likely to react when the government of a European nation decides to actually defend the nation against the conspiracies of Eurocrats, traitors and Muslim terrorists. If by some miracle Nigel Farage is asked by the Queen to form a government, his first act as prime minister had better be to advise her to order the Chunnel be put “beyond use” with explosives, because failing that EU tanks will start emerging from it within 24 hours.

  17. saw Calgary’s Muslims steal the election for the Alberta PCs
    WTF are you talking about?

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