Oops! I think we owe someone a tank full of diesel.
13 Replies to “Nothing Says “Climate Science””
As per “∞ ≠ ø on July 1, 2013 12:03 PM” http://www.geog.uvic.ca/uvtrl/old-staff.htm
What an unbearably embarrassing collage of ugly little pampered crazy people trying to live free off of your money.
I was going to say (but did not) that this sort of vehicle is exactly what SHOULD be used for field climate science, if it was actual science instead of activism.
this sort of vehicle is exactly what SHOULD be used for field climate science
Exactly. Somebody made a good vehicle choice.
It’s odd that so many SDA members have a problem with that.
North_of_60 – it’s not that I have anything against diesel trucks. They’re a good choice for those who work with heavy loads. The thing is that the lunacy that they are proponents of wants the rest of us to use public transit or little 2 seater death traps. If they really, truly, believe that increasing carbon dioxide levels will cause a thermageddon, then they shouldn’t use anything heavier that a small Toyota pickup, or a plug-in rechargable car (which makes them feel nice and smug, even though it means that their car is coal powered here in Alberta).
If, on the other hand, it’s OK to use fossil fuels and to use heavy enough equipment to go/do anything required to get the job done, then what is the purpose for their department existing?
It’s like the question of how anthropogenic global warming avoidance meetings have to be held in resorts with hundreds flying in to attend: if they were really serious about their cause then everyone would have to telecommute in order to lower their “carbon footprints”. Until they live their message, they have no right to demand or dictate any changes in lifestyles to the rest of us.
Pretty sure most people here are fans of big trucks.
You have it backwards.
If the U of G in fact has people on board with Ross and Climate Audit, can we say “SDA gets results”?
I’d prefer to say “SDA fills their tank”.
It’s sort of like Price Charles telling the public that they need to take sponge baths occasionally to save fresh water. Of course on the other hand he needs Olympic sized bath tubs and small lakes for duck baths on estates across the UK.
Ummm or Al Gore telling everyone to reduce their carbon footprint but he personally needs a $20K residential electric bill and private jet to “get business done”.
When your “Important” the rules meant for the little people need to bend.
Came across something similar in Washington state a few years ago. Took a pic of an electric truck with all the labelling so you knew it was ELECTRIC, meanwhile a gas generator was running in the bed.
RE: Ross McKitrick on July 1, 2013 10:25 AM
Reading the links Mr. McKitrick left with his comment was quite an experience, particularly the entire comment / discussion on this article: http://climateaudit.org/2007/11/23/almagre-data/
Recently, I viewed NOVA’s “The Secret Lives of Plants.” I wonder how the discoveries presented here have affected the discussion I read through your link which ended in 2008?
Specifically, it seems to me that the divergence phenomenon in the tree ring data, and or the asymmetric pattern of the rings in the BC pines may be explained through the inclusion or recognition of what I shall call maternal periods and or maternal sides of the trees.
I would further this notion to include the possibility that the hockey-stick phenomena, from the 1960’s on, may well be anthropomorphic and that there is no coincidence between biome wide differences and the advent of the ecological era.
Cheers,
I’ll throw in a lottery ticket with the tank of diesel.
anthropogenic
Oh, OK… So you’re saying the issue isn’t the truck but rather the presumably greenwashed hypocrite in a climate science dept who would rent a fuel efficient diesel truck for field work?
No, I think the oops is here because the the fellows over at Guelf are partaking in, what is being termed, an audit of the dendro record which has been badly distorted, abused, and applied in a potentially misleading fashion by other climate scientists.
Ross McKitrick’s post includes a comment section which includes numerous references to political pressure being applied to scientists in that field along with a lengthy discussion which candidly reveals the shortcomings of the dendrochronology as a proxy record for global temperatures especially from 1960 on.
Essentially, the truck, in all of its true magnificent glory, was more likely driven by an AGW hype opponent rather than a proponent. While the greenwashing can still be presumed, in this case it is not a stain.
Jasper National Park has been using dendrochronology to date some of its historic and perhaps not so historic structures.
Sorry North_of_60, it’s not that it was a rental, nor is it a gas versus diesel thing. Last time I checked, Guelph was in Ontario. There are trains that run from Ontario to Alberta and through the mountain parks. Trains that have a much smaller individual carbon footprint for mass transit than individual vehicles do. They chose to drive instead. And they chose to drive a lot more truck than is needed to take Hwy 1 halfway across the country.
If they really, truly, are concerned that “carbon dioxide pollution” is going to destroy the ecosphere, they wouldn’t do that. Since they don’t seem to care about the impacts of “carbon dioxide pollution”, I chose to not listen to anything they have to say about how mankind is ruining the planet. Because they’re hypocrites. Who drive a lot bigger ride than I can afford.
And how do they afford it? My taxes.
As per “∞ ≠ ø on July 1, 2013 12:03 PM”
http://www.geog.uvic.ca/uvtrl/old-staff.htm
What an unbearably embarrassing collage of ugly little pampered crazy people trying to live free off of your money.
I was going to say (but did not) that this sort of vehicle is exactly what SHOULD be used for field climate science, if it was actual science instead of activism.
this sort of vehicle is exactly what SHOULD be used for field climate science
Exactly. Somebody made a good vehicle choice.
It’s odd that so many SDA members have a problem with that.
North_of_60 – it’s not that I have anything against diesel trucks. They’re a good choice for those who work with heavy loads. The thing is that the lunacy that they are proponents of wants the rest of us to use public transit or little 2 seater death traps. If they really, truly, believe that increasing carbon dioxide levels will cause a thermageddon, then they shouldn’t use anything heavier that a small Toyota pickup, or a plug-in rechargable car (which makes them feel nice and smug, even though it means that their car is coal powered here in Alberta).
If, on the other hand, it’s OK to use fossil fuels and to use heavy enough equipment to go/do anything required to get the job done, then what is the purpose for their department existing?
It’s like the question of how anthropogenic global warming avoidance meetings have to be held in resorts with hundreds flying in to attend: if they were really serious about their cause then everyone would have to telecommute in order to lower their “carbon footprints”. Until they live their message, they have no right to demand or dictate any changes in lifestyles to the rest of us.
Pretty sure most people here are fans of big trucks.
You have it backwards.
If the U of G in fact has people on board with Ross and Climate Audit, can we say “SDA gets results”?
I’d prefer to say “SDA fills their tank”.
It’s sort of like Price Charles telling the public that they need to take sponge baths occasionally to save fresh water. Of course on the other hand he needs Olympic sized bath tubs and small lakes for duck baths on estates across the UK.
Ummm or Al Gore telling everyone to reduce their carbon footprint but he personally needs a $20K residential electric bill and private jet to “get business done”.
When your “Important” the rules meant for the little people need to bend.
Came across something similar in Washington state a few years ago. Took a pic of an electric truck with all the labelling so you knew it was ELECTRIC, meanwhile a gas generator was running in the bed.
RE: Ross McKitrick on July 1, 2013 10:25 AM
Reading the links Mr. McKitrick left with his comment was quite an experience, particularly the entire comment / discussion on this article:
http://climateaudit.org/2007/11/23/almagre-data/
Recently, I viewed NOVA’s “The Secret Lives of Plants.” I wonder how the discoveries presented here have affected the discussion I read through your link which ended in 2008?
Specifically, it seems to me that the divergence phenomenon in the tree ring data, and or the asymmetric pattern of the rings in the BC pines may be explained through the inclusion or recognition of what I shall call maternal periods and or maternal sides of the trees.
I would further this notion to include the possibility that the hockey-stick phenomena, from the 1960’s on, may well be anthropomorphic and that there is no coincidence between biome wide differences and the advent of the ecological era.
Cheers,
I’ll throw in a lottery ticket with the tank of diesel.
anthropogenic
Oh, OK… So you’re saying the issue isn’t the truck but rather the presumably greenwashed hypocrite in a climate science dept who would rent a fuel efficient diesel truck for field work?
No, I think the oops is here because the the fellows over at Guelf are partaking in, what is being termed, an audit of the dendro record which has been badly distorted, abused, and applied in a potentially misleading fashion by other climate scientists.
Ross McKitrick’s post includes a comment section which includes numerous references to political pressure being applied to scientists in that field along with a lengthy discussion which candidly reveals the shortcomings of the dendrochronology as a proxy record for global temperatures especially from 1960 on.
Essentially, the truck, in all of its true magnificent glory, was more likely driven by an AGW hype opponent rather than a proponent. While the greenwashing can still be presumed, in this case it is not a stain.
Jasper National Park has been using dendrochronology to date some of its historic and perhaps not so historic structures.
Sorry North_of_60, it’s not that it was a rental, nor is it a gas versus diesel thing. Last time I checked, Guelph was in Ontario. There are trains that run from Ontario to Alberta and through the mountain parks. Trains that have a much smaller individual carbon footprint for mass transit than individual vehicles do. They chose to drive instead. And they chose to drive a lot more truck than is needed to take Hwy 1 halfway across the country.
If they really, truly, are concerned that “carbon dioxide pollution” is going to destroy the ecosphere, they wouldn’t do that. Since they don’t seem to care about the impacts of “carbon dioxide pollution”, I chose to not listen to anything they have to say about how mankind is ruining the planet. Because they’re hypocrites. Who drive a lot bigger ride than I can afford.
And how do they afford it? My taxes.