In Britain, it appeared that Nigel Farage and his Reform Party were sailing towards a victory at the next election in a few years. Many right-of-centre Britons had reservations about Farage but realized they had no other way to effect change in their nation. Recently though, a gentleman named Rupert Lowe launched a new party called Restore Britain and many expect them to capture a large amount of support in the coming months and years, sweeping Farage into the dustbin of history.
In Canada, many have questioned if Pierre Poilievre is a real conservative and not merely a placeholder as the junior member of the Uniparty. These suspicions are rising as Poilievre has chosen to criticize, rather than praise, Jamil Jivani for his recent actions to help resolve Canadian/American relations.
I think at this point, the difference between the cons and the libs is pretty much splitting a pubic hair. Both will destroy the country with their policies but one of them will just do it a wee bit faster.
I won’t bother wasting my time vote come the next federal election.
Speaking of pubic hairs … Clarence Thomas is the second longest serving SCOTUS Judge in the History of America. If he serves another 18mos. … he’ll become the longest tenured Justice in history. No wonder the Demoncraps invented a woman (“we believe you, Anita”) who claimed Thomas placed one of his pubic hairs on her Coke can as a shocking display of sexual harassment against subordinate women he wanted to git busy wit.
The Democrats who say “it’s only sex” … have surely weaponized the sex they claim is … only sex. Oh! Except when P Diddy buys cases of baby oil and “trafficks” (read: buy a round trip flight) grown women to get their freak on for fun, entertainment, and profit … because James Comey’s daughters friends prefer rival rap, or something … cause I can’t figure out any other reason why the FEDERAL f-ing government invents so much garbage about sex parties they WISH they were invited to.
I didn’t realize that Clarence Thomas, Anita Hill, P. Diddy and baby oil were so revelant to politics in Canada.
It’s amazing how you can see the phrase “splitting a pubic hair” and immediately connect the dots for us Canuckleheads.
she had me convinced. and a lot of others. l think she even convinced herself
(based on what others were telling her? how *does* that werk???).
now? pffft.
‘believe the woman’ is oh, so, old hat.
PP threw Leslyn Lewis under the bus for meeting with Christine Anderson (and he also disparaged Ms Anderson).
Now he is doing it to Jivani.
Aside from that, he and the ‘conservatives’ voted against conversion therapy. Then his weakness during the freedom convoy.
There are many other examples of why I don’t trust Pee Pee.
He is uniparty.
And, yes, like Frank, I won’t bother voting, either. We are disenfranchised and always have been.
He’s simply being consistently anti-Trump, anti-American … which he hopes will get all the scorpion-voters of Canada to not sting him.
Leslyn Lewis is a real contender and threat for Pee Pee’s post. So far, she doesn’t give a turd what the Legacy bought-and-paid-for media thinks of her. On the other hand, Pee Pee is running scared the kewl kids won’t like him. (Hint. They don’t and never will.)
Mike T,
I agree.
Leslyn has serious advantage if leveraged rightly. Even elbow people would be hit in the funny bone.
However, I think she is too real to cut the deal. The ‘system’ would ensure that she would be dealt with, like some Tamara.
So it goes.
PS. Pee Pee is as redundant as his poindexter glasses. Shhoo, you foo…
“And, yes, like Frank, I won’t bother voting, either. We are disenfranchised and always have been.”
You could do like me, and cast a protest vote for the PPC (or one of the Alberta separatist parties, if you’re out there). Let the CPC know that they *could have* had your vote, but chose not to pursue it.
Or just spoil the ballot with a “None of the above”.
If Pierre Poilievre was truly dedicated to securing the PM position and placing Canada on a recuperative path focused on Conservative principles, he would NOT be commenting negatively towards Jamil Jivani. He would recognize Jivani’s efforts for what they are…frustration.
Poilievre should be the one traveling to Washington very publicly and using it politically to comment on Carney’s absolute bungling of foreign policy issues (most especially with the US). He doesn’t have to portray the visit as a commaraderie with Trump (which is what the Canadian media will try to do). Instead, his message should concise and direct. Something like:
“Look around. The housing market is tanking. Inflation is on the rise. Our Prime Minister can’t get the time of day from the US President. We are teetering on the edge, and I am not inclined to stand around with my hands in my pockets waiting for Prime Minister Carney and the Labor Party to compromise our country based on imcompetence and ego. So, I’m going to Washington DC on a fact finding mission to attempt to understand our current status with the United States more thoroughly. I’d like to know, as I’m sure you would like to know, just what can be done without compromising out soveignty, integrity, and principles to remedy our current relationship and put both countries on a more beneficial path.”
In the Canadian Democracy, it is expected for the opposition leader to meet with foreign dignitaries in order to understand foreign perspectives. I’ve yet to see Poilievre do this in any capacity worth noting. The Opposition leader is, essentially, a cabinet minister of sorts, and it behooves that person to be well informed about what faces his/her nation. There are no legal requirements that would bar Poilievre from traveling to the US and meeting with the Administration. Failing to do this suggests to me that Poilievre is nothing more than someone who enjoys throwing zingers now and again without the seriousness necessary to lead a country. To him it’s a career, not a position.
on top of that, if l know the Donald at all, he would see it exactly for what it was, an overture, a line of communication with someone attempting to ‘make sense’ and ‘understand’ the dynamics. emphasis on COMMUNICATION and not godam showmanship like LIEberal Carnage.
ah if it were to ever happen l would at least know if my Trump instincts are right.
yo. PP. didja get that? well? hmmm?
“on top of that, if l know the Donald at all, he would see it exactly for what it was, an overture, a line of communication with someone attempting to ‘make sense’ and ‘understand’ the dynamics. emphasis on COMMUNICATION and not godam showmanship like LIEberal Carnage.”
Well said.
“Poilievre should be the one traveling to Washington very publicly…”
He should be. That he isn’t is very interesting.
I don’t why he isn’t, but the lack of engagement with Washington seems important. Like there’s some backfield in motion going on, and we plebs don’t get to know what it is. Because it probably won’t be beneficial to us, I assume.
I don’t why he isn’t…
Because he’s merely another member of the uniparty & doesn’t want to upset the apple cart.
“I don’t why he isn’t…
Because he’s merely another member of the uniparty & doesn’t want to upset the apple cart.”
Pure cowardice. He’s deathly afraid of angering the Canadian news media.
“Poilievre should be the one traveling to Washington very publicly and using it politically to comment on Carney’s absolute bungling of foreign policy issues (most especially with the US). ”
100%, Orson. But that would require him to have some testicles, and he clearly does not.
The problem for Canadian conservatives is that they have no representation in politics, and have never had any going back decades.
The best they get are back-stabbing controlled opposition types like Jesuit Jason Kenney, Allison REDford, Special Ed Stelmach, Scott Moe, FF Ford, Brad Wall, Joe Clark, etc.
All supposed conservative leaders are plants. And when an actual conservative movement arises, the fake conservatives join forces with their ideological twins to attacks them.
We do not elect representatives – we are ruled. And have always been so. The thin veneer of democracy, public “education”, and a communist propaganda network is all it takes to keeps the people from revolting.
Hate to give you the bad news but anyone advocating for limiting the power of the government doesn’t stand a chance of leading a federal party much less becoming PM in Canada.
As they say it’s not a flaw, the politics in Canada was intentionally designed that way.
We are a “constitutional monarchy”.
By establishing a legislative process that is by design limited by the people it governs runs counter to the established order of what is actually a colonial style of governance.
We have an unelected hereditary head of state that by law has executive power, but never exercises said power for fear of setting off some “constitutional crisis”. Furthermore said head of state isn’t actually resident in Canada but is appointed. The joke is carried further by the fact that the appointee is selected by the PM that is actually supposed to respond to the executive authority.
But that’s not all, our so called constitution gives equal footing with God. Essentially endowing the government with divine authority. This constitution is also written from the presumption that the government grants rights and does nothing to limit the power of government.
In such an environment where generations of bureaucracy has entrenched itself into the fabric of Canada any talk of limited government will be perceived if not an act of treason but at the very least an existential threat to “national unity”(tm)
So it won’t matter if you could clone Rush Limbaugh and put him in charge of a Conservative Party. The country was created from the ashes of the French colony that could never sustain its existence without constant support of the crown.
So the only way to “fix” it is if you let it run out of other people’s money.
There endith the rant
Prediction: PP will be amongst the first to condemn everyone in Alberta wanting a brighter future to be traitors and evil.
Probably.
By the way, western Canada: if you’re going to separate you probably shouldn’t drag your feet too much longer. I hear your country is adding an immigration sector open for “skilled military servicepersons”. You’re about to get some potential foreign mercenaries in your midst — think they’ll have any trouble turning their guns on you?
It’s in the works with potentially a separation referendum in October.
The place is failing.
Why shouldn’t the controlled opposition be failures as well?
Even if they gained power they’d be forced to fail by the Bureaucracy.
Even if the Bureaucracy got on board with some normalcy, the Public Sector Unions would revolt.
The Propoganda of the Opposition and it’s media wouldn’t allow success even if the Unions fell into place.
Let it fail, let it fall, let it burn, salt the earth so Canadians can finally understand what socialism brings.
“Let it fail, let it fall, let it burn, salt the earth so Canadians can finally understand what socialism brings.”
At this point, I fear that nothing else can possibly work. 🙁
No.
my sense is too oftern PP is doing what his advisers tell him and not what his gut is telling him.
so l await an improved TOUGHER version because, a ‘placeholder’ just dont cut it with me.
l wd rather ‘allowed’ the LIEberals to crap all over the nation some more in hopes that will drive
more votes to the improved version and LOCK IN THE VICTORY.
lve watched Cdn politicians since my early teens in mid 60s. (what a gawdawful sorry lot)
*l know what lm talking about*
A couple of conservative MPs hiding at the back of the house of commons to make sure the Liberal budget would pass last fall was definitely a low point, imo. The animosity between the parties seems no more authentic than professional wrestling. Staged entertainment for the public.
To be fair, there is not much a conservative federal government can do within the westminister parliamentary system, having 4 left wing parties, a Liberal stacked senate and an activist, progressive Supreme Court. Then add in having to always cater to Quebec and Ontario and a hostile, biased media. The Canadian system of government cannot be reformed in any meaningful way to make the country fairer or less oppressive for taxpayers.
Told you back when everyone thought Pierre would be their champion that you probably shouldn’t expect too much (although I do understand voting for him rather than Carney).
They don’t work for you! Never have!
And now you know why my President wanted Carney. We would have had the same problems, just a little harder to deal with because it would have gone more slowly and the western states would have rallied to ‘their boy’, with Pollievre. Carney avoids those problems; plus we can give his own nuts a hard squeeze if we need to.
While I loathe the policies, values & morals of the varying forms socialism that the Liberals and NDP represent, I do respect them for generally standing up for whatever they believe in, at least in appearances.
On the other hand, I have had zero respect for the CPC since Scheer was elected leader over Mad Max. The party is the epitome of hypocrisy and corruption. In all likelihood the CPC was just as corrupt and hypocritical under Harper and even prior but that was before I became red pilled circa 2015.
The only salvation for Western Canada is either independence, which the Laurentian Elite will never allow, or annexation by the United States. Although annexation is unlikely in a peaceful context, I don’t think it would be hard for someone with Trump’s ear to convince him Alberta and Saskatchewan need liberation.
Nope. We’re not invading unless you do something really stupid, and you wouldn’t like that anyway and we probably wouldn’t invade even then, just do some stuff.
If you choose to become part of the U.S., we might let some in, but we’re not invading you.
I know it’s highly unlikely but more likely than Ottawa ever willingly let us go.
Revolution it is I guess
Pretty much.
Protesting (Belly-ackin) will get you SFA except prison, a frozen bank account and a CSIS file.
Remember, Ottawa will call Britain if they feel their own soldiers can’t shoot enough westerners trying to peacefully separate.
Ironically, just like 250 years ago.
The only invasion the US will conduct after a successful independence vote is a platoon of about 30 Marines, to provide security at the new US Embassy in Edmonton.
“ I do respect them for generally standing up for whatever they believe in, at least in appearances.”
Well, if what you believe in is giving away stuff to get elected that they make someone else pay for, that’s not a very steep hill to climb.
Truth be told, if there is a need to have a conservative standard bearer don’t seek for that within the political or bureaucratic sector.
The liberals will go which ever way the wind blows, or present something that allows their base to invoke plausible deniability to support it. Conservative politicians, not the red Tory variety but that rare breed that makes brief appearances before they get Ottawashed, will fight the uphill battle to no avail because the establishment fears anyone that advocates limits on the government and will use any tactic to end their political career. The voter that wants an actual conservative government is disengaged because of how often they’ve been let down by watching their supposed champion either wither under fire or try to gain favour from the other side by walking back their positions.
If we ever expect to get a conservative government the will of the governed needs actually want it.
What you have now is a nation of dependents that believe limiting the government will put them at a disadvantage.
Welcome to my world. Here in CA … we have a supermajority leftist government and bureaucracy. There is effectively NO opposition Party. And the ONLY way this will ever change is the way Argentina finally changed … for the Communists to make so many people poor … than a true hammer-thrower will be elected to smash the system to bits. No half-assed measures will do.
Or … bloody, violent, Revolution.
PP is no hammer-thrower … he’s a smug apple-eater.
Well, you have the benefit of being an American state (a rather significant one, even if your citizens walk around looking like they are blissed out on soma). I highly doubt you’ll be allowed to get to the bloody, violent revolution part…nor do I think Greasepit Gavin is going to be allowed to completely follow through on his plan to hand your state over to the Chinese, much as he’d like to.
Of course, things depend upon the future.
Only when the Suburban “moms” of Palo Alto (west of the 101) and Woodside hipster “moms” with $ multi million portfolios can no longer afford their; personal trainers, landscape architects, gardeners, pool boys, home chef, life coach, travel agent, Rivian lease, interior decorator … to mention a few … will the the hammer-thrower or Revolution take place.
Her HELP will TAKE everything she owns when she can no longer afford their services. Her burned corpse will be discovered in the fetal position in her 400 sq.ft. Closet/Dressing Room. They won’t even bother with ransom demands like they do in Tucson.
THAT’s what the Revolution will look like. It won’t look anything like any historical reference.
oh ya. big time. lotsa scores settled during a revolution that have nuthin to do with the change in regime. there are consistencies in revolutions, one is they are HIGHLY unpredictable.
iran wound up worse than ever,
fwance wound up with a dictator.
roosha wound up with a paranoid psychopath.
chirer got their own mass murderer.
campuchia got their mini me mass murderer.
see whut l mean?
best strategy kp yer mouf SLAMMED SHUT until the winner is decided, and
kp her head down. unless at times the regime creates an unternable
sit’n ya got nuthin ta lose. they took it all.
then all bets are off. make them godam PAY for their highway robbery.
In Britain there will be three “right wing” parties splitting the vote then you add in the Greens and the Lib Dems and Labour will form the government with about ten percent of the vote.
“Can Canadian Conservatives Find a Backbone?”
No.
Dare I say hell no, no way, no hope, no chance.
Because they’re no different that the #Libtards when you get right down to it. A bunch of no-talent dirtbags, standing around with their hands out, waiting for Mommy Government to barf up some money for them.
” …. many have questioned if Pierre Poilievre is a real conservative.”
Heh. Not this old cowboy. He’s a chicken. Just look at his little raised wings.
“Heh. Not this old cowboy. He’s a chicken. Just look at his little raised wings.”
Best comment of the thread… 🙂
`No.
Conservatives of Can Ahh Duh were born without backbones.
We had to destroy the Mulroney Conservative by electing real conservatives..
Real conservatives,Reform Party, Members of Parliament showed us how corrupt and useless Ottawa is.
Most of them packed it in 2 terms or less.
But to form government,Reform had to hold their noses and make a pact with our eastern Progressive Comrades.
Zero reform happened.
I respect those who tried.
I supported Reform,but never believed it could work.
East and West are two different beasts.
Confederated Canada is a kleptocracy.
When so many citizens benefit from ripping off the rest of the citizenry,no policies will change.
Separation is the only choice left to us.
The least bloody way out of the criminal mess we are in.
We have no individual rights or freedoms under Pierre Trudeau’s “Charter of rights and freedoms.
The abuse performed against the Truckers by Justine Trudeau and the subsequent Supreme Court rulings only serve to rub this in.
And The Conservative Party of Can Ahh Duh did not care and does not care.
Not one Conservative Member of Parliament stood with the Truckers,when the Federal Government attacked them..
But Pierre ,their Dear Leader,did deign to fund raise on the backs of the Truckers .
See the federal conservatives calling out the vile lies,of “National Genocide”..any seeking withdrawal of the state lie of “Murdered Indian Children” at residential schools?
See any seeking justice for the Covidian Madness?
Have we got one federal politician who can read a treaty?
Yeah.
Me neither.
Best of the comments:
“FINALLY, all voice of reason from a Canadian. conservatives literally just had to say that they would be willing to make a deal with the us. but no, they couldn’t do it.”
Exactly. That was ALL Poilievre had to do to win, and he couldn’t do it.
Yes, he would have had to explain why the idiotic “Elbows Up!” strategy was a road to ruin for Canada, but that would have been easily done by quoting the appropriate facts and figures. Most Canadians are completely ignorant of what the US could do to our economy if they wanted to (and just how quickly we would feel the pain)….Poilievre could have schooled them without breaking a sweat if he had the balls. A public debate pitting Carney against Poilievre would have been much like the Biden/Trump debate:
Carney: “We will stand up to Trump! Canada will fight!”
Poilievre: “With what, exactly?”
Carney: “We will make trade deals with other countries!”
Poilievre: “That’s great. Wake me up in a couple of years when that starts paying off, if we don’t go bankrupt in the meantime. Oh, and good luck selling electricity and oil to Europe”
Carney: “We will make deals with China! China is huge and powerful!”
Poilievre: “Only if Trump allows it. China will see this as a great opportunity to extract minor concessions from Trump in return for ignoring Canada, while Trump will simply play the “Which market would you rather have access to, the USA or Canada?” card with China, and use that implied threat the same way as he has done in other countries.”
Carney: “You’re a MAGA Trump lover!”
Poilievre: ” No, I’m a realist. You’re a moron”.
(hey, I can dream, can’t I?)