21 Replies to “Jeffrey Epstein Didn’t Kill Himself”

    1. I thought Epstein and his “buddies” were only interested in highly attractive young women … like all those exotic Russian and Eastern European women/girls. How did this Tides whore slip through? She must have had exceptional sexual skills to make up for her face?

  3. I want to make sure I’ve got this right – are commenters seriously contending on this very board that the Epstein story is one gigantic Democrat Party Hoax/Psyop initiated to embarrass Republicans and anyone else who “falls” for it???? And the women are Dem Party/Soros operatives helping to perpetrate this hoax? Is that what we’re saying?????
    I seriously want to know.
    Are there others who think …Meh, just a rich gazillionaire who owned an island and had wealthy friends as well as political connections and who liked to party. No big thang.

    Good Grief.

    1. You didn’t hear a single word Alan Dershowitz said, did you? Oh … IDK … multiple constitutional references, weaponized media accusations, McCarthyism, redaction of adult female participants names, Lawyer $$$ motivation, patently LYING accusers, nothing but “Files” “Files” “Files” … a gigantic FBI scrapbook of accusations without PROOF or a shred of DUE PROCESS. Spewed into the public as if it were all true. It’s NOT. These “Files” should never have been released. And from what I’ve read … almost NONE of it has the ring of truth to it (the only judgement possible when there are NO public trials to hear the evidence).

      Yes, raping a 14yo … and now we’re told 12 and 9yo’s is a horrific CRIME … and anyone who DID that should be locked up and the key thrown away (see: multiple weekly stories of public school teachers diddling thier students). But thus far … I’ve seen exactly ZERO evidence for any of these claims. I’ve seen NONE of the men accused of getting “massaged” by a 9yo getting arrested and put on trial. NONE.

      It’s not about saying “meh” … rich powerful people doing stuff to “victims”. But as Dershowitz said … it’s about TRUTH and FICTION. And the only way we certify the difference is via DUE PROCESS … a TRIAL of the facts. Open, transparent, evidence and testimony. Thus far … we’ve had NONE of it.

      1. Yeah, well, I don’t know how I didn’t see it before but Ol’ Dersh just sealed it for me…this is obviously a Democrat Party hoax/psyop orchestrated specifically to embarrass Republicans and anyone else caught up in this sordid affair. What really bugs me is how I fell for it and shortly after the Pizzagate hoax too. What the hell is wrong with me??? In retrospect I know now that it’s perfectly normal for middle aged owners of a pizza joints and “Washington movers and shakers” to have children and infants on their instagrams and other social media in very suggestive poses and also captioned with inappropriate remarks. Hell…everyone does it. Sorry Mr.Alefantis…my bad. Sometimes “Pizza and walnut sauce” are exactly that…pizza and walnut sauce.

        Frankly this whole mess was staring right at me and well, you know the rest….maybe I was in denial, I really don’t know. I’ll book an appt. with a therapist…he or she can probably help me with this. Maybe there’s other shit out there I’m not seeing. Maybe that Nigerian Prince who phoned me the other day really does have some valid financial concerns. Maybe he really does need my help.
        Truth be told – I’m kind of embarrassed , boy, did I ever get taken on a ride!!!! That was something.
        It’s clear to me now that those photos of Prince Andrew and Virginia Guiffere really were doctored as it was reported by the media from the start but deftly walked back by andy with his “I honestly don’t recall” quip, all this as buckets of sweat oozed out of every pore of his body as if he was in a sauna.
        Nice of Andy as well to hit Queen Mommy up for a cool 15 Million to pay off that grifter too, Innocent people who have more money than God do this all the time. They simply don’t have time to litigtate accusations of schtupping underage girls…it cuts into their ribbon cutting ceremonies. Who needs that action?
        So – I suppose we can discount the latest one of Andy prostrating himself over an eight year old girl as well. All fake, folks. In the words of Elaine Benes…”Fake. Fake. Fake. Fake.
        Those 4 European politicians who resigned because of an Epstein association…one pic featuring U.K. Keir Starmer’s pal in his best “Fruit of the Looms” with an *ahem* youngish looking woman? Get the hell back here you Scamps! We’re only messin’ with you!!!!

        Yeah, quite the misreporting I must say. And really…what did you expect from that face like a catcher’s mitt to say about his former client? Next he’ll tell ya O.J. was innocent.

        So why are there redactions and why are they not releasing the whole tranche??
        Beats the Eff out of me.
        Y’know…given the Democrats penchant for going after Trump for everything and given that this is all a Dem psyop/hoax as some have suggested… why have none of the grifters posing as victims and who I assume are paid by the Democrats to prolong this hoax for maximum embarrassment stepped forward to sue or accuse President Trump of any misdeeds involving them?
        Hmmmmmmmmmmmm…

        1. How old was Virginia Guiffere when she took that HAPPY photo with Prince Andrew? She was 17 years, 7 months old when she took that photo in March 2001.

          Yep, how CRIMINAL for her to be happily smiling that a bloody PRINCE had his hand around her waist. And she claimed that SHE wanted the photo taken to prove to her mom that she was hanging out with … Royalty (from her own memoir).

          Yeah … child trafficking of willing (barely illegal) prostitutes. IF you believe that Andrew was banging her. Psssst … she claimed, then had to retract, that she fkcued Alan Dershowitz SIX TIMES!!! So … as anyone knows … lie to me ONCE and I won’t believe another word you say.

          Now Burton … don’t do what SNOPES likes to do … which is to debunk claims that her photo with Prince Andrew is fake. I’ve never made any such claim. It’s utterly ridiculous. But I will examine the TRUTH of the photo … in her own words … and by the calendar.

      2. 3-2-1 … and Lupus autoimmune Disease will be here saying I’m just repeating the same old tired references to “due process” and “victim blaming” … blah, blah, blah. Psssst … I’d rather be in full agreement with Alan Dershowitz than with the “Epstein Files!” … “Epstein Files!” … “Epstein Files!” parrots.

        Yeah … serial LIARS. As Dershowitz said … they’re FELONS who should be in jail … not fake “felon” Trump

        https://www.businessinsider.com/epstein-accuser-detailed-sex-with-alan-dershowitz-in-unsealed-document-2024-1?op=1

        1. 3-2-1 … and Lupus autoimmune Disease…
          Wow…that’s the kind of shit I’m used to seeing from another commenter on here. Certainly not you.

          1. You’ve obviously not read his serial haranguing comments on my posts. Sometimes … even ‘genial’ posters such as myself have to defend themselves.

            He got butthurt that I publicize getting BANNED from CTH for supposedly ‘homophobic’ comments. Psssst … he’s just making it more obvious “who they are”.

          2. Kenji, you’re the only butthurt one around these parts, repeatedly complaining about this, that and the other.

            Banned from CTH—-check.

            Trump’s DOJ won’t meet my demands for Epstein trials—-check.

            California is taxing me to death—-check.

            etc.

            And there’s this:

            “The LGBTQueer-mutants … are … well … mutants. Freaks. Creepy crawlers. Sick fkcus.”

          3. By the way, you wrote the last bit two hours after you wrote this:

            “… indifference. Don’t know, don’t care. Kinda like my attitude toward the LGBTQueers.”

            BSing hypocrite much.

      1. Yup, or “misreporting” as some are wont to say.
        Epstein pleading guilty in Palm Beach for procuring a child for prostitution this after a parent was outraged enough to go after him because Epstein molested his 14 year old daughter.
        Yup…ya got it all wrong Burton.

      2. I don’t suppose to know what’s being hidden from public view, but all I’m asking for actual prosecutions of crimes. That’s all. And until that happens … I am looking askance at all the “Files” aka mostly garbage gold-digging and/or destructive political LIES. I have to ask why none of these SHOCKING “Files” are actionable? Do you honestly believe that Bondi is strategically protecting pedophiles and child molestorers of the highest rank? I don’t.

        Is there a giant pizza conspiracy? Maybe. God knows the evidence we have about The Podesta’s and the Clinton’s is creepy as hell. Yeah … I lean heavily toward the reality of an underground child porn, child sex trafficking operation. But then WHERE is the FBI? Is Kash Patel in on it too? He’s hiding critical information? That doesn’t fit his profile. Nor Bondi’s. And certainly not Trump’s.

        No, I don’t like being at odds with the likes of Burton and certainly not Kate … but I need prosecutions, truth, and proof. Yes, I’m a Doubting Thomas … I’m a born (and trained) skeptic. Yep, I need to feel the actual wounds to certify my belief.

        1. Yeah I know…you’re all about “DUE PROCESS” – “A TRIAL OF THE FACTS” and “…open transparent, evidence of testimony” or some such. Until such time everyone is innocent, Got it. It’s like Atticus Finch comes to SDA.
          I’d be careful with your words, Kenji…stuff like that might come to bite you in the ass . No more passing judgement on even the most mundane of offenses until…wait for it….”due process” and a “trial of the facts”.
          Consistency is a bitch.

          1. I guess … Innocent until proven guilty is just an American thing. I apologize to my Canadian and British friends. It must be a truly foreign concept.

            I haven’t said you shouldn’t have your own opinion. There’s no law against that. In fact that’s why we sue people and/or file criminal charges. To separate opinion from fact. No, I will continue to opine … and I will be the very first to cheer whatever truth is proven … even if I am found to be wrong

    3. “Are there others who think …Meh, just a rich gazillionaire who owned an island and had wealthy friends as well as political connections and who liked to party. No big thang.”

      That’s my take. That, and lots of teenaged prostitution.

  4. The whole thing is a stupid game. During all this, not once has anyone ever reported on his first trial in Florida or his second in New York. He faced a single charge in Florida. Grand juries failing to indict. Ever heard of that? All a matter of public record. This is five administrations deep, but they want to pin the tail on Trump’s donkey. Who wants to bet?, both Clintons plead the 5th when they are supposed to answer questions.

  5. As this thing goes on and on, there are two things I remain confident of.

    First, and of most importance, this is a “Look, shiny thing!” operation. How upset should I be that rich and powerful men were screwing hookers on an island in the Caribbean? Not very, I think. But here we are, and so many loud voices are telling me that I should care that I’m inclined to not care. If there’s enough fire under the smoke to put #Bill&Hill in cuffs and perp-walk them to jail, then I’ll care.

    Second, I strongly doubt #Epstein killed himself, and I even more strongly doubt that anyone will pay for that. Do we know who killed Jimmy Hoffa? Does it matter?

    I think my attention is much better spent on who is stealing how much money from my taxes here in Canada, who is screwing with our elections, and how can I nail them to a handy wall?

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