93 Replies to “Another perspective on Carney’s Davos speech”

      1. No need to keep elbows up. In fact, I would even drop retaliatory tariffs. Just act like an adult who won’t be intimidated with childish threats.

      1. I don’t see how Trump can bugger Canada without buggering himself at the same time.

        2. “It’s amazing how much leftist discourse is just them pretending not to understand things, thus making discourse impossible.” ~ @MillennialWoes, Feb 21, 2025

    3. So then … you’re on Brad Wall’s and Brian Z’s. side … as they are just hoping to wait-out Trump. Reveling in the fact that America actually changes governments according to The People’s will every 4-years … as opposed to Canada’s eternally-leftist government.

      However … psst … Trump is moving jobs and manufacturing back to America. If you honestly believe that will die with Trump … you’re sadly mistaken.

      So you, Brian, and Brad Wall just keep those elbows out for another 3-years. Good Luck, and thank you for your attention to this matter.

        1. But are you on the Canadian people’s side? And, if you say yes — which you invariably will — are you sure?

          1. Of course I’m not sure my position is the best one. I’m not sure the sun will rise tomorrow.

            Are you sure your position is this right one?

          2. I would say that my position is 1) not really known here because I’ve withheld a lot; 2) is in the best interests of my country and people — and it might not be bad for yours (I don’t begrudge the average Canadian freedom from things like MAID and unemployment, loss of personal rights), certainly better than what you’re cheering for, but at the end of the day that isn’t my concern.

          4. Since I can’t reply to your replies: if you are against those things, then why are you supporting the government that is doing and/or expanding those things?
            Seems a bit counter-intuitive.

          5. I am not supporting the government. I am supporting the government on this particular issue. On the whole, I lean strongly CPC.

            People who are not rigidly partisan on every issue, giving credit and blame where it’s due no matter who is responsible, seem to confuse those who are.

      2. How about going a day without feeling the need to take a personal swipe at me? Huh? Can you do that? Is that too much to ask?

        1. I’m responding to your enthusiasm for an idiotic, counterproductive, suggestion by former politician Wall … to just do nothing and outwait Trump.

          Anyone in Canada who believes that’s a viable strategy … well … Nevermind.

          1. Trump & co are moving so fast at bringing jobs & industry back to the states, the regions where those jobs were taken from will never be able to recover in our lifetime. Even after Trump is gone, it will be bad politics for any president to reverse his economic decisions that were responsible for the return of good paying blue collar jobs. And even if some future American administration wants to negotiate a trade deal that is better for Canada, that will take years to negotiate and millions of dollars in expense because Canadian politicians, bureaucrats, and lawyers notoriously drag their feet to increase their billable hours & justify their expense accounts.

            The USA has already won the economic war against Canada. We’re defeated beyond recovery, whether Brad Wall and the rest of progressive Canada choose to accept it or not.

            The sooner the elbow uppers do accept it though, the better, so we can start earning again, whether that is north or south of the 48th.

          3. “Brad Wall is a conservative. He’s only progressive to far-right populists.”

            LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            Brainwashed zombie to normal translation:

            “conservative” = liberal

            “far-right populists” = non ultra far-left extremists

          4. Brad Wall is a conservative. He’s only progressive to far-right populists.

            Killer Marmot is a Very Smart Person who has somehow never heard of the Overton Window.

            “pretending not to understand things”, etc., etc.

        2. You know, I’m not going to take a swipe at you Brian. Heck, I like you! You’re very useful. So, what’s the plan for the time between when my President is out of office and now? What’s the plan if someone who is sympathetic to his administration’s goals gets into office?
          Let’s game this out, shall we?

          1. “Brad Wall is a conservative. He’s only progressive to far-right populists.”

            He’s a progressive/centrist to every serious person in existence. Only socialists see him as conservative, and like I said, they’re not serious people.

          2. I gathered that, but perhaps he’s of use — to us.
            And I want to hear the game plan! Have some of that respectful dialogue everyone seems to like so much!

        3. Perhaps it is too much to ask him to go a day without a swipe at you. It’s a lot like a day without sunshine. I don’t go out of my way to take swipes at you, but I have to admit they are fun. Nothin’ like zappin’ Zinchuk to make your day!

    4. “Naw, I don’t feel like being intimidated by Trump any more.”

      LOL…like you have a choice?

      1. Yep. You can prostrate yourself before a bully or you can stand on your feet. Your choice.

        Might not win by standing up to Trump, of course. In this ridiculous situation there might not be any winners except America’s enemies.

          1. 1. Stating the truth in Davos.
            2. Diversifying trade relations as quickly as possible.
            3. Refusing to backtrack and apologize when Trump tries to veto a Canadian trade deal.
            4. Government refusing to respond to Trump’s infantile baiting.
            5. Offering to send troops to Greenland (now moot as Trump has backed off).

          2. What truth was stated at Davos?
            And what will those diversified trade deals get you, how quickly will those happen?
            #3 — we’ll see what happens
            Your government has been responding to mine since February of last year.
            Ooooh troops to Greenland! How many and for how long and to what affect? (it would have been worth it to see you do it just for the lolz, like those European troops, high comedy!). And it looks like my President got what he wanted — darn it!

          3. What does Trump get from the Greenland deal? He gets to build more military bases there. That’s a far cry from outright ownership.

            Do you know what else would have gotten him more military bases? Asking politely, making the case that more US bases improves the security of Greenland and all of NATO.

            The way he went about it generated bitterness that will last generations, and it was completely unnecessary.

          4. Again, since I can’t reply to your replies:
            Perhaps he was also after something else — a reaction perhaps? Maybe we don’t need all of Greenland; it would have been a nice thing to have in its entirety to be sure (the Greenlanders might have gotten something out of it too; the Danes would have gotten some money they sorely need), but we appear to have gotten what was essential.

            And we also got some reactions that are proving very useful. Thanks.

          5. What does Trump get from the Greenland deal? What does America get from Puerto Rico? A nation desperate to become a US State? A people utterly dependent on the largess of the American taxpayer? Perhaps that will be Greenland in a few short years … after becoming utterly dependent on American generosity … the PEOPLE of Greenland will be voting THEMSELVES to join the USA? Begging the US Congress to make them a State.

    5. KM, our peerless leaders may not be interested in the plans of the new sheriff in town to clean up the Western Hemisphere, including the Chinese puppet states next door to the United States.

      Unfortunately for them, the new sheriff is very interested in them. And he’s going to find a way to bring them to heel or get them out of the way.

      Intimidation? If you must call it that. Unfortunately, the monsters who lord it over us are never persuaded with moral suasion. They think morality is for fools, slaves and Jews. The only thing that gets them to do the right thing is a credible fear of loss of life, liberty and ill-gotten lucre if they don’t do it.

      You know what monsters fear? Knights in shining armour? They can eat those in one gulp. No. They fear monsters big enough to eat *them* alive.

      You’re not afraid of Trump? You should be. Mark Carney is.

      Turns out a healthy fear of people who can hurt you badly if you act like a spoilt toddler is the beginning of wisdom.

      Children used to learn to fear their fathers early in life. No, it didn’t scar them for life. It kept them alive and out of prison when they grew up. Fathers needed to go back to spanking naughty, ungrateful children yesterday. And the United States needed to go back to overthrowing and killing naughty, ungrateful caudillos and caudillas who bite the American hand that feeds them (and lick the Chinese boot that kicks them) yesterday.

      Live and let live? Nobody really believes that works in this world, KM. Neuther do you. You just don’t like Trump because…

      …well, you tell me. Which funny uncle does the old man remind you of? And where did uncle touch you?

      1. We should recognize and understand the threat that Trump poses. But fear it? Fuck that. We shouldn’t give the bully the satisfaction. And credit to most Canadians, they’re not in fear.

        1. ” And credit to most Canadians, they’re not in fear.”

          No, just in deep denial.

          The Mexican public has a much clearer understand of the situation. They know that poking a pit bull with a stick is only fun until his chain breaks.

          1. The choices right now for Canadians are…

            1. Bow down in fear of Trump, becoming a vassal state or even part of the US.
            2. Face up to Trump’s bullying. There are numerous ways to win, but we could also lose. But that just takes us back to point 1.

          2. The choices right for for Canadians are…

            1. Negotiate with Trump, and continue to prop up the decreasingly soft-socialism we endure in Canada.
            2. Face up to Carney et al’s bullying and the POS’s behind him who are the only true enemies of Canadians, and have been for over half a century. The ONLY ones who actually impede Canadians in every way – their wealth, their health, and their basic freedoms. The ones who prevent us from developing our own resources, the ones who limit how much we may produce, who limit competition, who dictate supply and prices, and who ensure that only THEY profit from every transaction. The ones who maintain the system that makes Canadians pay more for everything on earth than anywhere else in the free world. And the ones who are replacing us with armies of low/no skill 3rd world immigrants.

            Unfortunately far too many Canadians have been programmed by communist outlets like the CBC. They think that they think, but they instead only parrot. They have become braindead zombies mistaking their paraphrasing of state propaganda with original thought.

      2. “Turns out a healthy fear of people who can hurt you badly if you act like a spoilt toddler is the beginning of wisdom. ”

        Wisdom that you will never see from KM and his ‘elbows up!’ crowd. Trump lives rent-free in their heads 24/7, and if he chooses to crush all or part of the Canadian economy they will point at him and shriek “See? SEE?? We told you he was evil!!”. What they *won’t* do is ever take any responsibility for goading Trump into such actions, when all they had to do was grant his three very reasonable requests instead.

        They know they can’t win. They know that all their plans to ‘stand up’ to Donald Trump are fantasies. They don’t care what happens to Canada as a result of their idiocy, because they actually hate Trump more than they love Canada.

        1. Sorry, but Trump’s attempt to make me (or most Canadians, it seems) fear him have failed. There’s just not much fear out there. Wary of him, damn rights. But he’s going to have to find a source of fear somewhere else.

          But Canada can surely win against Trump. There are numerous ways. One is that Trump declines so badly physically or mentally that he is no longer a threat. Or that either the courts or congress rein him in by making it difficult or impossible for him to unilaterally impose tariffs. Or that some major event distracts Trump so much that he hasn’t time to worry about his empire building. Or that he starts losing his base due to his inability to address core issues like inflation, leaving him in a weakened position. Or that Trump simply can’t see a way to punish Canada without seriously harming the US itself. And on and on.

    6. How could you feel intimidated, seriously ?
      How ?
      You must have been very insulated from Canadian life the last twenty years.
      Childish threats.
      Jesus Killer …..
      Canada has become Chum in the water so to speak, it’s been awhile coming . But Red Tories and progressive Globalists sitting in the boat , don’t really have anything of real value in the game.
      My only hope is I live to see the moment the gig is up, and a politician or two have p— running down their legs,for the right reasons.
      They aren’t threats it’s the kind of respect a Post National State deserves, sadly we earned it.

        1. You don’t get it do you buddy.
          The country I love and cherish , wouldn’t have let themselves be chum in the first place.
          Without a doubt they wouldn’t have .
          The courage lies in honoring that.
          And I will always stand with those that are individuals with a strong primal moral compass.

          1. You keep thinking this all about Canada and its faults. Trump is an avenging angel wreaking punishment on Canada for its sins.

            It’s likely nothing like that. Trump knows he hasn’t much time in this world, and he’s worried about his legacy. He wants to be known as the one who massively expanded the Amerian empire, its version of Catherine The Great. And Canada is a plum target. He may have even thought that Canada would collapse like a house of cards.

  2. As Brad Wall’s son, Colter, says in one of his great cowboy songs….
    “Go about your earthly mission, and don’t trust no politician.”

  3. The Liberal government needs to take notes on how other countries have successfully negotiated with Trump. Being obnoxious and sniping at him isn’t working at all if the goal is to get an acceptable deal. The problem is, of course, the Liberals aren’t interested in negotiating an agreement that helps Canada in the long term. Their only interest is getting a majority, a short term interest that benefits the Liberals.

    1. The Canadian government hasn’t been obnoxious and sniping at Trump. They’ve been admirably restrained. They’ve refused to engage Trump in his own style, which I think is what Trump is looking for, The Davos speech didn’t even mention the US or Trump by name. It did, however, aptly describe the new world order.

      1. Sorry, swing and a miss.
        LC and Wall’s point was playing the long game.
        Buddy the dummy and many others here have also written as much.
        Climate Doomers are like that – it will always be cold when its cold or it will always be hot when its hot.
        Nope, the world turns.
        Its just the season.

      2. “… aptly describe the new world order …”

        What an odd statement coming from a “ true conservative”? A true believer in the NWO. Your mask is slipping.

      3. Yes, they have been obnoxious,. Starting with Trudeau when he was PM. Carney approved Ford’s ad. Then the Davos speech. The government funded media, who get their marching orders from the Liberals, have had numerous obnoxious columns and political commentary. That’s a partial list. It’s really only been Premier Smith and perhaps Moe who have had productive meetings with the Trump administration. Learn from successful negotiators not failures.

        1. Ford ran an ad making the case for free trade. Trump was never even mentioned. By Trump’s standards, this was obnoxious.

          Meanwhile Trump openly insults countries and their leaders on a daily basis in the most juvenile manner imaginable.

          If you want to take someone to task for obnoxiousness, I recommend you train your guns on the real problem.

          1. I think everyone could figure out what Ford’s message was, it wasn’t subtle. Same with Carney’s Davos speech. Being too cute by half and pretending otherwise is game playing. The passive aggressive behaviour isn’t working. Other countries and provincial premiers have used better strategies. Part of the art of diplomacy is figuring out how to negotiate with all types of personalities.

          2. Well no one has to guess at Trump’s meaning. He’s openly contemptuous and insulting. And so many here then rebuke his victims when they make even the mildest response.

            As I’ve said previously, I disagree with Carney’s government on many issues. But not this one. He’s giving a master class on how to deal with Trump; namely always be the adult in the room, but also be honest and don’t be intimidated. This, of course, might drive Trump apoplectic. It already has. But then Trump overplays his hand, for example by threatening 100% tariffs on all Canadian imports. This whittles away at Trump’s support at home, as an increasingly number of Americans realize that Trump is as mad as a box of frogs.

          3. We’ll have to agree to disagree. Carney isn’t making progress and if negotiations go badly then Canadians suffer while he flies back to one of his other home countries. If Carney can’t get the job done himself then he needs to find people with better Trump specific negotiating skills.

      4. New World Order ?
        That was coming out of Carney’s mouth.
        You know the progressive guy….. Wooden spoons, paper straws , and mud huts for the serfs if he could get away with it.
        No Killer your wrong, they can tolerate anything except a world leader not following the herd.
        Ya he’s a bull in a China shop , but the same old same old gets stale down right corrupted eventually .
        There was a shake up coming sooner or later anyways.
        Will see what your take is if Carney gets his majority, and goes full tilt progressive….. If nobody stands in his way.

        1. Mexico’s advantage is smarter politicians. They know what side the bread is buttered on.

    3. They haven’t. He’s successfully negotiated with them.

      Once Nicolas Maduro was in US custody, both the other Chavistas and the leftist government of Mexico’s Claudia Sheinbaum (a granddaughter of Lithuanian communists who claims to be a Jew) folded like cheap suits.

      Claudia and the judges she thrust onto the bench in a flurry of ballot box stuffing are handing cartel kingpins over to US authorities so fast their heads are spinning. Needless to say, her anti-American base are livid. Her anti-American base weren’t looking at a long vacation Stateside if they didn’t get serious about dealing with the cartels.

      The real question is why Mark Carney hasn’t gotten the message yet. Does he think he’s untouchable because he’s White and used to work for Goldman? Or did being called Governor Carney just get his Irish up and make him stupid?

  4. Here’s one thing the Davos probably achieved: It’ll make it easier for Canada to enter into trade agreements with other countries. It was a call to middle powers — we can hang together or we can hang separately.

      1. “Correction: mediocre powers. There, I fixed it for you.”

        You got that right. All those ‘middle powers’ are completely at the mercy of the larger ones, and they know it.

        1. No one is “completely at the mercy”. The US is powerful but not all powerful. And Trump is (at least in theory) constrained by a division in powers. This may well come to the fore in the coming months.

    4. “Middle powers” is a polite term for geopolitical has-beens, never-weres and were-never-going-to-bes.

      It’s the same sales pitch as the one for the “non-aligned movement”—which itself was mostly a club for countries whose leaders didn’t want to make their pro-Soviet or pro-Red-Chinese sympathies obvious enough to make them unwelcome in Washington.

    5. Your afraid of the country hanging? Bet alot of people in here already feel the country they grew up in , has been raped and burned quite awhile ago.
      Oh and fk the EU.

  5. Brad Wall mentions that Trump will be gone in 3 years…
    In 3 years the United States will have a new president, the CBC will have articles on what the USA will look like post Trump, how finally the healing can begin… I think future President JD Vance will live just as rent free in Canadian’s brain bags as the current president does. So the next 11 years of Republican presidents is just the thing which tier 2 Canada needs in order to attempt to belittle and make fun of, while every week in Canada the Canadians are less well off because of their own garbage government, and their long list of laws which inhibit freedom.

    Good luck Canada.

    1. Kanadians don’t seem to get the fact that Demoncraps don’t think very highly of them either.
      Obama’s girl, Janet Napolitano, pointed out the northern border as a threat. But that was okay because she wasn’t GOP.

  6. That first speech in Davos is like a comedy skit where the self-proclaimed tough kid is telling all his friends how he’s going to totally take out that other kid. Destroy him, even. Then he stops when reading the expressions on his friends.

    “He’s standing behind me, isn’t he?”

    That group of friends (EU) just showed their acumen for economics a few days ago. The unelected bureacratic officials signed into law that it is now illegal for EU members to import Russian petroleum products. They, then, confirmed that they would be making up the difference of this loss by buying petroleum products from India. What they didn’t say is that India gets most of their petroleum products from Russia. So, instead of buying directly from Russia, the EU had decided to install their own middleman/ intermediary to purchase from Russia. This, of course, increases the cost and doesn’t negate the fact that they are buying indirectly from Russia.

    That’s who gave Carney his standing ovation at Davos.

  8. L – “Trust but verify!” – Pres. Ronald Reagan, a politician, who had a healthy scepticism of politicians, likely based on experience. Most people can be trusted and earn that trust, but not everyone falls into that category.

    Brad Wall is in a position to be a statesman, even though, he got bamboozled about ivermectin during the Panic-demic. Few politicians can stand up to the Cult. Marxist capture of the bureaucracy. The most important topic, that we are not talking about is the difference between a self-governing nation-state of Canada and the post nation-state globalist empire of oligarchs.
    The one that the current cabal running the current E.U. and the U.K. and Ottawa since 2015. It’s the “New World Order” the W.E.F. dream. Historically reoccurring and referred to as the Tower of Babel.

  9. “wonderfully written & well delivered speech” really?!? PP I think also said something similar.
    I strongly disagree. It was frankly unwatchable and excruciating, like someone self-harming live. And Carney’s charisma + delivery? Zero, as always. Uhs/uhms even more than Blackie.

  10. “Trump will be gone in 3 years.”

    President Trump will leave office in January 2029 to enjoy a well-earned retirement from public life. The movement to make America great again will long outlive Donald Trump. I doubt Canada as we know it will.

    And even if it does, the men most likely to succeed President Trump in the White House—JD Vance and Marco Rubio—have made no sign whatever of abandoning the MAGA program. If anything, they’ll go farther and be much less forgiving than the boss.

    If you’re a Red Chinese asset in Ottawa, much less Havana (or one of the Libranos’ masters in Beijing), you should be praying the God you claim doesn’t exist for Donald Trump to outlive you. The next guy, from your perspective, will be much worse.

    Me? I’m looking forward to watching a few good men score a direct hit on the Chinada Province HQ of the CCP—and of President Rubio’s entering Havana to a hero’s welcome while Comrade Diaz condemns the imperialists from the US prison cell he shares with Mark Carney.

  11. Canadian media and elites have been reflexively anti-American for many decades. Some fellow geezers may remember Gordon Sinclair, a noted Canadian radio personality, paying unusual tribute to Americans in 1973. It represented a very controversial viewpoint by talking about self-righteous smug Canadians.

    https://youtu.be/z4i3LmR0K74

    1. “Canadian media and elites have been reflexively anti-American for many decades.”

      That’s just our national inferiority complex. It’s natural for us to be jealous of the US and all the personal freedom, economic prosperity and patriotism they enjoy.

  12. I took Carney’s speech to be mostly a statement of the obvious, the world is changing and moving towards more of a regional superpower spheres-of-influence system than it was previously, although I would say the amount by which it has changed in that regard is probably rather slight. I am quite sure his references to old or new world orders were not meant to be taken in blogosphere style but just in the sense of current and previous world orders. He wasn’t consciously paying homage to Davos and the “new world order” of the Bush-41 speech around 1990.

    Some of the reverse-color-revolution folk who surround El Donalde Grande pounced on the speech and the big deal for canola oil and golf carts (electric cars if you must), as “proof” that Canada was now entirely a colony of Beijing and a spanking was overdue. Well I will volunteer to be spanked by Kristi Noem, if that has to be our fate. It’s getting tedious really, these over-reaching gosh-this-is-terrible pronouncements about Canada. Some miserable old codger decides to opt out with M.A.I.D. and it’s a new socialist holocaust. We send some surplus cooking oil to China and we’re going down the yellow brick road with Mao. We phone up a NATO colleague and we’re conspiring to undermine American border security. I mean c’mon, everyone knows what’s going on here, the hawks are circling because they smell blood and see good things to eat. Nothing new there, if Canada wanted to be eaten alive there would be no shortage of takers.

    Things will muddle on for years and years. Alberta will probably do the Quebec double and not quite leave. The climate will continue to warm incrementally and boffins will panic more and more. I have to laugh at this notion — the warmer climate is creating more snowstorms. What we need to do is cool down the climate so we can have (wait for it) more snowstorms. You know, it boggles the mind how anyone could get anxious about such a situation.

    1. Support for Alberta independence is so far in the minority. Most polls are between 18% and 30%, with none approaching majority.

      I suspect that If Carney (1) moves quickly on more pipelines heading east or west, and (2) scales down provincial transfer payments, especially to Quebec, then the movement would lose all traction.

      1. If you believe Carney will do one or the other if he has any choice, you’re even more deluded than I thought. The transfer payments to Quebec City will end when Ottawa runs out of Alberta’s money or Washington finally lets Ottawa have it, whichever comes first. Not a day or hour before.

        1. Yeah, you don’t know that. I’ve seen tons of things that “coudn’t happen” in Canadian politics.

  13. 5. Offering to send troops to Greenland (now moot as Trump has backed off).

    Does this sad comment from a few above.
    Remind anyone of the mindset during COVID ,?I’ve heard it out in the hinterland too.
    And my reply is ” good let the tolerant nice people fight”, They get the point and it’s priceless they actually shut .up.

  14. I have to laugh at this discourse we get from some American observers, we can’t sell our stuff in America until we meet never-totally-specified goals and objectives, and we know we never will meet them because the real agenda is to destabilize our economy and pick off the best portions afterwards. But if we then start looking for other places to trade, then we are held to be communists, socialists, globalists, giving away our sovereignty to the trading partners.

    I wish they would just be honest and say, we don’t like you, never did, never will, and we want your land and your resources. We don’t want you, so you figure out what that means, you already have that M.A.I.D. capability, maybe just expand that to everybody and save us the bother.

    Until recently, I went out of my way to be friendly and open to dialogue with Americans. But you cannot please those arrogant pricks. They think they are doing us a favor by posting here too, like we are the stupid little children they see on South Park and they are the adults in the room. Adults who routinely solve every problem with gunplay. I’m sick and tired of it, and I’m not even a patriotic Canadian, this country has jerked me around more than any other person I know. So I can spot b.s. a mile away. I should say five miles away because that’s where I am relative to the U.S. border. There’s a few nice people down there, who aren’t into politics. But as to both sides in the culture war, it gets worse and worse every year and neither side is reasonable nowadays. It looks like cultural civil war may lie ahead. That’s a failure of the political systems we created and maintained for decades. There are a lot of people one can blame for all the animosity between political types nowadays, it’s like the gang conflicts, you wish there was some way both sides could lose.

    I never bought into the Putin controls Trump narrative and I still don’t, but I would say that Trump or at least some of his advisors have noted that Putin can do pretty much whatever he pleases, no matter how irrational, because of his threat to use nuclear weapons. I believe the U.S. are now toying with this approach, trying to find out how frightened other nations are by the prospect of facing their military (beyond just nuclear). They tried this on with Denmark and it may be that Canada will get this treatment several more times. I think the best approach is to dawdle, do nothing and wait until the next election, figuring that either way the next president will be a bit more predictable and perhaps even more reasonable. This tactic of always shifting goalposts, streams of verbal abuse, and unpredictable behavior, is associated with two kinds of people, bad bosses, and abusive partners (or parents). So I guess we should not be surprised.

    1. Peter darling, I think I could turn your comments about my countrymen around and use it against Canadians.
      And Putin has gotten a pretty free rein to do whatever he likes, so has Xi. Why should my country have to play by your obviously arbitrary rules? Especially since the last few years has shown my country just what anti-American, arrogant pricks (your words about us) you are.

  15. If you think of the speech in terms of the Liberals stoking the fire of the national moral panic to increase their chance of winning a majority government, it makes sense.

    Carney’s primary responsibility is to get a majority government for the Liberals, not solve trade disputes.

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