A lot more needs to fall into place before Quebec independence is a done deal, but with any luck we may finally bring decades of frustrating indecision to a solid conclusion.
But the immolation of the Quebec Liberals only solidifies the likelihood that the Parti Québécois will sweep the province’s 2026 election. Once in power, PQ leader Paul St-Pierre Plamondon has promised he will be pulling out all the stops to hold a third referendum on secession from Canada. Quebec’s incumbent government, led by the Coalition Avenir Québec (CAQ) under François Legault, is currently plumbing new depths of unpopularity.
The threat of Québec separation was and always will be for extortion. If a Québec referendum were to result in a clear majority for separation, the PQ would say, “Now what the hell do we do?”
Not just Quebec, the maritimes would be isolated from the rest of Canada. Do they petition to join the US? Would the US have them?
Historically, the northern half of Quebec was part of the bribe involved at some point in confederation and Quebec will have to give it back if they separate. If you look at the new Northern route of the Trans Canada in Ontario you can run a straight line along the boundary of the former Rupertsland to Labrador. Of course Quebec would have to agree to give up all their hydro.
They will never separate. Why should they when they can make a fuss and get lots of attention while sucking on the teat of the rest of Canada?
“They will never separate. Why should they when they can make a fuss and get lots of attention while sucking on the teat of the rest of Canada?”
Exactly. The free ride would be over, and they know it.
Just inform them that they will leave Confederation with the same territory that they had when they entered it….then ask them how they intend to support themselves as a nation.
There is no teat. Canada is over, done, finished and good riddance. Quebec separating might be the thing that ends the illusion of this mountain of debt, corruption and cowardice masquerading as a nation. Bring it on.
Right on Peter!
I’m hoping if we get to the point where they are again, having a referendum, we must do everything possible to assist the separatists.
EVERYTHING!!
“the maritimes would be isolated from the rest of Canada.”
Alaska is isolated from the rest of the US. Geography doesn’t matter.
Plus, Ottawa would keep that voting bloc and fly in money.
Jesus, Quebec has been threatening to secede for longer than I can remember, (and I’m no spring chicken). After a century, the arrogant frogs still think they’re better than regular Canadians and refuse to assimilate? Fine! Call their bluff. If they’re not happy being good Canadians, cut them loose and tell them not to let the door hit them on the ass on their way out! Good riddance!
And hell yeah, we’ll take the maritime provinces. Americans view good Canadians as brothers. We’ll welcome all y’all. And Quebec can flounder along as it’s own inconsequential pissant country that nobody gives a shit about.
If Quebec holds a referendum, the rest of Canada should be allowed to hold a simultaneous referendum on whether Quebec will be allowed to stay. And its results supersede whatever Quebec voters decide.
I can’t see us being worse off without this bottomless pit for western subsidization via equalization payments.
“If Quebec holds a referendum, the rest of Canada should be allowed to hold a simultaneous referendum on whether Quebec will be allowed to stay.”
If only any Canadian politician had the courage to say so…
Excellent news. I look forward to election night in Quebec. I can only hope and pray that the excellent leadership of the bloc and pq will continue.
Who cares about the maritimes. A bunch of non contributing province who just leech off the productive parts of the country.
Let them go. The us will pick them up and give them a new home.
Go go go Quebec.
I don’t think I could to cheer for the Quebec Canadiens!
Leave Quebec, leave!
Absolutely! Quebec is a culture of corruption like Mexico and INdia. Get rid of Quebec, get rid of bilingualism which was a tool to put Quebec in charge of Canada (you can’t become bilingual unless you are French Canadian having learned English) and we can rid of most of the corruption in Ottawa.
Hopefully AB and Sask. are able to separate before the promised separation referendum in Quebec. The PQ have said they’ll have a vote on this within the first 2 years of their gov’t, (Quebec support for separation is 59% no to 31% yes at the moment) and they were leading the Quebec provincial #Libranos by a near to 2:1 vote indicating a landslide only 2 weeks ago, they’ve slid a bit since then but they’re currently well into majority gov’t still.
https://338canada.com/quebec/
I have no idea what the Atlantic provinces will do, I suppose “whatever they want” would fit but Ontario/Manitoba/BC are not in a position to extend the intergenerational welfare benefits to those areas after AB/Sask. leave. I doubt the USA with the Republicans in gov’t would welcome the 4 provinces even as 1 larger province as it’ll be solidly Democrat and nobody needs that. The 3 Atlantic provinces gain 20% of their gov’t revenue from “equalization” payments though NFLD is doing better, that’s going to take some adjustment while getting used to that.
Maybe the Atlantic provinces should consider being their own country as well? I think it is probable that BC will go its own way too, crushed by their impeding debt bomb. What remains of Canada may only be Manitoba and Ontario. All of them fighting to control their own sphere of influence and not compromising on issues such as interprovincial trade. Exactly as it is now.
I expect 2 referendums in AB in 2026. Separation in the autumn, and Premier Smith mentioned AB control of immigration within Canada, while looking at the problem of 1000’s of people flooding medicare and schools with costs without any tax input from them. Maybe both at the same time? Who knows…?
If AB/Sask. separate, no doubt the remaining provinces will have difficulty forwarding equalization payments to all of the “have nots” especially the $13 Billion forwarded to Quebec. Will that influence Quebec’s separation vote? I suspect it will, though within Canada their influence and government representation in the House and Senate would be enhanced, perhaps the only way to know is to try it out, see how this theory plays out…
Then Canada can begin anew by writing a new constitution where they can do away with that “notwithstanding clause” … something for Sask to consider, they love the notwithstanding clause too…
The premise of a bad break-up,
the metaphor of an “ugly divorce” in a broken family with hurt children,
is yet more intentional and juvenile manipulation by the Liberal Party of Canada
to control the narrative.
Albertans would be wise to refrain from this particular metaphor
replacing it in the minds of all Canadians with the idea of natural maturation,
a fantastic flight from the nest to be celebrated by the Parents,
a healthy and ultimate act to be emulated by the Siblings.
Any Canadian 51st state crap will never happen under a republican administration. We would be offered status as a territory, no senators, no electoral votes. And no democrat administration would push for it.
You seem to have forgotten that many Republicans don’t care for Trump. They hold their noses and fall in line because they have no choice. I believe that if Canadian provinces wanted to join the US, Trump would make sure they got full statehood.
Where do I sign up to vote?
If you want a ‘yes’ vote, contact an American Democrat, for tips on how to rig a vote.
Remember, it’s not how many votes you count, but rather who counts the votes.
Always promising a good time but never delivering.
Better get busy…more “outsiders” in Quebec than there were in ’95
If I thought they would really eff off, I’d cut them a cheque. Same goes for Trawna.
At least Paul St-Pierre Plamondon isn’t a homo like the last guy who tried the separation referendum.
I didn’t think the Pepsis wanted to have a terd packer as the father of their new country.
Anyway, I hope the Froggies succeed and I’m waiting for them to repay Alberta all of the dirty PetroDollars they stole to build their hydroelectric project.
Another Quebec vote to go?
How soon? Very, with luck.
Hope they go! Maybe then they will grow up and the dildo of reality will smack them, good and hard.
No more $14 Billion annual transfer.
No more Federal Liberal government, as Quebec loses all their MPs and Senators, every last one.
Conservatives, if they act conservative, will turn this country around, allowing pipelines, cutting the extreme welfare payments, etc cutting bilingualism.
Seems all upside here. They need any help to leave the building?
The Maritimes? They will have to grow up and stop being lifelong welfare societies. The US won’t want them either, for obvious reasons.
Bye Quebec, and hurry out!
The PQ have said a separation referendum will be held within 2 years of the PQ being elected. Their provincial election is expected in October 2026
See yea, don’t let the door hit you in the–arse. They can pay their share of national debt, and forgo any future transfer payments and run their socialist’s utopia on their terms. We can forge rights via natives on unceded land to travel across Canada.
Perhaps there is another way this should be looked at: is it that Quebec wants to stay and ride the gravy train? Perhaps; they have done a very good job of it given the limits of what they can do.
But, what if it’s the other way around? What if it is your government that has always maneuvered to keep Quebec in? And if so, why? For a province that does so little and takes so much…
Maybe we’ll find out.
That’s an easy one.
Look at the Federal seat count
If you remove the seats in Quebec from the House of Commons the conservatives have a majority.
If the west left the liberals would be a permanent majority
That’s why they don’t care about western separation
L – Shaun Newman interviews Vesper, a Quebec analysis ensues. The Bloc/PQ plan to prepare for the next P.Q. Independence Referenda, is to avoid what narrowly lost them the last one. It’ based on “Politics is downstream from culture.” Nudge psychology….
https://podtail.com/en/podcast/shaun-newman-podcast/-969-vesper/
Dream on, folks. The feds will bribe them to stay cause they are essential to Liberal’s power.
Regardless of what the outcome might be we all know what Ottawa’s response will be to the potential of losing 75 seats in Parliament….particularly the seats on the island of Montreal
However doing so would convince the west it’s time to leave
Why would K-bec walk away from a country they run?
Always reminded of the old joke: It’s the Newfoundlanders that want Quebec to separate, because it will cut the driving time to Toronto in half!
A perfect example of the cultural divide of East and West.
The East will keep on threatening to leave for ever,while demanding more handouts from the rest of Canada.
Right now they have $14 Billion reasons to hang around.
The West will act on their promises,most of us being done with Ottawa and the Eastern Voters who enable Can Ahh Duh.
I’m done..
Have been for years.
Dread Covid Theatre was just the icing on the shit cake.
Can Ahh Duh is a lie.
Has been since 1968.
And the West has $ billions of reasons to free ourselves from this corrupt and criminally insane confederation .
Incentives matter.
Quebec has incentive to blackmail Canada,because it pays.
Western Canada has incentive to set Ottawa and Quebec free , because the payoff is huge.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, if you really want to leave let every Canadian have a vote.
If this did happen the feckless left would find a way to let them rape us financially on their way out the door, leave us with their portion of the national debt, etc.