81 Replies to “Did Mark Carney Just Lose the Election?”

  1. No. Liberals are going to say peeper was mean and talking over him and you don’t understand BoC targets. Plus this Viva gay guy is a retard.

    1. Yep.

      My own wife and father both spat the, “too right wing” line at me yesterday. I suspected my wife was feeling that way but she hadn’t said it yet. My father took me by some surprise, but in hindsight there have been some clues that he’s as politically ignorant as your typical Canadian.

      It’s all over but the counting. Liberal majority incoming. This country simply does not want anything other than what Liberals tell them to want. We’ve become far too stupid to be entrusted with a democracy, and we’re effectively losing it, turning ourselves into a de facto one party state.

      1. And DJT now knows Carnage will be a total pussy to deal with. Slapping Carnage around will be easier than punching empty air.

      2. Yes I.M., that’s why Canada keeps losing its elections.

        Liberal Party of Canada delenda est.

  2. But, but, but … Carney said his policies resulted in only a 2% inflation and your dollar was at “parity”.

    Pssst … I got a 30% discount for my daughter’s wedding in Vancouver in 2018. I’m guessing that was when Carney was claiming some such nonsense about his Trump-like inflation and valuation of the Canadian dollar. What a LIAR

    1. Carnage not knowing which foot to stick in his mouth first, does not change the fact that you completely don’t understand inflation and exchange rates. I have explained it to you already.

        1. I know you really are starved for attention, and I hate to break it to you but: wrong thread.

          1. You’re such a disappointment, Jessica.
            I’m sure you’ve heard that enough from the poor unfortunates that spawned you.

            Anyway, I’m off to bed.

            Keep ’em waxed, Jessica!

          2. “Anyway, I’m off to bed.”

            You do that, the hangover tomorrow will be enough, … and then you will realize that you have shared your drunken fantasies about my balls with the whole Internet. Ouch.

      1. Here’s all I need to know … the cost of my daughter’s wedding was the greatest DEFLATION of REAL costs I have ever experienced in my life … I got bookoo of shit for damn near FREE!

        You wanna argue dictionary definitions of abstract economic terminology? Go ahead, knock yourself out. All I know is that every single attendee of our ‘open bar’ wedding had the time of their lives.

        1. I am happy the wedding was great. Congrats. This had nothing to do with inflation in Canada though. I have explained it before.

          1. Pssst … I never said a thing about INflation in Canada … I said that your weak dollar put everything on SALE … for ME … and my BEEG American dollar. It’s really not a difficult concept.

          2. Facepalm.
            Why is the dollar weak?
            Hint: the word you’re looking for starts with a letter I?

          3. Hmmm, starts with “I”… what, you’re blaming Israel for this? Jeez, you’ve always been a creep but you’ve never sunk this low…

    2. Carney lied about inflation during his oversight in Canada and the UK. Our wallets knew better.

    3. Those were the result of a Harper Conservative government, of which PP was a member of cabinet. He needs to take credit for those good times. All Carney did was sail a ship in calm waters.

      1. Carnage’s incompetence emerged when he took over the BoE. He didn’t have Flaherty to bail him out any more.

      2. All of your political parties have to take a bow for their performance in “how Canada came to be where it’s at today”.
        There’s plenty to go around.

  3. I think Viva conditionally right. The condition being that Canadians are watching this and using their brain. Lemme tell ya, the very fact that some Canadians are even thinking of voting Liberal means that it’s not happening. Not with the media pushing for Carney.

    1. “I think Viva conditionally right”

      Perhaps, but I don’t understand the appeal of a guy commenting on a video debate in real time.

      “Did you hear that?? Well, no, Viva, I didn’t…because you were *talking over them* while I was trying to listen.

  4. The debates are about the 5-10% of undecided voters in the middle, thus this debate may well have damaged Carnage and help Pierre considerably.

  5. The paid media did not report on when the debates would occur until the last minute. Google colluded. I’ll bet few watched in B.C., as it was 4pm here, 7pm Montreal time, especially our many “new” Canadians, and especially those (moms) who never bothered to learn English or French, and raise children with heavy accents.

    1. But unlike in previous years the entire debate can be viewed online at your pleasure.
      It’s a long weekend and folks will have idle time on their hands.
      The 5-10% that will see this will have the following reactions
      If they tend toward liberal Carney’s performance will be a disappointment as they watched Poilievre humiliate him.
      If they tend toward conservative their enthusiasm increased for same.
      Carney was already running a huge enthusiasm deficit and this does nothing to change it.
      One of two things (or both) will happen over the next week.
      The liberals will play the abortion card and will start begging the NDP voters to lend them their vote.
      The NDP will chime in about keeping the conservatives from getting a majority.

  6. Poilievre spoke well, and trounced Carney (although that’s a low bar to clear). But I wonder how many people noticed his “under America’s thumb” line? Disappointing, to say the least….he’s running against Trump, just like Carney and Singh are trying to do.

    1. It appears to have been a slip up; it likely won’t hurt him with Canadians.
      This debate will tighten up the race by the few remaining percentage points to be had, so it wasn’t a bad performance by Pollievre.

      1. “It appears to have been a slip up; it likely won’t hurt him with Canadians.”

        That’s the saddest part, Jane…

        1. Responding as an American, I wouldn’t worry too much about it. We certainly aren’t.
          Yes, it would be very nice if Canadians would come to their senses a bit — you are just going to damage yourselves by keeping up with the anti-Americanism. Is it damaging to us? Yes, it always has been, but you are really not in any position to throw down any gauntlets on us, so it hurts you more. We’ve known about this for quite some time.

          In the end, both Carney and Pollievre will have to make a deal with Trump or risk quite a bit. Carney would be more fun to slap around; that’s no lie, but if Pollievre’s recent comments are not campaigning and a true statement of intent, then slapping him around will be rather fun too. Notice that with Pollievre this is a question, a possibility; Carney is a future truth.

          1. ” Is it damaging to us? Yes, it always has been, but you are really not in any position to throw down any gauntlets on us, so it hurts you more. We’ve known about this for quite some time.”

            All intelligent people do.

            “In the end, both Carney and Pollievre will have to make a deal with Trump or risk quite a bit. ”

            Canada vs the US is very much like the yappy little chihuahua nipping at the heels of a pit bull but *never quite touching it*. Trump would be justified in making the new PM beg for mercy.

            (he won’t, but he could…)

  7. The reaction guy is soooo utterly annoying. Just let the clip speak for itself. “That was cray cray”??? Jeepers.

    1. totally agree…….I am trying to listen to the video and VIVA is yapping about this or that………
      QUIT DOING THAT………….it is totally ANNOYING……….

  8. The debates aren’t that important.
    The under 40 crowd ain’t watching.

    Liberals are gonna vote Liberal. That’s what they do because they’re got herd intelligence.

    Conservatives are going to vote conservatively, but not necessarily for the Conservatives because they’re more individuals.
    In my opinion, the hardheaded – including myself – should relent and vote Large C Con and let us at least breathe for a bit.

    The NDP quacks have a window-licking short bus rider as a Leader and many are not going to vote for the idiot. They also don’t like Banksters and they’ve been told not to like PP. Some may go green, some may sit on their hands, some may spoil. Part of me hopes some may go to PP because he’s not a Bankster.
    They’re Wild Card #1 voters

    Wild Card #2: The undecided who aren’t party affiliated. They may decide who gets elected – if they vote.

    1. Sensible and generally I agree. Carney’s bounce is mostly because of Dips disliking Jughead and looking for another socialist.

      As to ‘hardheaded’, I agree. The CPC may not be perfect but it’s the best thing on offer that has a prospect of derailing the socialists. At the current time and circumstances, a vote for Max is a vote for Carney.

      1. “As to ‘hardheaded’, I agree. The CPC may not be perfect but it’s the best thing on offer that has a prospect of derailing the socialists. At the current time and circumstances, a vote for Max is a vote for Carney.”

        And a VERY clear message to the ‘Conservative’ Party of Canada.

        If they want the PPC votes to come back to them, they know exactly how to make that happen.

        1. I don’t think change happens like that.
          Leaders get changed, but policy?
          Want your party to be pure conservative, or even better (IMO) libertarian, you gotta join the inside, not cast a vote somewhere else.
          Some policy makers may just move left.
          Look at the Liberal policies did under the unnameable Fagboy.

          1. “I don’t think change happens like that.
            Leaders get changed, but policy?”

            Real leaders will change policy when necessary.

            “Want your party to be pure conservative, or even better (IMO) libertarian, you gotta join the inside, not cast a vote somewhere else.”

            We tried that already (and I identify mostly with the libertarians). I don’t require 100% purity, just *some* indication that my concerns are being addressed rather than ignored.

    2. Buddy, the under 40 crowd is already breaking heavily for the conservatives. They reached the right audience and one where the most potential damage to Libranos can be made. We will see if it was enough but the rules have changed. Young are more likely to vote C old are more likely to vote vote L. In the long run Libranos are toast.

  9. Don’t know about other people but for me Carnage talking is very-very unwatchable: he has no oomph whatsoever + he’s uh/uhm-ing even more than PM Blackie. And he learned from Socialist European elite to roll his eyes and have some aristocratic face which may work in UK/EU but here in N America stinks to high heaven.

    Even if he would be the only candidate, like in old dictatorial Communist times in East Europe and I still wouldn’t vote for him.

  10. When Con-Carney spat out “I know you wish you were running against Justin Trudeau!” that was an admission of failure over the past 10 years of Liberal rule. Carney has never said he would do anything different. Why the heck would anyone vote for FOUR MORE YEARS OF LIBERAL FAILURE???

    1. Missed opportunity, shoulda been prepped – “I don’t need to run against Trudeau because you’re right here and you’re the same as him”.

      RNrn

    2. If the CPC were smart, that would make a great ad. Carnage making that remark followed by PP explaining how there’s no difference. Hell, instead make a great attack ad comparing what the Turd has done and what Carnage is doing. And point out Carnage was running everything in the background.

    3. “When Con-Carney spat out “I know you wish you were running against Justin Trudeau!” that was an admission of failure over the past 10 years of Liberal rule.”

      It might have been a great line, if Poilievre was actually running against Carney…but he’s not. He’s really running (like the NDP, the Bloc and the Greens) against Donald Trump. Foolishly.

      1. I beg to differ. Young people can see every day they have no future. The Left offers more of that gruesome gruel. Young people are ready to reject it finally. If PP wins that will be the reason. Saw something similar for DJT last Nov. 5th.

  11. Does anyone know what the lapel pin that Carney was wearing is representative of?

  12. It seemed apparent that Jughead was running interference for his Liberal buddy, with his constant interruptions. What an annoying POS.
    CTV hardly mentioning the debate this morning, instead gleefully posting a chart and announcing the Liberals 8 points ahead. I take that as an indication that PP clearly won the nights debate.

  13. // But, but, but … Carney said his policies resulted in only a 2% inflation and your dollar was at “parity”. //

    Carney Bank of Canada 2008 to 2013

    Dollar CDN – USD
    December 31, 2008 0.944173
    December 31, 2009 0.880059
    December 31, 2010 0.970701
    December 31, 2011 1.011464
    December 31, 2012 1.00023
    December 31, 2013 0.971164

    INFLATION
    2008 2.4%
    2009 0.3%
    2010 1.8%
    2011 2.9%
    2012 1.5%
    2013 0.9%

    1. Good one Dizzy – sure Mark Carny did that. But in 2014 Brent oil prices averaged $98.75 per barrel even with a precipitous drop from oversupply in the last half of the year. The complaints and whining about the petro buck from Quebec and Ontario were top news.
      On another aside the CBC complaint about Rebel News not being journalists because they are registered as a third party supporter is missing some important context. Does anyone remember the lawfare and subversion of Ezra Levant’s book after he released it near the election? I would imagine they would like to avoid that type of persecution from elections Canada. We do not live in a free state ,we haven’t for some time it was bad under Trudeau and will be on steroids under Carney -which is unfortunately the likely outcome.

      1. Jim Flaherty did that. Marx Carnage claimed credit for it. Carnage’s incompetence was exposed when he became governor of the Bank of England.

        1. “Carnage’s incompetence was exposed when he became governor of the Bank of England.”
          From a Globe & Mail profile
          // At around 8:45 on the morning of June 24, 2016, Mr. Carney stepped in front of a television camera set up outside his office at the Bank of England. Then-prime minister David Cameron had just resigned. The pound was tumbling in Asian markets.

          Hours before, the British electorate had voted to leave the European Union.
          “Some market and economic volatility can be expected as this process unfolds. But we are well prepared for this,” said Mr. Carney, then the central bank’s governor, looking directly into the camera.
          He outlined the steps that the Bank of England had taken to shore up the financial system ahead of the Brexit referendum, ensuring banks had sufficient cash and liquid assets on hand to manage market swings or bank runs. The central bank, he said, stood ready to provide £250-billion of emergency funding to ensure banks kept lending, and would “not hesitate to take any additional measures required.”

          The short, four-minute address, is widely regarded as the crucial moment of Mr. Carney’s tenure at the Bank of England.
          “He went in front of the British people … and basically said there’s a pilot in the plane,” Sir Jon Cunliffe, former deputy governor at the Bank of England who oversaw financial stability during Mr. Carney’s term, said in an interview. “That morning, it was a really important statement in shaping people’s expectations, particularly in markets, about what is going to happen next.”

          Mr. Carney’s calling card in this election is experience as a crisis manager at a time of extraordinary upheaval brought on by Mr. Trump’s aggressive protectionism. And there’s no question that his career as a civil servant was defined by one economic crisis after another, which he had to manage and clean up after. //

  14. A very distressing thing is that Carney –away from Canada for ten years and not a well known public figure — is not really giving interviews. Canadians should be alarmed by this. He looks like another Kamalla. Why is Carney hiding from the public? I think because he does not have good answers to many outstanding questions about his background. Canadians do not seem to have noticed.

  15. I live in the riding that ‘elected’ Landslide Anne twice and the other Randy as well. I have been doing my best to avoid the media and YouTube regarding Canadian politics this go round but it does seem very odd. I haven’t had anyone knock on my door. I had one card from the NDP and when I drive down the street I see a lot of NDP lawn signs. I see some Liberal signs on public property but almost no CPC signs. None of my acquaintances are paying any attention to the election either.

  16. The Turdeau minority Governments caused so much damage to the country and economy.
    To me, it shouldn’t take too many votes to change to Conservative for the conservatives to win.
    9 years of trying to destroy Canada should be enough.

  17. Poilievre did very well in the debates. But any chance of winning over the undecided was destroyed by the clowns over at Rebel news and the fiasco they created. That’s all people are talking about today…not in a good way for the conservatives.

    1. You better revisit that and watch the videos captured by “the incident”.

      The Drama Queen was one Stu Benson he/him of the Hill Times, throwing a loud hissyfit, yelling across the room, while Ezra was minding his own business. Started with Keean Bexte casually responding to Queen Stu, with Stu getting more animated by the minute.

      At no time was Ezra the cause, nor changed demeanor. Looked like a giant setup attempt to make Rebel the bad guy, again, but in the SM age, cameras/phones are everywhere. Cancelling the media scrum was cowardly and contrived, no doubt a well planned and orchestrated act.

      That said, Carney is Mr Generalities, trump trump trump and build build build. Build what? How? When? He’s just the Low T buzzword guy. Reminded me of the 6uild 6ack 6etter guy.
      PP was solid and confident. Will the low infos get it? All it takes is a 5% shift, seeing how shady Marx is, with no real plans other than more of the same malaise of the last 10 years. The Low Infos tend to like malaise.

    2. The clowns at Rebel News??? So I here a lot of noise about the terrible things and a kerfuffle ,but what exactly did they do?. Surely with all the news organizations there must be video ?Because disrupting the CBC ‘s place as Queen of the fiefdom and spoiling there carefully crafted narrative should be any real journalists job. So where were all the journalists while the multitude of unsavory actions ( many possibly criminal) over the last nine years? After all, we have seen what they can do with a glass of orange juice.

    3. Too much believing the presstitutes at the legacy media are you PCBytown? Or, are you just a Libtard troll.

      1. You sound like the Democrats in the US and their denialism. Btw- i’m true blue and get some new material ‘cause you sound stereotypical.

    4. ” But any chance of winning over the undecided was destroyed by the clowns over at Rebel news and the fiasco they created. ”

      THEY created?

      Watch it again…carefully, this time.

  18. I just heard an ad at the end of a podcast from this bunch:

    https://www.foryoucanada.ca/

    Needless to say, the civil service is afraid that if the Conservatives form the government, he will have a Canadian version of DOGE and, worse yet, they might actually have to earn their paycheques for a change.

    1. “Needless to say, the civil service is afraid that if the Conservatives form the government, he will have a Canadian version of DOGE and, worse yet, they might actually have to earn their paycheques for a change.”

      With Pierre Poilievre in charge? Not even close.

        1. “Well there is a better chance under Poilievre than Carnage.”

          Slightly, I would guess.

    2. It is very safe to claim that the majority of the federal civil servants are card carrying members of the Liberal Party. It explains the victory parties the civil servants were throwing when the Turd won in 2015.

  19. Carney looked grim most of the time with a scowl on his face, like he did not want to be there. He thinks it is beneath him to have to address any of the concerns of his debate participants, so I can’t imagine what he’s going to be like in the House of Commons. My guess is that if the Libs win, he’ll spend as little time as possible in Parliament and leave it to one of his underlings to field questions.

  20. I still think the best approach against Carney would be to replace all his photos with a Garden Gnome.

  21. Just voted. Big line. The lady said they had over 600 people before noon. Never seen anything like it.

    1. “Just voted. Big line. The lady said they had over 600 people before noon. Never seen anything like it.”

      What does that really mean, I wonder?

  22. Freaking boomers are still voting librard. I hope when the country separates their pensions go first.

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