30 Replies to “Lest We Forget”

  1. I’m sure “C” would approve.
    Obviously, I don’t.
    War must never be celebrated. War must only be fought in the most extreme conditions, and even then, must be waged methodically with a purpose. That purpose should not be to kill your enemy, but to achieve an objective. That is why when war is waged, I say that the enemy “must be neutralized.” That objective can be achieved without celebrating the death of your enemy. Make no mistake. People will die in war, and sometimes it is necessary to kill in a state of war. My point is that no one should celebrate the fact that they killed the enemy. Their deaths are simply a means necessary to achieve victory.
    Recall that during Christmas break in WWI, enemy soldiers would stop their battles, and play games of soccer together.
    Adam Kinzinger is a ghoul for posting that tweet. He is the epidemy of the mindset that thirsts for war. He should be drummed out of the new (MAGA) Republican party.

    1. fc
      “and even then, must be waged methodically”
      And now you show us just how stupid you really are, war is fought without rules in most cases. When fools try to impose rules, you get never ending wars like Israel faces. Go to the front lines, and then come back and explain ‘rules’ for me.
      You are a prime example of the problems on the social/political right.

      1. ?
        how so?
        l suppose youre no fan of George S Patton, his view of war is to lay into the enemy no refuge no letting up, GET IT OVER WITH TO MINIMIZE CASUALTIES.
        the *only* top level military commander l EVER saw weeping about the cost of human life that his orders precipitated.

        lm unaware however any hint of war crimes allegations against him. thats where the ‘rules’ prevail and there ARE rules of war.

        no wonder the clip disappeared with the likes of you the armchair critic so common.

        1. Another great quote by Patton addressing his soldiers: I don’t want you to die for our country, I want the enemy to die for his.

      2. I suppose, GYM, you are not familiar with the concept of “war crimes.”
        There are rules, and if you knew more about Catholicism, instead of bashing it at every opportunity, you’ll know that there are morals to follow even in war.

        Your criticism just bounced off of me, and right back onto you. As usual, you tend to speak of things you know nothing about, and you keep proving over and over again how incredibly ignorant you really are.

      1. The purpose of war is to win it. Not to destroy the enemy, but to render the enemy incapable of waging war.

        1. You render the enemy incapable of waging war by delivering death and destruction, often wholesale.

          Surely, you have to be aware of how the Nazis fought until Berlin, the regime’s last redoubt, was turned into rubble. They kept fighting until there was nothing but death and destruction and misery all around them.

          And dare I mention Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Let the “but, but, buts” begin and the tears flow.

  2. I have no respect for people like him- yes, he is UniParty!
    On another note, I still think that Ukraine deserves all of the “stuff” which has happened in the last 2.5 years because of the shit they pulled in World War II. The Old Testament of the Bible noted that it took 7 generations (a generation = 20 years) for evil to be removed from a family (think the Kennedys and nasty Joe in the 20’s – they still have at least another 3 generations to go) or from a country. Canada has piled up a lot of evil under Trudeau 2.0, so lots of “not nice stuff” is going to happen to Canadians in the future.
    Also, I just found out that Regina City Hall was going to raise the Palestinian flag in solidarity today, but it was stopped yesterday. Yes, it is too bad about what is happening in that area of the world but it falls into the category of “fool around and find out”. I have posted previously how I love history and since I became aware in 1967 with the 7 day war (I was 15), this stuff happened first every 5 years (Yom Kippur War in 1973) and Lebanon (in 1980) and then every 20 years. The last time the Palestinians and Hamas got “out of hand” was in 2005, so just under 20 years. I know that if I was in the Israeli government, I would be royally “P.O.ed!”
    I have toned down my language from being foul, so that this can be posted.

    1. As I’m sure I’ve noted here before, hitchhiking east in 1963, spent a little time in Syria, (before going through Iraq, Iran, Pakistan); we learned to give the impression that we were German, after being told they loved the Germans “Because they killed the Jews”.

      Decades later, in Saudi, one of the nicest people I’ve ever met, a black half Sudanese, half Egyptian, shocked me by suddenly stating that all Jews should be killed.

      Islam from birth….every waking moment.

  3. I was just going to say that, that Kinzinger post might just have been the results of a recent trip to the range that he hosted.
    Has anyone done wellness checks on his range partners?

  7. You do have to wonder what mental aberration causes for normal person to be so demented.
    Noticed that this is most common to the so called ‘Democrats’, with a so called ‘Republican’ here and there.
    Thinking it must be that those people are rather isolated form a pedestrian walking down the street.
    Do they ever go to a food store to buy things? Do they go to a restaurant and sit down next to the severely normal people or do they enjoy a separate room?
    It just seems that they live in another dimension, separate people, completely isolated from everyday life of normal person that has to make living for themselves and their families.

  9. Sorry. I refuse to demonize and dehumanize the Russian people. From what I’ve seen on the internet … they are family and children oriented … just like us. They live happy suburban lives … just like us. Tucker Carlson gave us a glimpse of how clean, and civilized a country Russia is. They don’t brainwash their children about the EVIL of Christianity as do the Muslim nations … not to mention the USA …

    Should I blame Russia for defending itself ? For taking control of a historically Russian region that had come under attack by the CIA and twisted members of a fraudulent Ukraine government? And ask yourself why millions upon millions of Ukraine citizens FLED their nation … permanently… at the start of the war? Why didn’t they stick around and FIGHT for their nation? Yeah, you know the answer … they weren’t gonna die for the CIA’s penis wagging President. No way.

    Kinsinger is a blithering idiot with a terminal case of TDS

    1. Thank you, Kenji, for reminding us what the real issues are behind this conflict.
      And you’re right. KIinzinger is not only an idiot, he is evil.

    1. Thats not even a comparison you brain dead twat. For starters , no dead bodies and graves with laughing about it. Secondly, the ONLY way Israel will ever get peace is the complete annihilation of Hamas AND their supporters. There is no 2nd option. All the USA and NATO had to do tonstop Ukraine was stick to a decades old agreement around membership and borders. Twat.

      1. – For starters , no dead bodies and graves with laughing about it.

        There were certainly dead bodies and graves. In fact, the follow up walkie-talkie attack caused an explosion at the funeral of one of those killed in the pager attack. Which I thought was hilarious.

        – the ONLY way Israel will ever get peace is the complete annihilation of Hamas AND their supporters. There is no 2nd option.

        Couldn’t agree more with the sentiment, but I’d add a few more in line for destruction.

        – All the USA and NATO had to do tonstop Ukraine was stick to a decades old agreement around membership and borders.

        Which agreement is that then? Surely you don’t mean the 1990 “Treaty on the Final Settlement with Respect to Germany” which said absolutely nothing about NATO membership beyond Germany being allowed to join alliances; and only addressed the border of Germany.

        1. There are no dead bodies and laughing in the link you provided of Kates, unlike the despicable post by Kinzinger. There is no comparison other than one is openly gloating and laughing over dead bodies in graves and one is having some schadenfruede about the death ( without the dead bodies and hahaha) of another gutless coward who puts women and children in the frontline to garner international condemnation from their deaths. As for the agreement, while it may be disputed, declassified documents show there was assurances given about NATO expanding Eastward. https://natowatch.org/newsbriefs/2018/how-gorbachev-was-misled-over-assurances-against-nato-expansion

          1. – There is no comparison other than . . .

            Well, that’s an advance on there being no comparison. Now we’re discussing presentation; one is direct and visceral; the other detached and metaphorical (and much funnier). But it’s the same thing at heart- laughing at the demise of those considered enemies. I’ll admit I’m too squeamish to find mangled dead bodies amusing but I’m not going to get bent out shape over others’ standards. I’m in the UK so don’t know this Kinzinger bloke from Adam. Maybe there’s some context we don’t see; it’s an image rather than links (and I’m not on Xwitter to check further).

            – As for the agreement, while it may be disputed, declassified documents show there was assurances given about NATO expanding Eastward.

            It’s like the “fine people” hoax (but needing more work) – once you look into it fully you realise it’s tedious bollocks. Gorbachev said as much, which should be a major clue.

    2. Yeah, yeah … one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter. Idiots who ascribe to such “moral relevancy” are EVIL … pure EVIL.

      1. … one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.

        Not sure why you’d want to repeat that trope.

        – Idiots who ascribe to such “moral relevancy” are EVIL … pure EVIL.

        The question is, Kenji, would you laugh over their graves?

    3. Recall what I was saying above. In this case, it was NECESSARY to kill the man who plans and coordinates attacks against the innocent people the IDF is defending. Killing is a reality in war, but killing should not be indiscriminate, nor should it be celebrated.
      However in this case, this man was a legitimate target, and rightly so. So what Kate was celebrating was a victory in a battle during a state of war. Killing this one individual may have saved hundreds if not thousands of innocent lives, which is ok in my book, as well, it is also ok in the Catechism of the RCC.

      1. – So what Kate was celebrating was . . .

        Your mind reading skills are ahead of mine. I took it at face value as a joke about the killing and maiming of terrorists.

        – Killing this one individual . . .

        What are you talking about? This was the pager attack which killed dozens and maimed thousands.

    4. One publication said Gorbachov said so. Apparently your source of information is more reliable than declassified documents. Its like the Reuters fact check sites so many people quote as proof of their argument. They aren,t, they are fake news President Trump warned about. NATO and the USA military industrial complex have pushed the boundaries to create conditions for war. Any Ukranian deaths are on them. Its no coincidence all impeachment attempts on Ttump revolved around Ukraine. He was a threat to their money laundering and arms deals.

      1. – One publication said Gorbachov said so.

        It was a published interview. Gorbachev had every opportunity to object if he felt misrepresented. To be clear, Gorbachev disagreed with NATO expansion and he could easily have ridden this bus. He chose to stick to his view on what happened surrounding the Two Plus Four meetings.

        – Apparently your source of information is more reliable than declassified documents.

        Have you looked at the documents or just articles about the documents?

        – NATO and the USA military industrial complex have pushed the boundaries to create conditions for war.

        This is Russian agitprop. It took re-founded Russia less than three years to start destabilising and invading its newly indpendent neighbours. It shouldn’t be a mystery that the others with experience of Russian patronage started looking for security; NATO curious countries rapidly became NATO applying countries. There is nothing wrong with those countries wanting to be free in the modern world, and nothing wrong with the free world inviting them in.

        – all impeachment attempts on Ttump revolved around Ukraine.

        There were two impeachments. One involved Ukraine, the other (Jan 6th) didn’t. (Both seemed like partisan fit ups to me)

        Speaking of Trump, you should be aware of the difference between his public rhetoric and actions on Russia. Despite his puffery of Putin, Trump ratcheted up sanctions on the regime during his tenure and he was the first to send lethal aid to Ukraine. Trump warned the EU about Russia and was laughed at and then vilified for sanctions on Nordstream (they’re not laughing now). I don’t think Trump shares your delusions on the situation, though I’ve no idea what Trump2 will do in office. He has nominated Russophiles and Russophobes for his administration, which is exactly what I would expect from a poker player who wants to keep the other players guessing. Being a Churchill fan, he will be well aware of the dangers of appeasement so my hope is that he will use peace negotiations to make Putin an offer he has to refuse – and then crush him when he does. Whilst smiling.

        And being Trump the great persuader, he’ll probably do it in a way that’ll make you think you’ve been against Russian aggression all along. Because he likes good people and doesn’t like to see them stuck on the wrong side of history.

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