Maybe the climate change science isn’t all that settled, after all, especially when it comes to climate models, writes University of Regina professor James Warren.
And if Newfoundland (which votes Liberal) does it, then drilling for oil isn’t so bad, now, is it, Minister Guilbeault?
And capturing CO2 from the air – isn’t that what trees do?
Wasn’t this Steve Giblit in jail at one time?
Yes, he’s a convict
And apparently when he was appointed to cabinet he owed the CRA well into five figures (before the decimal point).
No word if he’s paid his back taxes owing.
contemplate the following, what is the business case for capturing CO2 from the air, concentrating it, and storing it?
Without the intervention of government to subsidize it, there isn’t one, otherwise gas companies like Praxair(now Linde), Air Liquide, and Messer would already be doing it, and selling the resulting CO2 to industrial users who need it, like Greenhouses, Carbonated Beveridge producers, and welders.
When it comes to greenhouses, even with the crushing carbon taxes, it still works out cheaper to run propane CO2 generators, than buy CO2 in tanks.
Business case?
Liberal consultants and SNC get paid big bucks.
CO2 is not a pollutant or a climate driver. If the PPM get too low we all die, all of us includes the idiots who think Co2 can be reduced or eliminated. They are fools.
Yeah but a logic question for a zero-brain like Guilbeault is like playing chess with a pigeon.
Yer average pigeon has an IQ 40 points higher than that useless prick.
Too true, but I think you’re being a bit hard on the pigeons of the world!
That f*****g pigeon has the ability to kill you.
What comes out of the pigeon is exponentially more intelligent, better looking and far better smelling.
“We need to ensure that whatever oil or gas we’re still using … the emissions from those operations are captured and sequestered…”
Hmmm maybe we could spend the trillions it’d take to develop something reliable, low-cost, all-natural and non-polluting to do that. And ideally, like one of those mythical turdopian ‘budgets’ able to carry on without our assistance.
Or maybe we could just plant trees.
We have lots of available real estate, plenty of little trees, and all that’d be needed would be a few hundred thousand ex- turd-worlders with Grade-2+ equivalent educations equipped with shovels. Tents work just fine for housing, and might even be affordable. Good nutritious hot food could be supplied as part of the deal, and mosquito repellent provided to all planters of good behavior who pull their weight, and the worst of the slacker/trouble-making hard-cores simply wouldn’t get their helicopter ride to the next camp.
Am I missing anything here…?
Unfortunately the ‘new Canadians’ likely produce more carbon emissions (not pollution or greenhouse gas) than they would save with said ‘work’!
How are the electric helicopters working out?
For occasional short-haul Pinochet-type air service, electric helicopters might just be a viable alternative.
And possibly better for the environment, too…
Been seeing a lot of “captured carbon will be used to pressurize oil wells” lately.
How does this really compare to just using water or traditional drilling fluid?
Feels like a scam to me.
As I understand it from reading over at WUWT, CO2 is great for oil well injection, Bunny.
But if memory serves, it only makes economic sense if the CO2 capture occurs close to the oil fields. Capture setups a couple of hundred miles away cost more for transport than the production boost they provide.
So, not a scam, Bunny unless the CO2 capture is forced and not left up to the oil and gas producers to decide when it makes economic sense.
Forcing it everywhere is the scam. That just increases fuel costs which advances the watermelons’ agenda.
Seems like it would make more sense to just use nitrogen.
70% vs less than 1%
It is a scam.
Danielle smith can’t pimp climate change hard enough. Sellout.
https://gettr.com/post/p2odpv4cf02
Reading that article … literally … made me feel ill.
A Canadian company that is pioneering the use of direct air capture technology to remove carbon dioxide directly from the atmosphere has been acquired by U.S. oil company Occidental Petroleum.
Wow !! Just like trees. Only … trees are EVERYWHERE across our planet. And this Harvard grad’s. Carbon capture factories will be located in ONE PLACE … yet they claim to capture up to 1 million tonnes of Co2 annually. Has anyone “modeled” what happens to the local atmosphere where these Co2 Factories are located? Will the crops fail? Will the trees DIE? They’re pulling a LOT of Co2 out of the air from a single POINT on the map … what’s THAT gonna do to nature. Something tells me that this Harvard “genius” couldn’t be bothered with such mundane details … he’s got LOTS of government $$$$$ to grab … as fast as he can.
And if his Co2 Factories have NO impact on the local nature … then how could they possibly be impacting “global warming” in any way, shape, or form?
each of his 1 megaton plants will remove the equivalent CO2 of the annual production of 1/16th of a Canadian, or 1/1600th of a Trudeau.
Of course what is difficult to find on the website is that it’ll take 1200kW/h to remove 1 ton of CO2 from the atmosphere. Now if you are using a Natural Gas combined cycle power plant, you produce 436g/kW/h (best case).
so 436g *1200kW/h = 523kg of CO2 generation per ton of CO2 removed
And that doesn’t include pumping it, storing it and injecting it into the ground (or alternatively converting it into something useful)
Couple of points.
1. If an oil company has been given permission to drill for oil by the Trudeau Government, then it is clear to me…that some Liberal, somewhere (probably sits on the Board) is going to make a buck off of it. Liberals always get a piece of the action.G
2. Remember Apollo 13? April, 1970, there was an emergency on board the space vehicle, and the crew were going to suffocate because the CO2 was building up inside the capsule. The 3 guys took some cardboard, some plastic tubing, and something like toilet paper and made a CO2 “scrubber” that managed to save their lives.
Now consider this. “Global warming” is not as bad as “global cooling”
Global warming may mean more CO2 in the air, but that’s good for plants. Life loves warm wet environments. That’s why there are many millions of species of creature and plants in the Amazon. Life doesn’t like the cold and the dry. That’s why you could record every living thing in Antarctica in about 2 weeks. (not including the ocean critters).
So, here is my proposal. STOP global warming caused by CO2 (which is false by the way….but for the sake of this argument; humour me) by building towers (similar to big wind farms) that can be used to “scrub” the CO2 from the atmosphere, and store it underground. This could help slow down the global warming (still a hoax) caused by human activity.
Then, when the earth goes into another cooling phase (which it will), we can avoid the next ICE AGE…which would be far more detrimental to life on the planet, we RELEASE the CO2 we have stored in the ground, and mitigate as best we can; the cooling that was going to occur.
We create our own Global Warming, when the ice age hits, and prevent the Global warming when the earth is too warm.
Nah…that would make too much sense.
Actually it makes zero sense but it is humorous.
// Remember Apollo 13? April, 1970 //
No, but here’s a description:
https://spacecenter.org/apollo-13-infographic-how-did-they-make-that-co2-scrubber/
I don’t think you become a climate scientist to disprove global warming.. It kinda $$$ comes with the job..
Carbontroller.
Wood in buildings, along with paper even in landfills is captured carbon. Given enough time it can become coal.
When the Chinese and Indians get into capturing atmospheric CO2 I’ll pay attention. Until then it is just another planetary salvation delusion of the green theocracy.
CO2 fertilization experiments conducted in greenhouses clearly demonstrate that:
1. The CO2 level for optimum plant growth is ~1000 – 1200 ppm (the approximate level in the atmosphere when woody plants evolved).
2. At ~500 ppm CO2, plant growth becomes severely retarded (we’re currently at ~423 ppm).
3. When CO2 levels fall below ~150 ppm, nearly all plants die.
During the last Ice Age, atmospheric CO2 levels fell to ~185 ppm. This is because cold oceans absorb massive amounts of CO2 from the atmosphere; and one reason CO2 levels are rising today is because our oceans are warming and off-gassing CO2. So during the last Ice Age, we narrowly missed mass extinction. And we know Ice Ages are cyclical and the next one is not too far off, which means… the people pushing CO2 capture and sequestration are completely ignorant or certifiably insane.
Yes we are currently lower than is really good. At 150ppm we are all dead not just plants.
“The Science”.
Meh,it has occurred to me that Carbon Sequestration can be achieved..
By burying Liberal Gas Bags so deep that their carbon takes centuries to reenter the food chain.
Remember :”Safety First” Ban all Assault Style Liberals.
I mean Bury.
// one reason CO2 levels are rising today is because our oceans are warming and off-gassing CO2 //
And why are our oceans warming?
In any case the ocean sequesters carbon, to the tune of 5-6 billion tons per year, about 40% of our emissions.
[as well as absorbing 90% of the excess heat retained by greenhouse gasses]
//The ocean stores 50 times more carbon than the atmosphere, and 20 times more than land plants and soil combined,//
This process occurs through a process called the biological carbon pump:
// The ‘dance’ that keeps carbon in check
Where the sun shines at the surface of the water, microscopic plants called phytoplankton and algae are happily soaking up those rays and taking in carbon dioxide while they photosynthesize. In exchange for that CO2, these largely invisible organisms produce around half of the oxygen we land dwellers breathe, Buesseler noted.
Then, when the sun goes down, the countless fish and other sea creatures that dwell in the midwaters [the “twilight zone”] embark on a long journey, traveling up hundreds of meters to feed on those tasty aquatic plants (and each other) under the cover of darkness. As they eat, they consume some of the carbon that those tiny plants absorbed from the atmosphere. At sunrise, the creatures make their way back to the twilight zone to hide from predators until repeating the process the next evening.
When those small fish poop, or when their bigger predators poop, that waste contains some of the carbon captured by the plants. So too do the decaying bodies of any sea creatures.
“It is this huge, coordinated dance that all of these organisms go on every single day,” said Morgan Raven, an organic geochemist and geobiologist at the University of California Santa Barbara. “It’s happening on time scales we could observe with our eyes, [but] it’s invisible to most of us.” // pbs
Ocean acidification & deep sea fishing are possible threats to this process.
A Window into the Twilight Zone
https://twilightzone.whoi.edu/a-window-into-the-twilight-zone/