Germany is facing several tough years due to a combination of transitioning to sustainable energy sources and the rising costs of energy, warned Germany’s Green Economic Affairs Minister Robert Habeck.
The federal minister, who has long called for a radical energy policy change, said that Germany faces “five tough years ahead” and revealed the country will have to borrow to support companies’ energy costs or lose their industry.
Let’s remember the cause of the Ukraine War: Germany depending on Russia for energy, and Biden’s approval of Nordstream 2, which made the gas pipelines running through Ukraine from Russia unnecessary. Both actions made Putin confident he could invade Ukraine with impunity.
small c
send me some of what you are smoking. The energy issue has NO relevance to the starting of the war, it started in 2014 according to stoltenberg and holande’, butt keep believing the stuff that comes out of a BULL’s hind end .
Just stop using all energy yet still pay as though you’re consuming huge BTU’s … pay … for … NOT using energy.
Borrow what?? Money??..
OK, so the heavily subsidized green energy has caused industry to now be heavily subsidized.. Next the consumers will be heavily subsidized to purchase all the crap..
We have a word for that, CANCER.. and the 5 year end date is BS.. The front end is as unprofitable and inefficient as it ever was.. Everybody downstream is beholding to that..
Only war and deeply satisfying witch trials can end this.. What a ugly situation..
“Borrow what?? Money??..”
Hey, don’t knock the thermal energy of fairy dust until you’ve tried it.
This is what you get when you swallow down propaganda and financing from the Soviet KGB. It decided on a policy of creating German dependence on Russian oil and gas. Now they’ve got it, and as HL Mencken once put it, “they are getting it good and hard.” Antinuclearism seemed a cheap and easy energy policy. This is where it’s led to.
The Germans voted for all this; they deserve the consequences. But then, Germans also voted for National Socialism in 1933, and look how that turned out.
cghCOLON
Hahahaha, you still buy the CIA’s propaganda I see.
CIA started this schitt show back in !963, when they decided to kill JFK, and they’ve been at it ever since. A few years ago 2 german urnolists stated that they only reported what the CIA told them to. Now FO with your STUPIDITY!
Your still an effing moron. Yuri Andropov performed this which is why he was named Brezhnev’s successor. Now crawl back into your toilet, you Putin fellator.
cghCOLON
That the best you can do? I’v had 5yr olds out perform you.
What I read is him saying…Just 5 more years of energy pain while we transition to more green energy even though it was the first green energy transition that created this pain.
Questions :
Is anyone actually buying “5 more years” promise?
Why are other modern industrialized countries in the western world so anxious to follow Germany’s Path of Pain energy policies? it clearly doesn’t work.
“transitioning to sustainable energy sources and the rising costs of energy,”
No shit, Sherlock.
“Five tough years ahead …
Here. let me finish that sentence for you:
… to get you used to freezing and starving.”
Looking at the political party makeup of Germany’s current cabinet it isn’t difficult to spot the problem.
The German greens are to energy what AIDs was to promiscuous gays in the 80s. Their only lasting impact is increasing the burning of wood and coal while proving the reality that physics trumps ideology. Wind and solar (on the grid) are not particularly green, will not add significantly to “decarbonizing” and, are a direct path to energy poverty as Ontario, California, UK, Germany and others have learned. Ontario has corrected direction and are now going nuclear.
Germany is overrun with engineers, but no, the government decided to listen to environmentalists.
I just returned from Germany on a river Cruise.
I saw several coal filled barges working their way from the Amsterdam area up the Reine river, plus countless oil and gas barges.
Looks like they are trying to stockpile al lot of Fossil Fuel energy for the winter.
Too bad they shut down their nuclear and Russia cut off their gas supply.
Plus half of the windmills I saw weren’t turning.
You reap what you sow I guess.
“……and Russia cut off their gas supply.”
You mean the west blew up Nordstream and cut off the gas supply. Russia could have simply turned off a few valves on their end. Add some sanctions by EU countries and voila no energy save for the Uranium and coal and some natural gas still supplied by Russia, and whatever oil the US now supply’s at inflated prices.
“Hydrogen is the future” according to the minister…
not mentioned is where the hydrogen is going to be created, and how much energy input will be required to create it, nor where all the materials required will be sourced…
And 5 years is probably beyond the next election, so the minister may not care
If “Hydrogen is the future” here’s the problem – Hydrogen is produced in mass quantities by steam reformation of hydrocarbons which Germany would still have to import. If you’re going to produce enough hydrogen to power an entire country without hydrocarbons you’ll need Gigawatts (possibly Terawatts) of electricity for the hydrolysis process so you will need lots of nuclear power plants.
Whichever way you generate the hydrogen, you’re going to have to compress it or liquefy it so it can be transported and stored. Both methods will require more electricity, IIRC 30 percent of the energy value of the hydrogen being compressed. To add to the difficulty, Hydrogen atoms are so small they will penetrate metal causing “Hydrogen embrittlement” of the pressure vessel so special materials are required. Liquid Hydrogen is colder than liquid Nitrogen at -253C where most metals are as brittle as cheap glass so again special materials are needed along with lots of bulky insulation.
I’d say the Germans are in for decades of hardship, not years.
Never mind that it takes 47kwh to produce 1 kg of hydrogen through hydrolysis and 1kg of hydrogen only contains 36kwh of energy.
Any elected official proclaiming to their constituents that the next 5 years are going to be lousy deserves to be beaten to a pulp by the public.
Hilarious how the Green Economic Affairs minister is telling the German people, now, that massive subsidies will be required to save German industry. This, on top of the massive subsidies the government provided to the German people last year so that they wouldn’t freeze to death when they couldn’t afford to pay their power bills. The German standard of living will continue plunging as they transition to radically expensive and less reliable power.
Germans are incapable of learning. They should never have been allowed an independent foreign policy after WW II. Their policies have once again brought crisis to Europe. Let’s hope they are not trusted to lead Europe, going forward: abolish the EU, neuter Germany.
5 year plan?? Seriously? With a straight face?
Practically page 1 of the old Soviet playbook.
That Russian oil and gas will start looking real good.