Amazing The NYT, along with the WPost, first hunted down and exposed the alleged leaker of “The Discord Files,”™.
Now, somehow with exclusive control over the documents, are using them to repeatedly suggest the US must send still more weapons and other resources to Ukraine.
In the replies: No doubt The New York Times has an explanation of why their photo of a malte kreuz on a military vehicle matches the one used by the Wehrmacht of the Third Reich and not the Bundeswehr of the Federal Republic even though it disappeared when Nazi Germany lost the war in 1945.
Ukraine needs to hurry up and surrender or we are going to have nuclear exchange at some point.
Stop feeding the Trolls of Ukraine.
No they need to crush Russia.
Russia does not lose, ever.
LOL, who taught you history?
Crimean War.
Russo Japanese War.
WWI.
1920 Invasion of Poland.
1939 Invasion of Finland.
Afghanistan.
Muscovy delenda est (don’t forget the salt).
Of those defeats, only one has stuck so far, being an exception that proves the rule.
The defeat in the Crimean War was undone within 20 years in the Russo-Turkish War, where Britain and France stood by and watched.
The defeat in the Russo-Japanese War was undone in the span of six weeks in 1945.
The defeat in the First World War was reversed rather decisively in 1945 when the Red Army liberated (say what you want about the Soviets, but the Nazis were far, far worse) eastern Europe and marched through Berlin.
The Soviet-Polish conflict was resolved rather decisively in 1945.
You might not have noticed, but the Winter War ended with a Soviet victory in 1940, albeit one far bloodier than expected. The rematch against Nazi-allied Finland also ended in a decisive Soviet victory in 1944.
So far, the only defeat that has stuck is the Soviet campaign in Afghanistan, even then they’re in good company. The Afghans had previously humiliated the British Empire, and have since done the same to the United States of America. Like I said, there is an exception that proves the rule, and that exception is the Graveyard of Empires, Afghanistan.
As for the last bit, screw that, don’t want a nuclear that ruins civilization, both western and eastern.
He made a ridiculous point that orcs don’t lose wars. They do, examples aplenty. Now if you want to shift the goalpost and argue that the effects of wars get reversed by subsequent wars, you’re simply arbitrarily picking points in time as start and end dates. Reality is that russia won some wars and lost some wars. The end.
The other fact is that russia in 2022 was much weaker than russia was in 1989. And russia in 2023 is much weaker than russia was in 2022. This war is an utter disaster for russia and hopefully it will lead to russian demise as a European nation. It has already led to russian demise as anything resembling an empire. It is important now to cause maximum damage to russia, bring the whore to her knees and piss on her snout. None has an apatite for conquest (delusions of idiots like Freddie below aside) but neutering russia into internal collapse is achievable and hopefully will happen.
As an aside, russia won their biggest victory because civilization saved them. (no they weren’t better than Nazis, they were, and more importantly are, just as evil). Your understanding of the magnitude of russian fail in 1920 is lacking and you make plenty of other ridiculous short cuts to prove a false artificial point.
“The Afghans had previously humiliated the British Empire, and have since done the same to the United States of America. Like I said, there is an exception that proves the rule, and that exception is the Graveyard of Empires, Afghanistan.”
This is also nonsense. Afghanistan has never been a graveyard of empires. Alexander the Great carved his through to India and back (with losses) and left the Batrician Empire in his wake (making Afghanistan a cradle of empire). The British got what they wanted: a buffer state to keep the Russians out of India. Modern Afghanistan is Central Asian Belgium. The British took some terrible losses but dished it back out and then some.
The USSR’s scorched earth tactics were actually more or less working until the US got involved. There is strong debate about whether defeat in Afghanistan really drove collapse of the USSR or the other way around. I increasingly lean to the latter. Reagan’s stable dollar policies (backed by and backing Volker) slammed oil and other commodities, and Soviet communism was basically kept afloat by hydrocarbon revenues. The USSR was really good about paying its accounts…until it started slipping in the very late ’70s, or so I’ve heard.
More accurately, Russia does not stay beaten. Any defeats are typically undone within 50 years, usually much less.
LOL, for most of their history they were a Mongol fiefdom.
You will note that even that got reversed too. Just took somewhat longer.
Nothing got reversed. Mongol Empire collapsed and its cancerous afterbirth remained. That is not a reversal, that is a sewer pit filling up.
This is the palest weakest war record praise one could offer.
“This is also nonsense. Afghanistan has never been a graveyard of empires. Alexander the Great carved his through to India and back (with losses) and left the Batrician Empire in his wake (making Afghanistan a cradle of empire). The British got what they wanted: a buffer state to keep the Russians out of India. Modern Afghanistan is Central Asian Belgium. The British took some terrible losses but dished it back out and then some. ”
Every once in a while you shock people by making an intelligent statement. Either that, or someone else writes them for you.
Either way: stop it.
Modified limited hangout.
The US will never send ATACMS to Ukraine, because after a short period of success, the Russian air defenses will solve them, as they have the HIMARS, and will undoubtedly share their findings with the Chinese and Iranians, who are also targets of the expansionist American empire.
I have a lot of sympathy for the “Little Englanders” of the late Nineteenth Century, who loved their country, and wanted it to go back to being a country, and get out of the business of empire.
They have not ‘solved’ HIMARS in the slightest.
“I have a lot of sympathy for the “Little Englanders” of the late Nineteenth Century, who loved their country, and wanted it to go back to being a country, and get out of the business of empire.”
I’m not that smart, can you please elaborate or explain the relationship to your statement above, I’m not trolling just need education.
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thee brits have been clamoring to be a big player in every USA hegemonic project in recent memory. It was the brits who supplied (or helped supply ) the brand new Toyota pickups that the ISIS suddenly had in Syria and Iraq . The brits are front and center in this Uke mess, they have more “special” forces types in there than USA. They want to piss with the big dogs, butt are Smalwell.:-))))
Let me get this straight. All of the TLA intelligence agencies tied into everything, everywhere, who can read any electronic communication from any device and can place someone at a location from the camera in the gas pump or traffic cams could not find the leaker, but the NYT and WaPo, which probably couldn’t successfully investigate a theft of donuts from their break room, in 48 hours can find a leaker who doesn’t have enough security clearance to ever be in the same room as the documents he leaked.
And surprisingly(!), the leaked documents support the need for the pending legislation that would give the government control of the internet as well as show the need to throw yet more $billions and arms at Ukraine.
Okay. Uh-huh. Suuuure… if that’s what you want me to believe. “Thank you, sir! May I have another?”
HR, Careful, these truths you glibly mention might upset those trying to fool the rest of us. We’re not supposed to notice or question too deeply, yet we are supposed to accept the altered reality they are pretending is the real truth!
It was convenient for the handlers of subjective leaks for NYT and WaPo to get selective leaks identifying who the “leaker” was in order to attempt to discredit the “leaker” who was providing unapproved leaks.
No better way to start the day than Greenwald’s salty tears and butthurt, his terrible writing notwithstanding.
Apparently the Ukes are now on the other side of the Dnipr.
The odds of the ukes wiping out the ruskies are about the same as me walking to the moon.
The same could be said for Russian odds on taking all of Ukraine. They are incapable.
There will be some springtime action and by winter both sides will have exhausted their morale and their military.
A truce will be forced on the waring cousins by a world tired of both of them. They can then go back to their default position of slitting each others throats.
The real nazi tanks in Ukraine have a Z on them.
Russia can end the war at any time by leaving Ukraine.
“Russia can end the war at any time by leaving Ukraine.”
Ukraine can end it too, by negotiating. Or they can just keep on dying, until there aren’t enough citizens of fighting age to keep up a viable defense…at which time the negotiations will be *forced* on them, and they will end up with a fraction of what they could have had if they weren’t dumb enough to actually believe the laughably inept advice spewed by mindless trolls like you and the other two Stooges. They are very much in need of some adult supervision.
Negotiate what, exactly? Russia still hasn’t published their goals for the war. It’s obvious what they want: subjugation of Ukraine. How do you negotiate with that?
Goal: Keep NATO away from borders where infantry invasions are easy.
You know squat about history.
“Negotiate what, exactly? Russia still hasn’t published their goals for the war.”
Sure they have…you just keep telling us they are ‘propaganda’ and ‘excuses’. The west had plenty of warning that this was going to happen, but CHOSE not to stop it (gee, I wonder why?). One simple statement by the US government could have stopped this before it even happened, and you know it.
“Sure they have…”
Indeed, orcs wanted all of Ukraine and Moldova subjugated (Lukashenko’s map). They failed. Not only they failed in Ukraine they will lose Transnistria, and now their Northern Fleet bases are within easy striking reach from NATO territory. Geopolitically they’re FUBAR.
Oh and Baltic is now a NATO lake.
We did that and Minsk II led to this war. Your refusal to learn from very recent very obvious history is not our perogative.
” Your refusal to learn from very recent very obvious history is not our perogative.”
Please translate that to English for me, okay?
(or just stop using multi-syllabic words that you obviously don’t understand)
For those wondering about the symbol the AFU use, that is the cossack cross which predates the iron cross by hundreds of years. As seen on many of Zelenskys shirts.
The spring offensive will fill the ukes bodybags. For what?
Both sides lose. Somebody will call for a cease fire so both sides can evaluate and come to their senses. A truce will be forced on the ukes by their ‘allies’ who are footing the bill.
Canada has dumped 4 or 5 billion into a civil war for what? Our own military is in total collapse. The eurotrash will bail on the ukes who they never liked anyway.
“The spring offensive will fill the ukes bodybags. For what?”
For the simplest of reasons, really: money.
How much of that ended up in the civil war, versus how much ended up as fees and other sundry types of corruption to enrich the chosen liberal peoples?
There will be no large scale spring offensive, just like there was no fall Ukrainian spring offensive and no winter orc offensive. Ukrainians have grounded orc forces to a halt and decimated them. Yes they suffered heavy loses but the orcs loses were much higher, many times higher. Ukrainians don’t have enough western kit to decisively push further. Front lines will shift a bit, few times. Maybe Ukrainian San Jacinto will come, maybe not.
There was a winter orc offensive, you just can’t tell because of how bad it sucked. Lots of bodies and burnt out armor at Vuhledar.
Yes and no. Orcs realized they had no resources for anything strategic, they burn through replacements (both men and material) at a rate that prevents significant stockpiling. Hence their ambitions were reduced to just a few small scale tactical attacks that failed to achieve anything substantial and proven very bloody in the process. Ukraine too is in similar situation. They can hold but cannot commit to a breakthrough push. Like I said, maybe their San Jacinto (that metaphorical gentle downward sloping plane) will arrive, maybe not.
The Russians are stuck in the mud for a year, using only a $65 billion budget, fighting a $200+ billion budget, using WW2 equipment no less, but the Ukes still need more money and weapons.
Gimme a break. Russia is gonna win, even as our own leaders bleed us dry to pay for their biolabs and money-laundering. Russia is fighting for territorial integrity, the west is fighting for biolabs and money-laundering.
Russia is so much the good guy in this fight its unreal.
Yes yes, the longest three day war ever.
Orcs already lost the political and economic war. They are empire no more. They are de facto pushed out of Europe already and their strategic and geological situation is ruined. They are at best a Chicom vassal state at worst a failed state to be engulfed in civil war.
Ukraine already won their survival and the political war. At great cost they have prevailed. Rebuilding will be arduous, hopefully civilized world will help generously.
Russia will not rebuild for a very long time and none will help them.
Muscovy delenda est.
Fingers crossed.
“Biolabs” lol. There are no biolabs and no reason to put them in Ukraine. Meanwhile Russia is busting out T55s and bleeding out in Bakhmut.