Having read a lot today about the kerfuffle that Christine Anderson’s visit to Canada seems to have caused, I decided to have a closer look at what is allegedly some sort of neo-Nazi organization. There’s probably no better place to start than the actual platform of Alternative for Germany. Judging by the comments on social media, my guess is that most critics have never actually read that platform.
The party’s commitment to free market principles is a pleasant surprise coming from a European party, although that message gets muddled and watered down with support for UBI and a minimum wage. While they’re not classical liberals, the term “Nazi” seems to be a gross exaggeration.
Government should serve its citizens, and not vice versa.
Therefore, only lean government is good government. Govern-
ment should merely provide a framework within which its
citizens can thrive. A constant and often ideology-driven
expansion of government functions has reached financial
and practical limitations, and is a threat to the fundamen–
tal rights of freedom of its citizens. Government has taken
on too many tasks. There is a need to focus on four classic
functions performed by government: domestic and foreign
security, justice, foreign relations, and financial administra–
tion.
So libertarians are Nazis. I thought Nazis were authoritarians. I bet a lot of people have that one wrong. Learn something new every day.
Well the thing is, leftists are mistaken as to what Nazis really are……but much to their surprise, it’s actually THEM. And always have been.
I kinda knew that.
Yeah, but they don’t
“So libertarians are Nazis.”
That was my first thought as well…her party sounds more Libertarian than Nazi. I read a bunch of stuff about them, looking for any evidence of so-called “extremism” , “racism” or “hate-mongering”. Found nothing.
” I thought Nazis were authoritarians.”
Me too…and left-leaning, contrary to the popular narrative.
Has Canada swung so far to the left now that even an average run-of-the-mill Conservative looks like an “extremist” to most of us?
AfD is not remotely libertarian. Libertarians love liberty means they love mass immigration.
“AfD is not remotely libertarian. Libertarians love liberty means they love mass immigration.”
As always, you have just enough superficial understanding about this topic to make a fool of yourself:
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The libertarian perspective on immigration is often regarded as one of the core concepts of libertarian theory and philosophy.[1][2] There is considerable disagreement among libertarians as to what stance towards immigration best accords with libertarian principles. Some hold that restrictions on immigration are an infringement of the rights of immigrants and other property owners and constitute a threat to individual liberty. Others maintain that open borders amount to a policy of forced integration on the part of the state, and that protecting the rights of property holders requires that present governments adopt much more discriminatory policies on who is allowed to enter a country.
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Absolutely pure 100% Libertarianism (no government whatsoever) is just as ridiculous and unworkable as your own political stance taken to the other extreme: 100% socialism (government owns and controls everything). Real life, we grownups understand, requires compromise and acknowledgement of basic realities. You’re a moron, and a running joke here.
(but you already knew that, right?)
Pierre P seems to have folded pretty quick for his MP’s meeting with Christine Anderson.
I see nothing of her which would indicate a nazi like demeanour or political stand.
What will Canada’s political class say when real nazis arrive?
“What will Canada’s political class say when real nazis arrive?”
Is this a trick question? They will say “Seig Heil.”
“What will Canada’s political class say when real nazis arrive?”
They’re already here! They’re running our government!
As predicted;
I warned people not to put all their eggs into the PP basket. I’m really sorry to be proven right yet again.
You’re better off voting for the PPC. Send a message to the fake conservatives that you’re not going to take this shiite anymore. Even if the cons win the next election (ri-i-i-i-ight! Suuuure they are!), I’ve written off this country a long time ago. Nothing is going to change for the better even with PP as PM, so what’s the point of voting for a party that’s willing to throw you under the bus to satisfy their own political ambitions?
Imagine… “Freedom” is now a hateful. We truly are living in a dystopian nightmare.
I’m really disappointed in seeing that Leslyn Lewis caved, though. I thought she had more resilience than that.
https://twitter.com/MaximeBernier/status/1629175122115571713
“You’re better off voting for the PPC. Send a message to the fake conservatives that you’re not going to take this shiite anymore.”
I’ve done it twice now. There is no such thing as a wasted vote.
PePe showed his true colours today.
SQUISH! UNIPARTY! The Cons are Conning all of you into thinking they are an alternative to Blackie and Nazi Chomiak.
If you’re a Con supporter/card member, I encourage you to send an email to
PePe and his fellow MPs and ask why he folded like a squish.
I encourage you to go f yourself liberal scum
“Pierre P seems to have folded pretty quick for his MP’s meeting with Christine Anderson. ”
Bloody COWARD that he is. So predictable.
The odd person has questioned my immediate dismissal of Poilievre as a serious contender when I discovered his support for ‘supply management’, but that was just the *first* thing that tipped me off about who he really is and what he really believes…everything he has done since only reinforces that initial assessment. Voting to accuse all Canadians of genocide was just the icing on the cake, now this.
Erin O’Toole was a Liberal in disguise…so is Pierre Poilievre. Neither one has enough backbone to do what needs to be done to turn this country around.
In politics, when you are explaining, you are losing.
These MPs just offered up a nice sledgehammer with which the media and the Liberals will gleefully wield against them.
This kind of carelessness is why Max Bernier has been so easily marginalized. Why he will never win a single seat in Parliament.
It’s not entirely fair. But neither is politics.
Nobody asked them to explain. They were expected to grovel apologies for not being woke progressives.
They don’t need to offer a sledgehammer, their role is to be annihilated by the sledgehammer progressive hegemony already wields.
Cuckservatives never fail.
For someone not expecting much from him, I sure am disappointed in Poilievre.
You are not alone.
At this point when the left calls people Nazis or far right, I know that not only are they not, they are probably good people worth looking into and supporting.
Pierre Poliviere needs to figure out how to deal with these kinds of attacks real quick because this is what they’re going to go with. He’ll be literally blumpf/Hitler.
There’s nothing to figure out. His job is to lose. The progressive hegemony will make an example of him.
PP just lost the next election.
He is still cowtowing to MSM.
Yep. I’m back to not voting for the Cons if they’re going to reflexively bow and scrape to whatever lies the media propagate. Every time I think maybe they are an actual conservative party, they do something to demonstrate they’re just a controlled opposition.
“Yep. I’m back to not voting for the Cons if they’re going to reflexively bow and scrape to whatever lies the media propagate. Every time I think maybe they are an actual conservative party, they do something to demonstrate they’re just a controlled opposition.”
Yup. He lost me over his support for the Quebec dairy cartel and their despicable ‘supply management’ that forces low-income and middle class families to pay *three times* what the Americans do for dairy and poultry products. Then he voted to accuse all Canadians of GENOCIDE (!). Now this? Is there any left-wing exploitation that he won’t enthusiastically embrace?
Agree. Done with Pierre. Dissing Christine Anderson to stand beside Turdo and support Zelenskyy? So done with Pierre. I think it’s time to withdraw from society and hunker done and enjoy life while I can until the nukes start going off.
“She’s so evil we can’t give you any details.”
Sad but accurate in today’s climate of fear.
Only in Canada.
Funny thing that,my father knew what a Nazi was.
He survived 5 years of putting them down.
Statist Thugs.
Authoritarian Nitwits who glory in using the force of government to crush their enemies..
Who, their enemies, turn out to be every human with any decency in them.
Our Nasties specialize in labelling everyone else as Nazis..a projection of their malice and a confession of their character with every accusation.
The urge to save humanity is always a cover for the urge to control humanity.
The Blue Tie wing of Can Ahh Duhs Uni-Party cannot fight,they are Statist Thugs who worship the ability of government,a cabal of special interests and parasites, to steal at will.
The chances of any of our self styled “Conservatives” standing up for individual rights and freedoms???
Basically zero.
Not one spoke up against the insanity of Dread Covid Theatre,an overbearing example of State Abuse of the citizenry.
They had damn near 3 years to speak..
What did we hear?
And now this free speaking European strolls amongst us,exposing our uni-party for the Statist Scum they be.
Yeah,she speaks for individual freedoms and rights,she must be a Nazi..Just ask CBC.
JR, For me, your post created “Nazsties” and I think I’m gonna steal it thank you very much.
I think we should calm our tits. The text is from Global (top bastards in this business) and signed by ‘Staff’, meaning no accountability. Plus, we don’t know all the context.
Even if all this would be true, PP is light years ahead of PM Scumbag.
That was yesterday.
And it wasn’t Global….it was Lilley at the Sun.
If PP didn’t say that he should fire his ‘press secretary’ that communicated with Lilley.
Apparently Leslyn Lewis is also dissing Christine.
Watch PPC go up in polls.
They had my vote in ’21, and will again the next election.
“Even if all this would be true, PP is light years ahead of PM Scumbag.”
Yes, but still not worthy of my vote, sadly. I know how many people will whine that “you’re just going to re-elect Justin Trudeau”, but that’s okay. I’m not supporting someone just because he is perceived as ‘less bad’ than the alternative (like Zelensky, for example)…that just plays right into their hands.
This is a Giant Douche vs. Turd Sandwich situation if ever there was one…
Fred, “This is a Giant Douche vs. Turd Sandwich situation if ever there was one…” = Perfect!
Comment disappeared. Seems to happen a lot lately. Funny how the Nazi lover Colon isn’t banned but comments calling out Nazis disappear. ET, Duke, all the old posters gone, replaced by bigots and sub 86ers.
I’m done with this site. Adios.
As the old saying goes….don’t let the door….
Mine disappeared too.
I had a rather large post and forgot to save to to my clipboard
For saying Nazism is illegal in Germany.
Calling someone a Nazi there will get you sued for deformation.
What is a sub 86er?
IQ?
Age?
Shoe size?
Yes the disappearing comment thing is mighty irritating.
Especially the long ones.
What a great way to degrade a good website,intercept and destroy random inputs until users get completely POed.
Just wait until our government appointed Central Scrutinizers get to vet every comment..
Government Job creation..
At its finest.
Nazi is like the N word.. Its lost all meaning.. Anybody who isn’t a big government loving Bolshevik is a Nazi..
Pepe is just carrying out his orders from the WEF. He’s just another puppet, working hard to hide his WEF background.
He just lost the election and handed Max a huge gift.
“Pepe is just carrying out his orders from the WEF.”
The WEF? The linked article tells us, in two separate paragraphs, exactly who is issuing his orders:
“The chair of the Canadian Anti-Hate Network and at least two Canadian Jewish organizations expressed concern about the MPs having dinner with Anderson.”
“The Centre for Israel and Jewish Affairs said it appreciates Poilievre’s clear rejection of Anderson’s views but MPs must do more research before agreeing to such meetings.”
Poilievre takes his orders from Bernie Farber, not Klaus Schwab.
Poilievre takes his orders from Bernie Farber, not Klaus Schwab.
So you’re saying Poliviere is a lieutenant, not a captain???
“The chair of the Canadian Anti-Hate Network”
LOL…those people spread more hate than any of the groups they target.
Let’s stop being distracted by phantom Nazis, as the Liberals want us to.
This is about distracting everyone from Justin’s collusion with the Chinese government.
Also – I knew that they would do this eventually:
“Saying she will never accept being called “vile and intolerant” by a man “who wore blackface,” Conservative MP Dr. Leslyn Lewis is demanding Prime Minister Justin Trudeau apologize to her and her colleagues — and immediately resign from office.”
https://torontosun.com/news/national/warmington-conservative-mp-leslyn-lewis-wont-be-called-racist-by-blackface-pm
Good for her!!
Now will she say the same to PP?
He threw her under the bus.
I hope that she does.
If she doesn’t, it’s simply because she is a better person and not a petty one like a certain blackface-wearing, Jew-hating moron prime minister we could name.
Anderson’s message is the one that our progressive leaders fear the most. They cannot allow it to propagate in Canada or they will lose their cushy positions and might have to -GASP- get a real job and work for a living.
As for PP falling into line by calling her vile and racist, I’m really not surprised. He seems to have become O’Toole light. I’m still going to vote for him because a ballot cast for Max is less than useless and Trudeau and the Libs need to go.
The theatre of farce continues.
Poilievre handled this like an amateur. He should have asked what made Christine Anderson a nazi? There’s nothing in AfD’s platform that is remotely nazi. Anderson has guts, Poilievre not so much.
Poilievre handled this exactly correctly, except that he hasn’t (yet) taken a paddle to the dummies who met with Anderson. You don’t get to indulge in this kind of crap and win elections.
Right. Stick with the Islamists, true fascists and communists as the WEF commands, then one gets to “win” an election.
Exactly! You go to where the dark money is to win an election.
Of course we’re all going to vote Conservative anyway, because the alternative is Trudeau and the criminal Liberal Party and quite literally national default.
Bring on the national default. Doesn’t matter much at this point anyway. At least if we suffer complete collapse the foreigners might chose to go somewhere else.
“Bring on the national default. Doesn’t matter much at this point anyway.”
YES!
The CPC didn’t figure this out after Andrew Scheer. They still didn’t get it after Erin O’Toole. Maybe this next election will *finally* clue them in when they once again see their support go elsewhere.
Canadians don’t have any great love for Justin Trudeau, and the polls prove it. What they need is a real Conservative alternative.
Why vote Liberal Lite when you can just vote Liberal?
Either way, this works out for Justin who desperately needs the support.
Pierre looks bad and gets no votes.
Pierre caves in, people lose confidence in him and gets no votes.
Pierre should have shut his fool yap and realised that this was a way for Justin to avoid answering for his Vichy collusion.
Ezra Levant’s take on Pierre’s Erin O Fool moment:
https://www.rebelnews.com/ezra_levant_show_february_24_2023
Real journalism by Rebel News
https://twitter.com/ThevoiceAlexa/status/1629238967378780164?t=RP9q9FrHeJrNnczfUncMkw&s=19
Wouldn’t it be refreshing to hear Christine Anderson’s words come out of Poilievre mouth.
Excellent!!
Ezra, true to form, did the investigative journalism to find out exactly what is so ‘nazi’, and so vile about Christine Anderson.
He followed links supplied by Kinsella as ‘proof’.
Turns out Kinsella and Lilley have spread lies, classic misinformation.
What a surprise! Is Kinsella still on O’Toole’s payroll?
Sad to see PP turtling already but I suspected he also was a lightweight. Guess Max will continue to get my support but the future for the west is in independence anyways.
Any party or organization that is against mass immigration and trade is against free market principles. The AfD has also dabbled in anti-semitic weirdness and bought into the anti-Muslim hysteria. Lewis et alia were fools to meet with this idiot. Kudos to Pierre for unabashedly slamming them.
Ha!
Look who is standing up for PePe!
Well, I am convinced. I will vote for PePe cuz Unme admires him!!
Nearly every political party, including all the larger mainstream ones, are against unfettered free trade and immigration. They all want restrictions on trade and immigration to one degree or another. I’m personally opposed to restrictions on either. A careful reading of the platform of the AFD indicates that they fall pretty much within the boundaries of all the other parties on these issues. If this makes them idiots, then this would also be true of almost all other parties everywhere.
“A careful reading of the platform of the AFD indicates that they fall pretty much within the boundaries of all the other parties on these issues.”
1) I think that’s a lie 2) There’s more to life than platforms. The AfD’s rhetoric has been stridently anti-immigration. They are not remotely within any norm.
In other words,you are too lazy to read it.
If immigration is so great,when are you leaving?
Live up to your words.
UnMe has already made it clear that he thinks kids are for diddling and nothing else, and barring that they should be aborted.
Now he has made it clear that a person entering the country through the birth canal should be killed, but people sneaking over the border are fine.
I would vote conservative.
If one was on the ballot.
Pierre Poliviere is something else.
Pierre Poilievre’s panic is natural.
We are watching a career parasite at play.
He cannot deal with the media,because that is his measuring stick.
He has no other work experience to judge himself by.
Poliviere …. Polls,there is a joke there somewhere.
Go back and replay his meetings with the real Canadian political opposition,in Ottawa last year.
Does he take a stand?
Does he have any principles?
Or does he hoover around the edges and then use the Truckers as a fund raising experience?
What of those “Sacred Rights and Freedoms of ‘THE CANADIAN CHARTER OF RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS”?
Seen Pierre or any of his minions acting as if they might be real?
Or is The State and the management there of, the greater concern?
Canada is broken and there is no “All the Kings Men” to put it back together again.
In fact the thin skinned bloated bureaus are perfect Humpty Dumpties.
They shattered before our eyes under the Dread Covid Theatre,but these institutions have been deadwood for decades.
Confederation has failed.
The Federal Government sees itself as the Supreme Soviet and acts accordingly.
And we see similar results.
Grandiose 5 year plans,from the central planners,none of whom could build a woodframe house,all certain that the individual citizen must obey.
Subsidizing failure and crippling performance,our parasitic overload has achieved remarkable success,using our own blood sweat and tears to destroy us.
When all hope is gone,human nature provides other motives.
None of them particularly healthy for public wealth,order or tranquility.
Revenge and Retribution..Resignation and Apathy..Surrender and Slavery..they all are symptoms of a society in decline.
Enjoy the decline.?
Or banish the destroyers from your midst?
Maybe Canada is too big to be self governing.
Maybe central government is poison to individual rights and freedoms?
Maybe Welfare States cannot survive,on their own resources?
Can Ahh Duh is a good case study.
6 decades of Welfare “investment” have produced what benefit to those contributing to the State Coffers?
Are we richer,happier ,with more confidence in the future of our offspring?
Those of us who are not Government Trust Fund beneficiaries?
From my perch, PP can and will change nothing.
We are past that point where we can “Vote our way out”.
Bankruptcy and ever more frantic theft by Government are our future.
O.P.M is so addictive to those who have never worked,that they will do anything to get another fix.
If you think Crack addicts are depraved and insane,wait and see how the O.P.M addicts behave as it evaporates..
“How low can they go?”.
Look to history,we have seen this movie before.
And these druggies will never enter detox voluntarily.
We need a New Country,with easily defended borders.
Bang on!
So what’s the poop? Has it been verified PP endorsed his staffer’s stupid comment?
Either verify or fire the idiot. I’ll wait.
In my opinion… Libertarianism is an a la carte conservativism ( not to be confused with Conservatism a differently branded a la carte conservativism which bears the legacy of Disraeli’s syntax / spelling error.)
Poilievre’s condemnation is not drawn from any of these troughs. As the leader of a conservative type party he has a responsibility to avoid ad hominem. This statement is a grotesque failure as it is absent substantiation.
As to the master Poilievre serves one must be observant that many (a generalization) people of Jewish heritage have an emotional attachment to their immigrant legacy and are prone to conflate anti immigration with anti immigrant with anti semitism. Globalism has an obvious appeal to this emotional perspective. Poilievre’s statement serves both in that no further distinguishing data is available. Nor is it necessary.
Poilievre has deviated from common sense Conservatism and/or conservativism. I think this is a fear based political reaction hedging on the association of Nazism with this newer German political entity which, in itself, is a bigoted approach absent substantive evidence.
There’s no win here. Even if the “Alternative for Germany” turns out to be a bunch of goose stepping morons, (not likely) Poilievre has jumped the shark.
Again: Poilievre has demonstrated basic political competency. You people need to interact with the real world some more. Or at all.
“conflate anti immigration with anti immigrant with anti semitism.”
“It’s the same picture”
Give the projection a rest Ummee..
“You people need to interact with the real world some more. Or at all.”
From your vast worldly experience ,of licking your Wet Lab Bench,you hasten to advise us?
Have you ever attempted to earn a living,as opposed to taking a wage?
Real World..heh.
In your “real world” a man can become a woman but you can’t define what a woman which is the point as it helps obliterate normal terms and definitions.
There’s nothing more woman-hating than the transgender movement who are celebrated for portraying women as night-crawling, sex-craving, slut caricatures as it is their championship idea of what a “real” woman is.
Cool story bro not sure what it has to do with me or the OP. I’m with Jesse Singal on this file.
It would have been even more competent if he had drawn our attention to Justin’s Fidel Castro eulogy and every word of every public statement that Jagmeet has ever made about Air India, and then pointed out the double standard.
No that’s pathetic whataboutism and everyone would have called it out as such.
Then everyone could have been educated about Fidel putting gay people in concentration camps. After that they could have been asked how that compares to the worst thing that Christine Anderson has ever said or done. Jagmeet is a pension hound and the ultimate COVID rules and “fight the rich” hypocrite, yet he’s allowed to get away with it.
Something CBC didn’t report and I wonder why.
https://twitter.com/AndersonAfDMdEP/status/1629228216031248384
Within the hallowed halls of the building on the Hill someone has mightily skrewed up. What Trudeau in his wildest dreams called a fringe minority has taken root in Canada and PeePee didn’t have the foresight never mind the foreskin and accessories to see how he could have ridden along with the growing populist movement. We have in this country three eunuchs that have as much right to leading the country as the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny, and Santa Claus combined. The problem is that the vast majority of Canadians vote for the party that their parents voted for, with never a thought to what the party has actually delivered over their lifetime.
I made a reference on this site a couple of years back about the lifeboat anology, it would appear that some are starting to understand that unfettered immigration is not the salvation that politicians keep telling us it is. By the size of this hastily constructed Convoy Anniversary parade it would appear that Can Ah Duh may be turning off the detour and making the road back to CANADA, we can only hope that Mad Max can take the wheel and get us there quicker.
“some are starting to understand that unfettered immigration is not the salvation that politicians keep telling us it is.”
The polls are clear that Canadians turned from being largely unhappy to immigration to largely loving it in the late ’90s and never went back. And it is indeed pure salvation. There is literally no downside.
The only ‘wheel’ Max is taking is one in a Fisher Price toyset.
Did he learn nothing from O’Toole?
You’re supposed to wait till AFTER the election before urinating on your base.
Are they still pretending that Diagolon isn’t a drunken joke?
The answer to that would be “yes.”
“Diagolon is a Canadian alt-right organization which was considered significant to the Canada convoy protest by the Government of Canada. It is led by Jeremy MacKenzie . Organisation and aims Diagolon is a right wing, [1] alt-right, [2] extremist [3] militia network with chapters throughout Canada. [1]”
this according to wikipedia.
Yes, indeedy, an alt-right extremist militia network with chapters throughout Canada.
I shite you not.
HiHo, Yah, well wikipedia ain’t exactly conservative, so that statement has the lies baked in.
Yup.
Lies that the entire political class of Canada is willing to foist on us, except for Mad Max.
Why yes they are,for without that boogey man they got nothing.
Kind of shows what fools we have in office.
A drunken joke,becomes a basis for declaring what used to be called “The War Measures Act” and a snivelling Liberal yes man fronts an inquiry to tell us?
“Emergency” Absolutely,Sonny boy was in a panic..thats all the grounds his hencemen need to strip all citizens of their rights..”
A blinder well played comrade Rouseau ..Uncle or not.
…hencemen
An enjoyable typo evoking flashbacks from the Flying Circus days. I see efeet beaurocratic types fully embroiled with lowering social credit scores, tweeting slanderous remarks, and stoking cancel culture all the while using the adverb “hence” with annoying frequency.
… or would you rather just see Doug.
…
Damn “h’s”
Dropping out with no explanation..
But oddly fitting,these are the same creatures who promoted”It depends what the meaning of “is” is.
Hence everything is subjective and hencemen defend the indefensible with their false equivalencies and what about it isms..
And our boys lie all the time,but one of yours was caught in a lie in 1999,hence all politicians lie..
Hencemen, willing to excuse evil,any way they can..
Where as Henchmen?
Better villains by far.
“Are they still pretending that Diagolon isn’t a drunken joke?”
Yeah, ask them where they got the name from…