If consumers supported the EV market as much as the green lobby imagines they do, there would be no need for such punitive mandates. City hall would be well advised to explore the impact of these measures on the overall power grid too, but that might also conflict with certain magical narratives.
Vancouver city hall is reportedly looking into a new policy fixated on gas stations that fail to support electric vehicle (EV) charging. If passed, gas stations will incur an annual fee of $10,000 for failing to provide EV charging stations.
…gas stations must provide 50 kilowatts of charging power. This would be enough for a single DC fast charger. Additionally, parking lots must provide a minimum of 26.6 kilowatts, enough for four Level 2 chargers. These can typically provide between 20 to 50 kilowatts per hour.
They really do want a revolution.
If you’re genuinely concerned about Global Warming, the alleged cause of all this government over-reach, check out the rate of sea level rise in Victoria.
One if by land,
Two if by sea,
In four thousand years,
A meter for thee.
https://climatediscussionnexus.com/2022/04/13/cdn-by-the-sea-victoria-bc/
From the source story at https://theprovince.com/news/local-news/city-proposes-10000-annual-fee-for-gas-stations-without-ev-charging/wcm/d731eb63-b601-4f0d-b8db-0026456136f7
“Parking lots would have to provide at least 26.6 kilowatts, which would be enough for four Level 2 chargers, which typically provide 20-50 kilometres per hour of charging. Parking lots with less than 60 stalls would be exempt.”
Clearly the author of the story has a firm grasp of the technology.
20-50 kilometres per hour of charging
Now, is that considered a fast or a slow charge?
That would be a “long” charge.
Why don’t green politicians invest in battery recharging stations? Suggest they invest their pensions.
But shouldn’t all the greenies be taking public transit? So they really don’t need EVs at all.
It’s time to simply ignore any idiotic laws that the Marxists propose. Just ignore them completely.
When are the people choosing to buy EVs going to actually pay the full cost? Do the elected sociopaths that point guns and offer bribes with other people’s money not actually believe in their mining-intense, spontaneously combustible eco-bromides such that they must be forced on people?
This is a violation of the Tied Selling statutes of Canadian law, is it not?
I bet that not one employee or elected rep has given up their parking privileges let alone their automobile yet.
I hold the environmental enthusiasts to account that they have not as yet demanded these politicians and bureaucrats be the first ones to act in accordance with the ways of greenie.
Before even one charging station is installed the parking garage at city hall needs to be barricaded and all city hall (employed and elected) are to have their private vehicle confiscated. They claim it’s not needed, so show me how you do that.
I have no problem with people choosing to buy an EV. I strongly object to the government picking market winners and losers and using the tax dollars I contribute to subsidize personal choice of others. Liberals are all in favor of free choice until the choice of another contradicts their own choices. Scratch a liberal, find a dictator.
Scratch a Liberal, smell a skunk.
You’ve just offended skunks with that comparison.
Once one understands that the “Green Lobby” is just a front for anti humanism or depopulation, to put a finer point on it, things are immensely more clearer.
Know your enemy. They want you dead and gone.
We simply don’t have the infrastructure for EV’s, aside from the fact they use more energy to produce in the first place. I’ll never buy one.
https://saltbushclub.com/2022/02/02/charging-electric-cars/
Some comments regarding EV’s. Don’t know the author or where it was originally posted but many of the points raised are never discussed by the Green fanatics , nor the fact there are not enough resources to replace gas/diesel vehicles one-to-one with EV’s … but that is perhaps the plan .
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Electric Vehicles
The utility companies have thus far had little to say about the cost projections to operate electric vehicles (EVs) or the increased rates that they will be required to charge their customers. It is not just the total amount of electricity required, but the transmission lines and fast charging capacity that must be built at existing filling stations. Neither wind nor solar can support any of it. Electric vehicles will never become the mainstream of transportation!
In the first part of our exposé on the problems with electric vehicles (EVs), we showed that they were too expensive, too unreliable, rely on materials mined in China and other unfriendly countries, and require more electricity than the nation can afford. In this second part, we address other factors that will make any sensible reader avoid EVs like the plague
EV Charging Insanity
In order to match the 2,000 cars that a typical filling station can service in a busy 12 hours, an EV charging station would require 600, 50-watt chargers at an estimated cost of $24 million and a supply of 30 megawatts of power from the grid. That is enough to power 20,000 homes. No one likely thinks about the fact that it can take 30 minutes to 8 hours to recharge a vehicle between empty or just topping off. What are the drivers doing during that time?
ICSC-Canada board member New Zealand-based consulting engineer Bryan Leyland describes why installing electric car charging stations in a city is impractical:
“If you’ve got cars coming into a petrol station, they would stay for an average of five minutes. If you’ve got cars coming into an electric charging station, they would be at least 30 minutes, possibly an hour, but let’s say its 30 minutes. So that’s six times the surface area to park the cars while they’re being charged. So, multiply every petrol station in a city by six. Where are you going to find the place to put them?”
The government of the United Kingdom is already starting to plan for power shortages caused by the charging of thousands of EVs. Starting in June 2022, the government will restrict the time of day you can charge your EV battery. To do this, they will employ smart meters that are programmed to automatically switch off EV charging in peak times to avoid potential blackouts.
In particular, the latest UK chargers will be pre-set to not function during 9-hours of peak loads, from 8 am to 11 am (3-hours), and 4 pm to 10 pm (6-hours). Unbelievably, the UK technology decides when and if an EV can be charged, and even allows EV batteries to be drained into the UK grid if required. Imagine charging your car all night only to discover in the morning that your battery is flat since the state took the power back. Better keep your gas-powered car as a reliable and immediately available backup! While EV charging will be an attractive source of revenue generation for the government, American citizens will be up in arms.
Used Car Market
The average used EV will need a new battery before an owner can sell it, pricing them well above used internal combustion cars. The average age of an American car on the road is 12 years. A 12-year-old EV will be on its third battery. A Tesla battery typically costs $10,000 so there will not be many 12-year-old EVs on the road. Good luck trying to sell your used green fairy tale electric car!
Tuomas Katainen, an enterprising Finish Tesla owner, had an imaginative solution to the battery replacement problem—he blew up his car! New York City-based Insider magazine reported (December 27, 2021):
“The shop told him the faulty battery needed to be replaced, at a cost of about $22,000. In addition to the hefty fee, the work would need to be authorized by Tesla…Rather than shell out half the cost of a new Tesla to fix an old one, Katainen decided to do something different… The demolition experts from the YouTube channel Pommijätkät (Bomb Dudes) strapped 66 pounds of high explosives to the car and surrounded the area with slow-motion cameras…the 14 hotdog-shaped charges erupt into a blinding ball of fire, sending a massive shockwave rippling out from the car…The videos of the explosion have a combined 5 million views.”
We understand that the standard Tesla warranty does not cover “damage resulting from intentional actions,” like blowing the car up for a YouTube video.
EVs Per Block In Your Neighborhood
A home charging system for a Tesla requires a 75-amp service. The average house is equipped with 100-amp service. On most suburban streets the electrical infrastructure would be unable to carry more than three houses with a single Tesla. For half the homes on your block to have electric vehicles, the system would be wildly overloaded.
Batteries
Although the modern lithium-ion battery is four times better than the old lead-acid battery, gasoline holds 80 times the energy density. The great lithium battery in your cell phone weighs less than an ounce while the Tesla battery weighs 1,000 pounds. And what do we get for this huge cost and weight? We get a car that is far less convenient and less useful than cars powered by internal combustion engines. Bryan Leyland explained why:
When the Model T came out, it was a dramatic improvement on the horse and cart. The electric car is a step backward into the equivalence of an ordinary car with a tiny petrol tank that takes half an hour to fill. It offers nothing in the way of convenience or extra facilities.”
Our Conclusion
The electric automobile will always be around in a niche market likely never exceeding 10% of the cars on the road. All automobile manufacturers are investing in their output and all will be disappointed in their sales. Perhaps they know this and will manufacture just what they know they can sell….
The government knows:
a) the majority of Canadians cannot afford to buy an electric car
b) we don’t have the infrastructure to permit everyone to charge their EV
They want you to take public transit.
Where is your electric car “charging station”?
Over beside the credit card “charging station”, infrastructure, electricity, profit, and my forced time to put into it aren’t free.
Here’s an idea! Let the FREE MARKETPLACE decide when/where to install charging stations. And let them charge (pun intended) whatever they want for the charging service. I suspect they could charge anything they want … as an ev driver will pay ANYTHING to keep their car from fully discharging and dying … requiring a complete battery replacement.
No more subsidies for ev’s
Its important to remember that Globalists run every level of Government out in British Columbia… Anal Shwab, the PLA/CCP, Soros etc etc. own every politician in the Province.
Kennedy Stewart is a scumbag grifter for the Globalist Reich… he will be a very rich man once he is done doing the bidding of the Globalist 4th Reich from the Vancouver Mayors office… he’s just like other Globalist sleazeballs that are owned by the CCP or other Globalist shitstains that serve on the council or in the Mayors office.
Extreme shitstain comrade Gregor Robertson came out of the Mayors office of Vancouver with a luxury Penthouse suite in Shanghai and a gigantic Mansion in Shaughnessy, one of the most expensive places to live in Vancouver.
The Mayors salary is very very good, they give themselves raises anytime they feel like it… but not Penthouse, Mansion good. Nothing to see here.
The only jurisdiction more corrupt then the Mayors office of Vancouver is the Legislature in Victoria and the PMO in Oddawa…
They are all owned and ruled over by traitor Globalists.
NDP shitstain Kennedy Stewart will come out of the Mayors office a very very rich man, he’s a Globalist sellout, in another world he would be a guard in a Concentration camp, a job where Stewart would excel.
Most people will recharge their EVs at home at night or at work during the day. Gas stations will largely disappear. It wouldn’t make sense to have Level 1 or 2 chargers at a gas station because it would take several hours to recharge – kind of like running out of gas. Single fast chargers (480 V) placed conveniently around the city and available via credit card at 4x the cost of home electricity would serve to help those who forgot to recharge. It’s not as big a deal as people think.
However, the total amount of EVs charging at night would be a huge (I think insurmountable) problem that could only be solved by limiting the amount of vehicles available. Imagine, for example, coming home at night to charge at your Level 2 charger and your wife’s EV is already plugged in. You would probably need 400 A service, and no air conditioning in the house.
Thankfully the sun doesn’t shine at night, so all the vast arrays of solar panels will be idle. It’s gonna be fantastic.
And of course the biggest issue is what to do without all the tax from gasoline sales? Nobody is mentioning that one!
Notice that EV drivers don’t pay any road tax that ICE drivers pay but use the same roads. Just one more subsidy for the upper-crust virtue signalers of society at the expense of joe six-pack.
I toured the new Union Hall for the provincial government employees. Nice place. Out back in the parking lot was 4 or 5 charging stations. Struck me a bit funny. All the cars in the charging stations were gas powered and as I was looking at those things I was wondering why there isn’t gasoline available in the same lot. I mean if I have to fuel up my electric there are convenient charging stations at work but I have to drive to the nearest gas station to gas up the pickup. Hmmmm
$10,000 a year huh?
On a quick fingers and thumbs calculation it would be cheaper to not install the charging bays and just wear the expense.
The idea is to force EVs over time. Combine it with smart meters that can limit how much, when and… if… you are allowed to charge. Did you use up your energy ration with cooking, heating or your filthy air conditioner? No juice for you! Another step in control. The grid can’t take it, and they know it.