Customer Service

I called RBC this morning on the customer service line. The representative brought up my accounts and investments, and we both agreed that I have no mortgage, no debt and no loans. Just savings and investments.

Then I explained that, as a political blogger who is on record as supporting the trucker protests, I believe my assets are no longer safe at the Royal Bank. She asked why I felt that way.

“The Emergency Act. I have no confidence my assets are secure from the government in your bank, if they can be seized without warrant or notice because of my political speech and beliefs.”

All she could say was that “we have received no directive from the government” (interesting) and that I should speak with my branch manager.

What you can do: do the same.

53 Replies to “Customer Service”

  1. Yes! Because somebody(ies) higher up the the food chain in the RBC, and other banks are among the ones holding his leash and they need to understand that their golem has turned on them.

  2. Spoke with Coast Capital Savings yesterday. Customer service says they will follow Trudeau regime edicts and seize funds if instructed.

  3. Get invested into some physical assets. For example you are in the heart of farmland. You will never starve if you own land.

      1. Well ahead of you, Kuz, but in a different direction. The freeze dryer I ordered back at the start of January has been shipped and is now just tied up in border customs, hopefully to soon arrive. I won’t mention the brand, but Peavy Mart used to sell them until the manufacturer decided that regulatory changes made it prohibitive to continue dealing with Canada. So far I’m into it for $3652 USD (inc extra parts and upgrades). It’ll be worth it over time as I expect inflation to be pervasive and sustained.

  4. Can you take part of your money in other currencies and/or precious metals when you withdraw it?
    Because I do not think that Canadian Dollars will be very stable in the short to medium term.

    I don’t think any currencies will be stable in the medium term either.

  5. Yes, no directive from the government … UNTIL … they suddenly receive a directive from the government and all your assets are seized. Without warning.

    Probably for allowing white supremacist, homophobic, transphobic, misogynistic, cisgendered, climate denying, foreign national MAGA-ists, like me to comment on your site.

    Sorry.

  6. Kate, I just heard you on Gormley with Couros. They are lying. I work with a lady that has a sister that works with a credit union in Saskatchewan, they were given a letter from the government. I asked for a copy but because it came via Snapchat, no picture. They have very heavy overly broad instructions that allows them to freeze accounts with impunity and no grievance process. All the bank does is “believe” that the funds are suspect and that’s it. We are in banana land right now.

  7. “All she could say was that “we have received no directive from the government” (interesting) and that I should speak with my branch manager.”

    The part left unsaid, “About Your Account.”
    “YET”

  8. Not a Canadian.

    Has your Parliament had an actual vote on the implementation of the Emergency Act?
    Or are all these Canadian Financial Institutions doing these things immediately and solely on the word of your Prime Minister and his party?

    If so, that is really scary.

    1. RD: The Emergency Act was invoked by the Liberal Trudeau government via an Order-in- Council (OIC). Cabinet meets, decides to invoke the act, the OIC is drafted and the Governor general of Canada signs it thereby bringing it into force for 30 days, with extensions possible. Essentially, what the prime minister wants in Cabinet the prime minister gets.

      The invocation must be reviewed in parliament within a short period of time. The Trudeau government does not have a majority in the House of Commons but is supported by the limousine socialist party of Jagmeet Singh (New Democratic Party) who in shockingly bigoted tweet stated, “Today Conservative MPs have endorsed a convoy led by those that claim the superiority of the white bloodline and equate Islam to a disease.” There will be no relief from parliament.

      The Conservative party in opposition has stated they will not support the use of the Emergencies Act, but they lack the votes to overturn it.

      1. You won’t get any support from the NDP; they always vote in lockstep, no real democracy in that party. If you don’t want Marshall Law in Canada longer than a week, the focus must be on the Liberals.

      2. Jagmeet’s tweet exposes hatred towards a group that includes a Jewish guy and a Metis woman and in the broader sense the larger group. It occurs to me a complaint to the Human Rights boards would be in order. Imagine if hundreds of complaints were received about Trudeau’s defamation of the nonwasp component.

    2. It is illegal, the emergency act is not passed. Don’t sweat anything there a Lawyers who have this all on lock. If you don’t like something contact the military if you want action.

  9. I think this should be a serious concern for anyone supporting any conservative cause, through donations or through reading and commenting on sites like this. Clearly the goal of the Trudeau / WEF regime is control of communications (internet) as well as finances (via digital currency). And at this point I’m not sure that the majority of Canadians won’t support these goals.

  10. As Kate says, only way to avoid confiscation – never thought it would come to this in Canada, but there you go – is to locate your assets in another country where the government has no ability to seize them. Why do you think the rich routinely buy big mansions in various countries? To live in a few days a year? It’s called insurance. Great short and succint book for investors is William Bernstein’s Deep Risk, where he discusses this and other types of permanently impoverishing human and natural calamities that have wiped people out in the past. Ironically, since 1900 or so, epidemics like the famous 1918 flu which killed 20% of infected and especially productive young, caused barely a ripple. Today’s COVID, the disease sure isn’t doing it, but the (un)intended side effects of government financial and societal interventions are heading that way.

  11. Just spoke with my local credit union in Alberta. Said that they have not received any directive from the government – that it has not been mandated yet but that yes, they would have to follow any federal directive. The rep was quite flustered – I would say that they are getting a very high volume of calls regarding the same thing.

  12. I’m guessing that the potential for pissing off people who may know where there are critical infrastructure weak points, or who have high security clearances, or both, is high.
    If they’re as calm as a bomb then you’ve made a really, really fucking stupid error.

    1. Error , as in alerting them to your situation.
      Always best to assume the worst and plan accordingly.
      Fly under the radar.

  13. Just spoke with my local credit union here in Alberta. Said that they have not received any directive from the government – that it has not been mandated yet but that yes, they would have to follow any federal directive. The rep was quite flustered – I would say that they are getting a very high volume of calls regarding the same thing.

  14. Trudeau is bluffing with the Emergency Measures act in an attempt to spook the truckers and give the impression to some dumb cops that it is automatically invoked on General Trudeau’s command.

    From the moment the Emergency Measures act is announced the government has 7 days to have a vote in Parliament AND the Senate and both Houses must pass it unanimously otherwise it expires.

    The clock is ticking … we are at day 4 and Trudeau is delaying a vote in Parliament … AND the Emergency Measures act is not yet in place until ratified by Parliament and the Senate.

    If he had the support he would have held the vote not delayed it.

    1. Required debate in the HoC is currently being done (see links above), and it only needs a simple majority in each house. If it passes the House, I would expect the debate & vote in the Senate to take place tomorrow.

    2. My understanding is that while parliament could vote not to support the invocation of the Act, thereby at that point withdrawing authorization for its use, the Emergencies Act is in force now as the Governor General signed the Order in Council invoking it. As the NDP props up this minority Liberal government parliament will grant no relief.

    3. Parliament has UP TO 7 days to ratify the Emergency Act; it can be done sooner. Trudeau will want to ram this through as quickly as possible, before politicians get cold feet. If you haven’t done so yet, call and email your MP and your Senators. Make sure they know this vote isn’t a slam-dunk for them.

  15. I have a question. Does getting the Emergencies Act legislation passed give the Trudeau government the power to ram through Bill C11 into law? If so we are screwed.

  16. Judy, we’re never screwed. As long as there’s life in us, there’s the capacity to fight back. A populace held in place by brute force alone will always find a way to gum up the gears of the machine and to fight back against tyranny until it collapses under its own weight.

    Even the Soviet Union collapsed this way.

    Take heart, and have faith.

  17. The debate is happening, and and the WEF whore Freeland is doing a press conference bragging about how many people they have crushed. anybody who thinks this vote matters is delusional. This is for show. They will do whatever they want.

  18. Banks deliberately keep their employees in the dark. All their ‘investment advisors’ know of investment are their own banks products. Don’t know anything of the outside market and the bank likes it that way.

    So if you combine that level of knowledge with a person who lives on social media and is politically unsophisticated you get an advisor who is giving you advice on something they know nothing about. Perfect bank employee.

  19. I wouldn’t necessarily believe what a bank telephone customer service rep has to say. They are the last to be told what’s really going on at higher levels.

  20. Here’s a question: who in their right minds would hand over complete power over to ONE person, especially a person whose stupidity is beyond fathoming?

    Justin can rule by fiat and defy any attempt to be medicated for his mental illness and no one can or will stop him.

    This is bullsh–.

    1. Justin can rule by fiat and defy any attempt to be medicated for his mental illness and no one can or will stop him.

      Lots of people could stop him. Lots. Starting with members of his own caucus. Then there’s the NDP. Or all the premiers could vehemently refuse to endorse implementation of the Emergencies Act within their province. Or the courts could intervene. Seizure/freezing of accounts on the pretext of “financing terrorism” is ludicrous and gross overreach on its face. A court could say the government’s actual use of the law is not a proper use as prescribed. The bureaucrats could down tools. The banks could refuse to comply. Canadians from coast to coast could rise up in protest.

      All these things are conceptually possible to stop one unstable and mentally ill person from effectively declaring himself the God Pharaoh. The fact that no one is willing to stop him, (from what we know so far), is absolutely astonishing. This is how countries become failed states. No moral integrity. No courage of conviction.

    2. In a Senate debate, Senator Gallus says the Emperor has written the Senate from Capri again demanding another arrest, this time the Emperor’s own nephew Drusus, but no documents were produced, or specific allegations adduced. The Emperor demands only their consent.

      Gallus says he was taught to sign a document only after he has read the fine print and understands the details, and he walks out in disgust. Another senator asks that the question be put for the exile of Drusus; the remaining Senators bleat aye.

      Gallus is soon after informed by an officer of the Praetorian Guard that he has a warrant signed by the Emperor for his arrest. Gallus asks on what charge; the officer replies “for inciting enmity between the Emperor and Sejanus”, (Sejanus is the Emperor’s chief minister). Gallus asks if it is a joke, but soldiers haul him off as he protests.

      In his chamber, Sejanus orders Gallus to sign a confession that he conspired with Drusus to subvert the armies of the Rhine. Gallus replies that since Sejanus wrote it himself, he can put his own signature to it. A soldier strikes Gallus. Sejanus tells Gallus to sign it willingly now, or they will just end up forcing him. Gallus says he will sign nothing for them just for Sejanus to produce after he’s dead. Gallus tells Sejanus to bring him to trial or murder him and take the consequences. Sejanus responds that no trial is needed to prove his guilt. Gallus accuses Sejanus of acting like a small-town corrupt policeman, “which is you are, and what you should have remained”.

      Gallus tells Sejanus that his career has been a revelation to him: how a small mind allied with great ambition could destroy a country of clever men. He has seen how frail civilization can be before a gust of bad breath. A soldier slaps him twice. Gallus says Sejanus is not really the destroyer, but rather the putrefaction that spreads after death. Two soldiers hit him several times, bloodying and bruising him severely. Gallus says that Sejanus is proof that the most valuable defence against tyranny is mankind’s sense of smell. Sejanus holds up the pen, but Gallus faints. Sejanus orders his soldiers to bring him around, and they will start again. Gallus later dies; a full confession is posthumously produced as evidence of his treason.

      1. I remember that bit from the BBC mini-series I, Claudius. Patrick Stewart was Sejanus.

  21. Earlier this morning, I checked my CRA account for the tax installment notice that I was sent. I log in through my on-line bank account.

    I was able to get into my account and download the PDF file.

    No problems….. so far……

  22. I am wondering how quickly a legal challenge can be mounted, the concept of freezing bank accounts because some past donations now appear retroactively illegal (i.e., they support a cause now deemed to be illegal, but not so at the time of donation) seems to violate basic legal concepts. Every leftist in Canada should carefully consider what pre-crimes they might be committing if the political winds change, maybe in 2025 some conservative government will decide to freeze the bank accounts of everyone who gave to environmental causes, Greenpeace, almost anything vaguely progressive.

    Once this sort of thing gets loose, you can’t easily put it back in the bottle. 99% of the people who might have donated to the truckers convoy funds two or three weeks ago were probably thinking along these lines — the convoys have the same basic aim as myself, an end to all mandates and a return to normal living. Now that the convoys have done whatever they did and those things have been retroactively defined as illegal, what was a reasonable and rational decision is cast as the equivalent of terrorist support. This is ridiculous and bound to lead to severe regional tensions in Canada given the differences between east and west (or prairies and BC) in regard to support levels for the mandates and the protests.

    I hope parliament has the good sense to render this legislation null and void before it spirals into a crisis. If they confine the bank operations to a few accounts of key organizers, that would be one thing, if they extend it to thousands of ordinary citizens who have no other way to signal their discontent (the past record of the Opposition in parliament being what it was until the past few days) then there will be trouble, provincial premiers in the west will no doubt find it expedient to return to earlier anti-Ottawa positions and trouble will escalate. As it probably should given the arrogance and self-interest of the current government and its cynical partner(s) in a minority parliament.

  23. A word of caution to anyone who is withdrawing money from their bank in cash. Make sure you have a very safe hiding place, in case the police come to seize it directly when the bank tells them you cleaned out your account. Also, if you were a donor to givesendgo and you are doxxed you could become a target of ordinary criminals based on the reasonable supposition that you have withdrawn funds from the bank to protect them from government seizure.

    1. Since the “they hate us for our freedoms” attack on 9-11, the government has required the government-regulated banking system to monitor all of its customer activity closely, under the mandate “know your customer”.

      All transactions over $10,000 require the banks to complete a “suspicious activity” report to Fintrac.

      If a customer withdraws money repeatedly in amounts less than $10,000, the banks will report “potential structuring” activity, which is a criminal offence, if the withdrawals were made to intentionally avoid the $10,000 threshold.

      In the US recently, the IRS wanted all financial transactions over $500 (?) to be reported to the agency. The IRS also announced that facial recognition would be required of tax-filers to access certain online tax systems. The IRS subsequently relented on both requirements, which is its usual MO when wanting to gradually accustom people to onerous new mandates.

  24. Just emailed this to Chrystia the Witch

    “I want to make sure I am on your list. I have donated and will again in the future to the Freedom Convoy. Do not dare to touch my bank accounts or anybody else’s.
    Also, resign and take the rest of that incompetent cabinet and your Dear Leader with you.”

  25. Two points to add:

    1) The American “machine” is watching. Don’t be predictable.

    2) The bogus 2020 election was effective since those living off profit, mostly GOP, felt that their financial future was safe. They did nothing to resist the coup. Be very careful about who you might depend on. Some folks will only respond if there are “$$$”s in the equation. “Freedom” has no cash value to them.

    To the “truckers”, Thank You for showing what can be accomplished. Good Luck!

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