Let’s check in on the SaskHealth website this morning…
“All information including daily cases by age and vaccination status” link looks to be the right one: https://dashboard.saskatchewan.ca/health-wellness/covid-19/cases#cases-by-vaccine-status-tab.
Highlights:
As of January 24th, there are 909 new confirmed cases of COVID-19, bringing the total to 110,399 reported cases
Where’s the “vaccination status”? Huh.
Well, let’s not jump to conclusions. Perhaps they just ran short of space on the government website. It’s probably there in the data we can “download and use” for ourselves.
So I did.
If anyone else can find it, please let me know and I’ll update accordingly.
Update: Shortly after publication of this post, the summary was revised to include new case by vaccination status. 😉
Who knows? Next time I’m in Sask I’ll be able to walk into a liquor store & buy beer? Nah, fuggit. I’ll bring my own from the slightly less communist province of Alberta.
Ireland Rips Up Vaccine Passport After Half-a-Year of Restrictions on the Unvaxxed
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/01/22/ireland-rips-up-vaccine-passport-after-half-a-year-of-restrictions-on-the-unvaxxed/
I can always get some vaxxed kid to pull me some beer…..
I’m going to be giggling about that all damn day! 🙂
Who is running the show?
The people we elected, or the bureaucrats, unions, and media?
I think we need to start asking Moe and company that question.
Noticed that on their dashboard page they give vax status in the summary (limited clarification of definition), but it’s nowhere in the data file. So where do those numbers come from? Transparency?
That summary was just updated. They can act fast when they want to.
There is a fundamental rule that is rarely broken, except by the most clever of strategists which I am sure does not apply here.
The rule is: you don’t hide good news.
Thus, it is clear the SHA don’t have good news. They are criminals and need to go to jail.
Moe: you better start looking at life very carefully, the turning is happening and you will be a primary target. Are you sure you want to go down with the ship?
SHA staff: if you have anything to do with calculating or presenting these numbers, you better keep copies of the actual data and you better have copies of emails where you advised against hiding the data. You will surely be thrown under the bus, you better have a plan.
The last data I saw published showed that vaxxed vs unvaxxed new cases were running about the same as the population distribution. Meaning zero efficacy of preventing infection. There is still a good signal that the vaccine reduces risk of serious illness.
“There is still a good signal that the vaccine reduces risk of serious illness.”
Yeah. If you survive the vaccine. And if there are no long-term effects, but of course we already know of many. Doesn’t sound like a good deal to me.
Hard to say if the vaccine reduces risk of serious illness….especially when raw data is not made available. In fact, in other countries with far more transparent data, it appears there is no efficacy in that regard either.
The early, more deadly versions of the ‘Vid were already >99% survivable. It only follows that Omigawdicron, being weaker, must be even more so. As to the observation about reducing serious illness, I’ve seen little empirical evidence backing that up.
And, and, if there actually is a measurable reduction in serious illness, is that percentage worth getting injected with a completely new, little tested compound whose short term effects can prove to be devastating and whose long term effects are hitherto entirely unknown, worth it?
Not a chance.
There is still a good signal that the vaccine reduces risk of serious illness
Well, no. The mistake everyone is making is that all of these data are based on simple random samples – that the infections, vaccinations, hospitalizations and deaths are evenly, randomly distributed across the population. Which of course they aren’t. One obvious confounding factor is that not everyone can be safely vaccinated (yes, yes, I know – but even if the vaccines _were_ “safe and effective” there would be people with compromised immune systems who could not safely be vaccinated, for anything). This is why comorbidities are so important. If the people in the unvaccinated cohort tend to have more comorbidities that would prevent them from getting vaccinated in the first place, that’s going to spike the numbers. Pun intended.
And case counts are hopelessly corrupted data, as I’ve been pointing out for a while.
Be careful about that signal, though. We don’t know, because nobody will tell us, how many of the unvaccinated who are having serious troubles were ALREADY in such serious trouble that they dare not receive the vaccine in the first place. Those kind of confounders are everywhere in data like this.
The biggest one of all is age, of course. If you’re 80+, vaccine or no, you’re probably in for a rough ride. But such truths simply aren’t spoken very loudly in Canada. NS’s average age of Covid death is 78 and I doubt other provinces are much difference.
That’s pretty much what we see everywhere.
From the “Highlights:”
“Of the 909 new cases reported today, 143 were unvaccinated or fewer than 21 days after their first dose, 41 had received their first dose or were less than 21 days from their second dose, 486 were fully vaccinated (more than 14 days since their second dose) and 239 were fully vaccinated and more than 14 days from receiving their booster dose.”
So. 143 unvaxxed, INCLUDING 41 with one recent jab or within three weeks after their second dose. We know from those Alberta charts that were so conveniently deleted that the Covid cases spike right after the first dose, so it’s completely dishonest to include those people in the “unvaxxed” category. Completely.
Then we see that 486 fully vaxxed plus 239 boosted totaled 725 of the 909 new cases, or 80% of the new cases. In a province that has what? 75% vaxxed??
No pretty charts to show that. That would be much too obvious. They rely on the fact that most people don’t read the fine print.
Dan, you are including the 41 who were less than 21 days from their “2nd” dose in with the unvaccinated. That 41 number is for those recently fully dosed.
You can expect 2/3rds of the unvaccinated are actually partially vaccinated and within 21 days of the “1st” dose.
In any event, the vaccine is obsolete and is showing no positive effect. Most of the hospitalized are partially or fully vaccinated. The vaccine has suppressed immune systems and those vaccine injuries are showing up as other hospitalizations. I have a cousin who now has cancer. Her sister (a nurse) “feels” it is because of the suppression of the immune system which allowed the cancer to proceed.
“Her sister (a nurse) “feels” it is because of the suppression of the immune system which allowed the cancer to proceed.”
The kicker about that is that it’s almost impossible to prove & will go unnoticed by TPTB.
DB – and my previously healthy Brother in law has been diagnosed with 2 unrelated cancers. I am of course an idiot for suggesting it’s more than a little suspicious this should occur after a jab program that is a genetic modification.
C, curious how many of us uninformed idiots seem to know more and ask better questions than all these overpriced “experts” out there.
https://twitter.com/TheChiefNerd/status/1485695818996854788
https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data#totalDosesAdministered
Ontario saw a huge jump in jabs in the beginning of December. Cheat, end of November about 10K-15K daily to 120K -150K daily early in December. Daily deaths were running in single digits through December and today we are seeing 40-60 now for the last couple of weeks. If Omicron is milder, this shouldn’t be happening.
Thanks RedPop it is a concerning trend.
Questions to be asked are AGE, VAX STATUS, COMORBIDITIES etc.
More questions: Are the deaths from Omigawdicron or Delta, Alpha, etc.? Are the deaths actually from Covid or with Covid? Is the change in numbers due to a large data dump? What else are they accidentally leaving out?
I trust these bastards about as far as I can throw them. 40 years ago, yeah, I could’ve got a pretty good bounce out of any of ’em. Now, not so much.
I’m looking at the downloaded csv right now, and it still doesn’t show cases by vaccination status. There’s a small blurb in the highlights saying, “909 new cases…” “143 were unvaccinated or fewer than 21 days since first shot” i.e. 15.7% of cases… whereas according to the downloadable vaccination chart, 857,834 people are fully vaccinated including boosters. Sasks total population is 1,180,867. (72.6% = fully vaccinated). In other words, 27.4% are not fully vaccinated (0 shots, 1 shot, or less than 21 days from their 2nd shot).
So 27.4% of Sask is not fully vaccinated.
And new cases of not fully vaccinated (143 unvaccinated, and 41 less than fully vaccinated = 184 less than fully vaccinated out of 909 new cases = 20.2% of new cases.
So 20.2% of new cases are less than fully vaccinated (only 15.7% have zero or one shot).
And 27.4% of Sasks population is less than fully vaccinated.
So basically being fully vaccinated means you have more likelihood of catching covid. not fully vaccinated cases comprise 7.2% less than their total provincial make-up.
So they don’t highlight that, because that would be an inconvenient truth.
Instead they highlight that:
“262 patients were hospitalized, 99 (37.8%) were not fully vaccinated”…
Ok how many of those had more than zero shots though?
AND, how many of those were incidental cases???
They highlight that, of the 262 hospitalizations, only 113 were confirmed as being there non incidentally.
Why aren’t we being told how many people with 0 shots (not grouping in with those with 1 or 2 shots that aren’t fully vaccinated), are there BECAUSE of covid.
We can’t know, which means the answer is inconvenient to SHA and they haven’t had enough time to fudge the stats to make them appear convenient, so they just leave it a mystery.
Oh, never mind!
https://trialsitenews.com/university-of-calgary-repurposed-drug-breakthrough-hydroxychloroquine-delays-severe-forms-of-multiple-sclerosis/
How many people caught covid within two weeks of getting vaccinated and then subsequently died of covid?
How much does the vaccine initially increase the chance getting covid and what is the mortality rate of those who caught covid within two weeks of getting vaccinated?
I worked for a large company where our pay stubs were a full two pages long. They had everything on there except how many hours I charged or was paid per day. And the paychecks had lots of errors, but I had to do the math and take out the various premiums and such to determine if they had shorted me. It was designed to be confusing and difficult.
“How many people caught covid within two weeks of getting vaccinated and then subsequently died of covid?
How much does the vaccine initially increase the chance getting covid and what is the mortality rate of those who caught covid within two weeks of getting vaccinated?”
Exactly.
This information is hidden today.
The goofy looking leader of the Ontario Liberal Party wants four doses required to get a vaccination passport. He also is demanding that you have to have a vaccination passport(certificate) in order to enter liquor stores.
Sorry, its three doses he wants for a vaccination certificate.
Give it time. The fourth will come due in the spring.
Israel is now pushing fourth doses for all adults. It seems they are bent on committing mass suicide by Covid vax.
The reporting here, and everywhere, is incomplete and misleading.
Vaccination status should be split as follows:
a) Not vaccinated
b) Vaccinated once, within 21 days of 1st shot
c) Vaccinated once, after 21 days from 1st shot
d) Vaccinated twice, within 21 days of 2nd shot
d) Vaccinated twice, after 21 days from 2nd shot
e) Vaccinate three times (i.e. booster), within 21 days of 3rd shot
f) Vaccinate three times (i.e. booster), after 21 days from 3rd shot
And of course the data should be reported as “daily new [case, hospitalization, ICU admittance, deaths]”, per vacc status and age bracket.
How difficult can it be?
Math and statistics are hard:-)
Wouldn’t you need a computer and a program like excel to provide those numbers?
Correct, I have yet to see any statistics that separate not vaccinated at all from those who have had a jab(s) within a certain period of time. Talk about withholding crucial information! I really shouldn’t wonder why. I’ll be on an Ottawa overpass on Friday welcoming the convoy, time to take a stand. I really hope this ruffles some feathers and we see the end of this nonsense.
You really need g) Died WITH Covid; h) Died FROM Covid.
You folks are lucky. I still can’t get vaxx status off of the raw data dump available from the Alberta Health website. Can’t get co-morbidity info, either, nor time between vaxx and infection if any. And variant by case? Fuggedaboudit.
There’s a whole bunch of stuff they don’t want us to see. That might lead to independent analysis and thought. Can’t have that.
“Can’t get co-morbidity info, either”
Yep, another important piece of data hidden from the public.
In fact, the crucial connection between dates, case ID and all the other parameters of a single person’s infection is constantly broken. The “primary key” for all of this stuff should be an assigned case ID which never changes, but even that (in the “Case Data” dataset) seems to be randomly re-written every time they issue a new dataset. There’s simply no data integrity in the sets that are available, and without the true raw data, we’re never going to get a good picture of what’s happening.
It’s all designed to look transparent whilst actually being as opaque and confusing as possible. Either that, or the people wrangling the data are witlings.
Indeed – I don’t think the people managing the reporting process have done much data modelling.
Does anyone know if there is a province/state/country where “unvacced” does NOT include “vacced within N days after the first shot”?
Here’s a poll that should go horrible wrong : https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/community/polls
I suppose the 26% who voted no (as of 13:21 today) are all Turdeau worshippers who can’t wait to get their fifth booster shot up the arse. Idiots.
Hey, it’s Ottawa. Full of useless bureaucrats. All the truckers have to do is to refuse to make any deliveries into or out of Ottawa.
Apologies if this has already been discussed.
Is there any discussion about how to break out the rate of infections within the 2-3 week “cooling off” period post-vaxx where a person technically up-to-date on their shots can get sick/hospitalized/die but still be classed as unvaxxed? Is this done or even able to be done? Appreciate any links to discussion elsewhere to avoid recovering old ground.
I would not want to be the Excel spreadsheet whisperer at SaskHealth.
Seven months since my husband had his second jabba, he is still suffering from serious skin infections. His specialist called and changed his in person appointment to a phone consult because they are run off their feet with patients. Um so we’re on the third jabbas and Derm doctors are being run off their feet why exactly??? I’d love to see Trudy’s regime sued who/what gave politicians the legal right to take away our right to sue private drug companies for malpractice? Five dead this week with covid, two in their 70s, one in their 80s two over 90-all had three jabs. So did covid kill them or the jabba?
Kate, there is another consideration here. Vaxed don’t have to get tested if they are asymptomatic, even if they are a close contact. So, the actually number of infected fully vaxed is likely much higher than published.
I just saw the updated “COVID-19 Alberta statistics Interactive aggregate data” site and something is HUGELY outta whack compared to weeks of past data when looking at the “Vaccine Outcomes” page. Prior to today new cases and active cases were showing roughly 80 to 81% vaxxed and 19 to 20% unvaxxed. Hospitalizations were showing last Friday Jan 21st as 68.8% vaxxed and 31.2% unvaxxed. Now those number are totally different with 59% unvaxxed new cases, 55% unvaxxed active cases and 63% unvaxxed hospitalizations. This is totally contrary to any data or trend that had been given by the Alberta Gov’t since the start of Omicron. It’s just because the hard numbers goes against the narrative.
https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-19-alberta-statistics.htm#vaccine-outcomes
Kenney’s doubling down on stupid. What do the drug companies have on him? There aren’t enough unvaxxed in the province to provide anywhere near the numbers being quoted. Politicians are the scum of the Earth.
Bottom line. The vaxxed are dying at a rate greater than the unvaxxed.