When you’re longing for the “good old days” of the Chretien government you know its bad.
My new study on the costs of a $170 carbon tax confirm results from a large group of studies 20 yrs ago on the costs of Kyoto. People are surprised at the new numbers bc the feds haven't been upfront about the impacts.https://t.co/4SGsSNeWb8
— Ross McKitrick (@RossMcKitrick) March 17, 2021
20 years ago the federal (Liberal) govt had separate teams in Finance, NRCan, Industry Can, academia and the private sector model and cost out policy options. They changed their plans based on the findings. Today there’s nothing from the feds except promotional pamphlets.
It amazes me how the Paris movie is a replay of the Kyoto movie. Set grand targets with no plan to get there, pretend it won’t cost anything and hide behind buzzwords about the low-carbon economy and green jobs. The difference is Back then Chretien let the various federal departments work independently, provide multiple perspectives and publish their analyses. That led to bursting the rhetorical bubble and debating realistic cost estimates. Today all we get is the rhetorical bubble.
They’re not going to make that mistake again!
What are you worring about ? I am certain that the election will be fortified and we will be saved!
It seems more and more like ‘end of days’.
One problem is that all of our options for government are bad. Least worst still leaves you with bad.
Be nice to start over. Cut all levels of government to the bone, focus on essential services only.
We are so screwed.
Good luck on getting agreement on what “essential services” are.
If we continue on the path we are on now the invisible hand of the market will take care of it.
That way has the benefit of having the blame lay where it should.
The blame may land where it should but there will be no consequences for them to face and we will still be on the hook for the debt with an economy based upon lies and corruption.
A good old EMP pulse should fix the problem.
Taking our banking back from government hands.
Sad but true. Sure, Chretien was a crony crookster but he was way better than the current woke crowd.
A natural born Liberal,told me that Chretien was the consummate Liberal.
Says whatever you think you heard and does whatever he wants.
But Jean,at least in his medium years actually seemed to love Canada and once even proposed a cure to the vile cancer of Systemic Apartheid,which destroys citizens of native ancestry and robs the taxpayer of vast sums.
Imagine a country in which all citizens are equal,before the law and charter…
We in the West have long been shown the door,for even Jean’s vision of Canada did not include us.
We are left to conclude,the East wants us gone.
Why are we so slow to comprehend?
Is there some secret benefit of belonging to confederation?
One that I am just too thick to see?
John, I had a customer in Edmunchuck in the early 1980T’s, and had to list , for 2 weeks, on how unfair things were to them (the west), and here we are, 40 years down the road, and you are still just whining like teen age girls who were stood up for the prom. Quit cher bitchin, and git on with it already!!!!!!
NME,you don’t remember that brief flash of hope when Reform was in?
The promise of “gradualism” restoring the institutions of Confederation?
How Mr harper and his new Eastern comrades were going to set Canada right,just as soon as they held a majority..
Reform was a real education to me,up till then I had imagined I shared some values with Eastern Canadians.
More fool me.
So whining ain’t what I would call it.
Smarting might be more accurate,smartening up ,seems to be spreading across the west.
For these conversations used to get shut down 5 years ago, now we are searching for any reason to remain in the Con-federation.
I still insist Reform was worth it.
Even though it cost the West 3o years and another oil boom,we are now certain.
Kleptocratic Canada cannot be reformed.
As a very old and very long familied Easterner who never voted Liberal I can only say misery loves company. Bribing people with other people’s money proves you can fool most of the electorate most of the time.
Confederation is not sacred, its promises (especially to the West) remain unfulfilled, and it’s time for either a major re-do or an undoing. It’s tiresome living under Eastern colonialism & parasitism. One more term of Trudeau will put the finishing touch on this experiment. AB & Sask (and I wish, BC, but that ain’t gonna happen, much as I’d like it to) will have no choice but to leave if they want their economies and societies to survive and thrive.
The destruction of the economy is a feature, not a cost…
Left wing pinheads always seem to find a way to get into power.
The “right wing” isn’t too far behind!
Show me an example.
What’s another 200,000 jobs gone when the Spawn and Butts can be greeted like heroes by his eminence, Mark Carney in the progressive cocktail circuit.
Chrétien had an actual opposition that posed a threat to his power so he stole some of their thunder and reined in spending.
The Liberals reigned in spending because of math. Bond markets weren’t biting.
(I guess they didn’t think about making the Bank of Canada just buy like a trillion dollars of printed money back then?)
Hey Jeff, what a great idea! We can just buy more money. I can write a check today, just have the Trillion in cash ready for me to pick up. No, really, the check will clear, I promise 🙂
When have have carbon taxes on top of more inflation…
Let’s just say it will be bad.
Nothing to worry about. Trudope and his Fiberal minions have launched the precursor to UBI, so he will provide the money to every Canadian to pay for carbon taxes!
What could possibly go wrong?
Gonna make sure they suck more money out of us than what they give.
This is the game in a nutshell.
His only redeeming quality was a sense of humour, and it was cool when he throttled that protester.
Don’t get soft. Chretien is a slack jawed, thin skinned bully who wouldn’t look at all out of place on an episode of “The Sopranos”.
Setting up shop in China soon after his retirement from politics along with fellow kleptocrat Maurice Strong should tell you all you need to know why the LPC and China seem to be joined at the hip.
A globalist through and through…Canada was just a nice place to hang his hat while he grifted us.
Thank your stars that some in the media back then didn’t act as Liberal Party Praetorian Guards and actually made him account for a few things.
Agreed. JC was a most sinister villain. He’s still pulling the strings behind the scenes with the present-day twerps inasmuch as their China policy goes, but he was too savvy about money and greedy to knowingly run the country into financial ruin like PM High School Confidential and his Multiculti Cult Crew are doing.
Oh well, 98 percent of the electorate voted for parties that support the objectives of the Paris Climate Accord.
Were you given a choice?
I certainly didn’t.
Imposed laws destroyed my jobs and future jobs.
Penalizing my work to oblivion and importing products we used to make.
My work got sucked up in government regulations and no longer is legal.
Pass moderation?
I am a nutbar…
Just testing the moderation that is heavy this morning.
Can’t say my jobs were sucked up by government regulations?
Your comments are being moderated?
I was for a couple hours this morning, buts its fine now.
Chretien won praise for signing Canada onto Kyoto and then … did nothing. The very essence of virtue signaling.
Won’t you be my Yoko Trudeau?
Is Preston still out on his listening tour in Alberta? As I recall he likes pricing carbon.