Neil O’Brien is a Conservative MP in England. Here’s something he recently said in the British House of Parliament:
Plain spoken, truthful words. Nobody in their right mind would disagree with this. Yet can you imagine any Conservative in Canada ever having the courage to stand up and speak such truth against the power of the politically correct Woke mob?
We have a Conservative Party in Canada?
That is just an illusion as they are such a bunch of lying bastards who really don’t give two shits about us.
Just care about themselves…
Hasn’t been one in my entire life and I was a card carrying, nominating, financial supporting, a hole of what was once considered the conservative party. I realized a long time ago that Canadians were all socialists with very few exceptions. As far as courage goes, hell, that hasn’t been a Canadian value since Korea.
By the end of WW1, a full 1/6th of our population had served. Suicide rates among those who were 4F for WW2 are shocking. 15 years ago a poll was released showing 76% of 19 to 25 year olds would never go to war under any circumstances even if it was against Hitler, and would actively protest against it. That is the legacy of Liberal majority rule for the last 80 years.
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Bingo Chris…how sad.
unionized public servants…….nuff said.
76% of people won’t fight a war that was planned and organized by the ruling class? Why, people must truly be crazy nowadays.
FYI, Western companies actively supported the Axis forces to profiteer in the war, just as they have done since the dawn of time and as they do now. Military service is dumb and preys on the destitute.
Makes you stupider than you sound if you supported conservatives all this time.Whining piece of shi
In a word, no. Nor do we have any actual liberals, apparently. In fact, I used to tell people, back in the old days, that if they actually wanted a liberal they should vote for Stephen Harper. Most of them didn’t get it.
Yup. It’s called the People’s party of Canada.
Know what? Max does speak like that British MP; Check his PPC YouTube channel
And how many seats do they hold? I thought we were talking about the parties in the House. There are millions of Canadians who would love a Conservative party but these guys aren’t there yet. They have as much power as I do. Will further splitting the votes of right thinking Canadians get us anywhere or do we need a Trump to take over the Conservative Party and give it a good shake up? Unfortunately they all appear to be either cowards or sell outs.
It is a valid party no matter how stupid the average Canadian is.
I had a call from him yesterday.. I couldn’t understand him ..NO MORE PM’S FROM QUEBEC.. WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU DOUGH HEADS!!!
Ok then. Since 85% Canadians are stupid, be my guest & vote for O’Tool
In 5 years’ time same people like you, colon, Thomas etc will be here bitching and whining about same shit.
Because look at Doug Ford or Kenney right now & you see CPC in wait.
Grow a pair.
No need to show your butt when someone asks a legitimate question, Ahmed. You can therefore GFY.
Remove Max with a non-K-becer FFS.
Many of the problems of confederation lay in the hands of K-becers.
Read a history book.
I agree with you, Ahmed. Voting for a Liberal-light politician is pretty much the same thing as voting for the Liberals. 🙁
O’Stool
Of course we do, B A, they’re called the Conservative Party of Canada. The problem is we don’t have a party that’s conservative, and the only party we have that’s any good at being a political party (i.e. winning elections and then using the government to make the country what they want it to be) is the Liberal Party. And they’ve been doing that for so long not much remains that should be conserved.
Based on the performance of Error “I’m a fireball” O’Foole, one wouldn’t know that.
Not really …. stupid people elect stupid leaders and then country get stupid and falls apart.
Trump is the opposite of a stupid leader, he is brilliant and has the common folk in mind. He understands the the middle class is required to maintain a civil society and a prosperous one.
The elites want to rid the world of everything but a servant class and elites with the gestapo in the middle keeping the rabble in place. IN A MUCH LOWER POPULATED WORLD … BILLIONS FEWER!
Consider that.
That is where we are headed after Trump. Canada already is gone beyond repair, the Canadian voters are far too stupid to understand what’s going to happen to them.
We just have various shades of blackface.
The Conservative Party of Canada (CPC) exists for the sole purpose of being the whipping boy of the Liberal Party of Canada (LPC).
That is one of the reasons why Canada has the LPC as the natural governing party of the country. With few exceptions the members of the CPC are ‘transnational progressives’ who embrace post national global citizenship and promote the authority of international institutions over the sovereignty of individual nation states.
Why would any citizen in their right mind vote for either one of these loser parties. We need a party that actually puts the interests of its citizens ahead of those of the political class.
“The Conservative Party of Canada (CPC) exists for the sole purpose of being the whipping boy of the Liberal Party of Canada (LPC).”
Nope. Not the sole purpose. It also provides an alternative for that significant portion of the electorate that says it doesn’t like turdo/Liberals but is squeamish about true conservatism.
I would say that is pretty close Jamie.
I will not challenge your assertion about the squeamish Canadian voter. But, I could not help but notice that the main thrust of what I wrote went unchallenged, that the CPC is a party of ‘transnational progressives’ who embrace post national global citizenship and promote the authority of international institutions over the sovereignty of individual nation states.
Why don’t you tell me I am wrong about that, as our freedoms disappear one by one every day?
You ain’t wrong about that, Jim.
Show us where that is the case!
I don’t see it, but I am not calling BS.
Trump pulled USA out of Paris Accord per the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change
vs. Harper, Scheer & O’tool and Gerald Butts.
There is no need to challenge something we believe that all parties in Canada represent, excepting the PPC.
As Mark Steyn has repeatedly stated, the Conservatives, when they take power, are satisfied to steer the Liberal car for a few years while the Liberals take a breather. They are not allowed to nor do they ever attempt to actually turn the wheel.
Conservatives have no principles or ideals, small c or big C. ‘Conservatism’ is a worthless miscellaneous bin for people who lack the brains and disciple to have real ideas.
No spines to begin with. What we have are cuckservatives.
The conservatives of Canada are dominated by the media, education system and the public sector. The political response to that dominance is supposed to be the CPC. In the 50 years that I have been politically active the only time I saw a concerted effort by the right to counter progressive thought was during early Reform. During those years we organized at the grassroots level and actually participated in setting policy.
Why did we fail? IMHO we failed when Harper started to distance himself from the grassroots as the media pumped up every perceived indiscretion a conservative made. He apologized for the indiscretions instead of using them as an education tool. Input from the riding associations was no longer valued. It has not changed. Derek Sloan signed off on a petition to facilitate debate on vaccine use. Erin O’Toole basically threw him under the bus rather than using the opportunity to demonstrate political freedom .
Conservatives are supposed to be the political party of free enterprise. Sadly in my 50 years the vast majority of conservative politicians I have met do not understand the fundamentals of business. The proof is in how they run their own party which use few of the skills that I know from business. These people are not unique to the problem as it exists in all political parties. All political parties are full of carpetbaggers. One would hope that conservatives would recognize the problem people and cleanse the org much more efficiently.
So progressives control education, media and the public sector and have done so for pretty much 50 years. What passes as a CPC think tank has not changed that one iota. It is worse now than ever. Progressives know where the power lies and are extremely successful in controlling the narrative. Subjective social thinking works well for them and the majority of Canadians. Obviously this condition will not be challenged by the CPC and will not be challenged even if they form government. There is no debate between free enterprise and socialism. Socialism has won.
“All political parties are full of carpetbaggers.”
From experience, that is for the most part the rank and file of the so called ‘Conservative’ party of Canada.
At meetings you would hear only how this character or the other one wanted to get on the gravy train of the government largesse. Never mind how to run a decent government. Could not believe it.
Proposing to tell the plebeians how much it is going to cost for every handout to the takers, was shut down for nonsense by the head apparatchik of the meeting. No debate, nothing. Not saying the proposal was faultless.
Don’t thing that ever went to another meeting since had no pet project for own enrichment.
Yeah, it’s the rank and file that is the problem, the apparatchiks are there are to shepherd the takers in the ways of corruption.
The current ‘leader’ of the so called Conservative party is a liberal, he could not say anything that would upset the media cartel. Period.
The two I have hopes for are Pierre Poilievre and Derek Sloan – and I’m willing to bet that Jim Karahalios and his wife don’t toe the Party Line either, after what Erin O’TOOL did to him during the leadership race.
The rest? – not a backbone among them; and not much hope for the card-carrying Party members after that leadership race. The CON-servatives are labouring under a persistent fantasy – that to take power in Canada they have to out-LIE-beral the LIE-berals, because the only way to win is by buying more votes. And who needs two national political parties, when we already have the LIE-berals doing that?
– Think I’ll vote PPC next time around – I mean why not, my vote’s just going to be wasted anyway… Oh and Doug Fraud and Jason Not-Enney? – enjoy the unemployment you’ve so openly earned; your voters are going to toss you out on your overly-padded @$$es for doing nothing, and it’ll look good on you.
Spineless is a good word.
But we need to admit that the jellyfish have an enormous tide to fight against.
The MSM, universities, high schools, social media, human rights tribunals, BLM, the Indian Grievance Industry and increasingly the legal system itself as legislation restricts speech more and more.
We see that corporate Canada is pushing the narrative every time they advertise.
The current is so strong that many people’s jobs aren’t safe they just don’t know it yet.
Cancel Culture is only in its infancy. It has only just started walking and talking. Wait till it joins up with the Deep State. Imagine how bad it will be when Canadians elect one of Juthtin’s kids as PM?
If any of them did say anything like that the media would call them racist whereupon they would curl up in the fetal position and begin apologizing.
One reason why they don’t defend conservative principles is because they don’t understand or believe them; they are just actors.
Another reason is that they are gutless.
When I debate liberals at work I slice them up.
They rarely score a point let alone win the argument.
Our conservative party politicians are actors playing a part. They are simply parroting lines like the villain in a Movie Of The Week drama.
I haven’t given money or supported the CPC since HArper left and I was totally disgusted with him and his do-nothing cabinet in the final years. Now the country I knew is gone and over and I don’t care at all anymore.
Ditto. The country had a chance to support someone with a spine last election in Bernier, who i donated to and voted for.
Canadians showed their true colors last election and voted overwhelmingly for spineless SJWs and global communism.
There is one last chance, and that is very slim. For Alberta to separate immediately. Frankly, I doubt there are enough people left even in Alberta who value personal responsibility and liberty to make a difference. I can see the NDP getting elected here again next time.
Nailed it, nailed it, and nailed it, Johnboy.
I never thought that English was a foreign language. Require close captioning here to understand mumbling.
What if Canada held an election and none of the voters showed up to vote? What if MPs swore an oath to their constituents rather than the crown?
I tried PPC last election- I think I was the only vote they got in my riding. I may vote Maverick next time. But I will not vote LibCon or NDP! We need to stop being played as fools?
How refreshing to hear this in the British Parliament.
Lorenzo – nice comments. What if the voters simply stopped voting? I’m at that stage now – since ‘they’ are all the same; out for a nice cushy unaccountable job with special benefits and pension. Can you imagine – only six years of ‘work’ – and a great pension for life.
However, I continue to think that a major problem with the governing infrastructure in Canada is: two things.
The first is the legal requirement for bilingualism, which instantly shuts out over 85% of the Canadian population for any senior – elected and unelected – role in government – and puts the control of all key government agencies directly in the hands of the ‘Laurentian Elite’ [Quebec and Ottawa-Hull]. Can you imagine a country, anywhere in the world, that requires a citizen of that nation to learn a different language from everyday use – in order to participate in their own governance? That was the case hundreds of years ago – when the requirement was for Latin..but now?
The second is our electoral map, which puts the most MPs in the largest cities. Since Canada’s population is, unlike that of most other nations, not spread out over its whole territory but focused instead in a few large cities – and – and – since the population in these few large cities is heavily made up of government-funded people [academics, public services, minority groups, poverty and the homeless industry etc] – then, these people naturally vote for the continuation of their subsidies!. Toronto itself has more MPs than Manitoba and Saskatchewan combined.
Therefore ‘the people’ don’t stand a chance in either moving into roles in their own governance, or voting for anyone who actually works-for-them instead of For The Party/Tribe.
A third problem is that the Canadian economy has been kept as a secondary economy, directly connected to the US economy. Canada doesn’t develop its resources; and it doesn’t even develop its own small businesses – so many of them are just franchises of US companies. This seems to have been a deliberate tactic of the Laurentians – to maintain their control over the population [can’t have the peasants run and develop their own farms, can we?]..
And will Canadians rise up and object? Heh – not after a lifetime of being brainwashed by our schools and media and politicians that ‘we are all in this together’; and we are ‘not-Americans’ – who are focused around ‘the individual’ rather than ‘the group’; who are greedy and selfish – unlike, kind, caring Canadians. With that kind of narrative breakfast cereal – Canadians have never developed the spine or the thoughts – to act on their own.
well thought out.. People here diss the only option we have here and it is correct but sad..We have a pretty bleak future.. At least in the US, it may break out into a shooting war. Horrible but at least there is some hope of a winner.
Had an idiot Biden kneeler tell me that was how democracy was supposed to work. No point arguing with stupid.
He would not have seen the folly. Especially if you provided the example of 51 wolves and 49 sheep deciding on whether mutton or alfalfa pellets should be the daily meal.
I donated to the PPC last election.
I’ll give money to a separatist party as well.
Other than that I think the best use our our donations is to support independent media.
Politics follows culture and we are miles behind in the culture war.
The left has about a $1.5 billion head start with the CBC and handouts to the rest of the idiot media in Canada.
Like button! Donations to independent media rather than political parties should be hugely promoted.
I’ll keep throwing my future votes away to the Libertarian Party.
That UK Tory was no more conservative than some in our useless Conservative party. Leslyn Lewis could have given that speech. In the end does it mater if you have one or twenty when the result is Bojo who is as “conservative” as Gavin Newsom in lockdowns, free speech, and green theocracy.
What is this BS?
Courage requires conviction and belief in your own values.
See any such value in the lives of those willing to be involved in the cesspit we call politics?
Where perception,as shaped by Presstitutes,is more important than policy?
We should be rewarding the media,as they sold us their product,Justine.
And we know all their claims about the value of their product are baseless and the financial damage caused by public use of this product is in the trillions of dollars of lost wealth,opportunity and future hope.
These are the same assholes who do “Investigative Journalism” when they feel a business is not living up to its public promises,yet they sell us political fantasy such as the “Good Government” and “Free Healthcare”.
I had a run in with a security guard at the post office,”I should be wearing a mask” he said.
So I told him I was,but that he was obviously blind to the magnificent texture,weave and colours.
Told him,what you cannot see it?
It is as real as our Prime Ministers Integrity.
Man had a sense of humour.
Mine is vanishing.
In the first place the choice of O Toole over Lewis should tell you everything you need to know. If this didn’t ,barring independent news organizations from events should be your next obvious clue. Max is going nowhere and it is nearly impossible for any party right of the greens to gain traction as the MSM is very good at portraying them as racist fascist bastards. Organized takeover of the existing party would be difficult but a viable option. They have totally with few exceptions abdicated their responsibilities. It is much more likely we will have to wait for our famine and will have to shoot our way out. (If you can hang onto your gun) . They have created a lot of new criminals. In the meantime,sit at your kitchen table and wonder what day they might break in your door… Or arrest you for being outside. Happy F’n New Year.
That could be self-curing, Concerned – what I’m hoping for is the voters developing a memory.
“VOTE for ME!!! – Next time, we Canadians will have it even BETTER!!!”
” – Oh yeah – you were the @$$hole who vacationed in Cancun while telling us we couldn’t have Christmas two years ago, right? – and lied about it? And sent the cops after anybody who did have a Christmas, right?”
“THAT’S a LIE, and YOU’RE RACIST!!!”
” – And your Party boss is the Premier who let you do it, said you’d pre-planned the trip and you went even though we were told to stay home? Sorry – voting for somebody else this time…” (-_-)
Y.Knott – to be clear I in no way support the present CPC party. I voted max last time. I supported them with votes and money in the past. My contention is that possibility if enough people bought memberships to take over the general meetings and put some candidates in who will stand up and fight regardless of how the opposition tries to label them .A coup to take back the party from the people who have failed to defend many of us. Will they win ? Not likely. But they aren’t going to win anyway.. But at least we could have someone who fight and obstruct. There is no way things improve even if Liberal lite wins. And we have not even began to see the repercussions from the scamdemic decisions and the proposed reset.
Politics is the art of compromise, so there are few politicians that can claim to remain true to their philosophical belief.
The knifes edge is those that can keep from selling out the voters that expect a minimum of principled behaviour from them. This is particularly complicated for those claiming to be conservatives. It’s relatively easy as a liberal to remain true to a principal of playing Santa every election and the voting block that votes for it.
One must remember that Canadian politicians aren’t allowed to have a spine. One only needs to look at Beyak, Philpott, Raybould-Wilson to see that. Speaking your mind, not toeing the party line or being seen as politically incorrect is political suicide. Somehow we need to stand behind politicians that are willing to speak their mind, even if we don’t agree. PCness has taken over all political discourse.
I’ve touched on this already – 121 Conservatives currently sit in Parliament and not one has spoken out about “mandatory masks”…lockdowns…police overreach etc. rights are being stomped on.
It’s a damn disgrace.
Case in point – Michelle Rempel Conservative MP for
OklahomaCalgary Nose Hill a one time feisty bare knuckle brawler who at one time I greatly admired. That’s at an end.We have lives being destroyed, livelihoods ruined and bankrupted via these ridiculous lockdowns so what’s got Michelle’s panties in a wad? She wants help for the airline industry and it’s workers namely Westjet and Air Canada.
WTH!!!!!! In what alternate universe is she living in????!!!???
burton, you nailed it.
The only Conservative I have heard say anything about the lockdowns is Dr. Lewis. She, should be leader of the party with Sloan as deputy leader.
The CPC should be simply showing up at Parliament, all of them, and sitting in their respective seats as they would be in pre-Chinavirus days. They should be questioning the lockdowns and the diktats of all the Liberals and others. They should use their accesss to Parliamentary finances to find out who has been flying to sunny climes during Christmas. They should be exposing Davos and World Bank and WHO and pointing out that Trudeau is getting his marching orders for foreigners by implementing their “solutions”. Yes folks, those kind of actions by Trudeau is called treason.
Eventually, this chinavirus will be exposed as a giant con piggybacking on a bad flu. And a “gain of function” flu at that. Once exposed, the Liberals and Dippers and Greens will be buried for years and they will be the subject of pitchforks and torches from all the families that have suffered.
BTW. Right now, I am watching Natasha Fatah on CBC yammering on about Covid this and Covid that. It is helpful to remind myself that this lady did not even know that a sailboat is supposed to list in a wind. (for real, she thought Greta Thunbergs sailboat was in trouble when sailing into New York harbour because is was leaning. Andrew “wooden” Nichols was doing his best to keep from busting out with laughter and had to tell her sailboats do that) This is what passes for talent in our government-run broadcaster.
I made a lot of noise with my MP over what the Federal Liberals were planning. They tell you to complain to your provincial MLA, MPP or MNA. It’s a provincial matter, so they say.
Neil O’Brien —- Well said!
We should have one culture here – the one our settlers brought from all corners of the world! It’s called The real Canadians culture! That welcomed people and respected all but did not allow BS
There are no conservatives in Canada, and Canadians don’t want them. The coward Canadian sheep wants mommy government making all their choices so they can bitch, having to take responsibility for yourself and make your own choices is too….hard.
Back to what the MP was saying. There was a time that, no matter your ethnic origin or race, everyone in Britain had a similar accent and speaking mannerism. The only difference was based on which region or neighbourhood that you lived. But it was all distinctly British.
Can anyone articulate a reason, any reason for the country of Canada to exist? What binds us together? We are not a homogeneous society bound by language culture or religion.
We have nothing in common with each other. No purpose.
How long can a country survive like that?
A country can survive just fine like that as long as it respects individual rights. America has usually not been homogeneous and is nothing but better off for it. There’s no ‘we’ and there shouldn’t be.
I agree with your comment re individual rights.
Canada is a very left wing country constantly searching for ‘the greater common good’.
Individual rights are rarely considered.
Didn’t Canada invent group rights – such an insult to anyone with even half a brain – just so the government could trample individual rights?
If you still think the Torys or any provincial “conservative” party gives a damn about you or conservative policies you are dumb as a post. They are socialists with governors.
Liberal, Tory same old story.