168 Replies to “Scheer Cowardice”

  1. Out here in the country, all the kids are singing…

    Andy Scheer
    A Liberal steer
    Is all dressed up in blue
    But don’t be fooled
    The yellow tool
    Is just like turdo two

  2. “Leftists might recognize themselves..”

    It’s never happened – it’s never gonna happen.

  3. Andy Pandy could have been a leader. He might have even been the PM. He isn’t and he wont. Sad to say but I will simply stay home on election day. I would like to vote FOR a candidate or party but there is no one. I could vote Insane Party (NDP), Wannabea Liberal Party (Green) Corrupt Party (Liberal) or the Liberal Lite party (CPC). Who needs it.

    2. No
      .
      You get out of bed on Election Day and you vote conservative, everyone of you.
      Then the next day you get on the phone and you tell the Member of Parliament for your riding that you’re disgusted with Andrew Scheer’s spineless,yellow bellied so-called conservatism.
      And over the course of the next 4 years you get on the phone, or send an email or send a letter were by you constantly harangue the conservatives to be conservatives and not liberal Lite.
      You vote PPC only in ridings where the possibility of a PPC win is strong, probably mostly in Quebec. When the election’s over you can form a government by joining the conservatives and the PPC.
      That way the PPC can smack some sense into the conservatives to be conservative and not act like little Justin Trudeau Lite

        2. Attaboy give Max von ego the boost he needs and maybe he can get Canada destroyed like There are about 5% of Canadians right now who would vote for ”a true conservative party” led by Max. 25% are moderate conservatives. Another 10% can be persuaded to swing either way—between conservatives and liberals. You do the math and following that mindset, if Bernier decides to split the vote, we would end up with lib-progs in power for a very long time which would mean the complete destruction of the country. Barring a miracle. there are too many lib-progs in Canada for a ”Bernier- principled conservative movement” to ever win an election. Scheer is far from perfect but is still much better than JT. Preston Manning by splitting the vote was responsible for 3 consecutive liberal majorities, which was a real nightmare. This time around will be much worse. Just think about it for one second…could you live with JT, Goodale, Morneau, Freeland, Sajjan and the other cronies for another 4 years or more.

      2. No way I will compromise my values and vote for Andrew Scheeit. At first I was just going to quietly vote Max. Now I am so pissed that I will do everything I can to frustrate and obstruct the federal Conservatives. With the liberals I know what I’m getting and it’s not good. With Scheeit I don’t know what I’m getting because he lies, caves, spins and reverses. He stabs his Mps in the back and he betrayed my trust. I want revenge and I want him gone.

      4. Absolutely NOT. Vote turdo.

        You can’t fix stupid, all you can do is run its head into a wall.

        Step on the gas, let’s hit that wall. Canada is done, break it up, Western Independence is the only solution, IF, and it’s a big IF, we can find the right people to lead it and not just turn their backs on us like the rest of the political clowns out there.

      5. It’s too late to work within the system and too early to just shoot the bastards. The only route out of this at this point is a Venezuela-style collapse, followed by a rebuilding of society by regional strongmen. The problem isn’t Scheer, it’s an electorate addicted to the idea that government can give them free stuff and make people they don’t like do what they want. Canadians do not want essential or economic liberty; they have rejected it every time it’s been offered. It’s going to take the Gods of the Copybook Headings returning with fire and slaughter to make them learn.

      6. Guarantee I will be voting for the conservative come election day. The only conservative running this year…Max.

        If Scheer gets in I will be sure to remind every cpc supporter of their vote every time scheer the steer capitulates to liberal values.

  5. The stench Conservatives will be telling us this is not the hill to die on.

    If the enemy is determined to kill you, what better time than now to fight.

  6. People like Scheer, Joe Clark, etc., have relied for decades on party loyalists. Loyalists always get out to vote, and they always vote for the party; regardless of results.

    In Canada, in the US, there are millions of people, for whom marking the ballot for their party is the only thing. Deficits, policy, foreign wars, failures, … nothing else matters. A most graphic case in point? Scat Fransisco. An entire city is willing to live in human excrement, live through actual medieval plagues, rather than vote for something else.

    Do I think Andrew Scheer is guaranteed at least 3 million voters in this country? Yes.

  7. So sad Conservatives still don’t get it. Scheer did the right thing. If your goal is whining about unfairness to conservatives in Canada then fine. If your goal is to stop Trudeau and get some form of conservatism in GVT in a 70% progressive Canada then Scheer was right.

    With all the evidence and facts I can’t understand why allegedly bright conservatives can’t see that very simple point. Max and PPC tough talk gets 1-3% – can’t form Policy with NO seats that does ZERO for conservatives-

    Conservatives have to be perfect to form Government no mistakes. That’s a fact when Canada has 70% progressive voters. Liberals NDP Greens bloc. Why can’t conservatives be logical. Factual not emotional ?

    1. And here we have an example of the party loyalist. Policy don’t matter, principle don’t matter, results don’t matter; Scheer could come out and promise that if elected, he would resign so Trudeau could run in his riding, and Manny would vote for that.

      Party loyalists are what kept Theresa May in the PM’s chair for what 3, 4 years of continuous failure? MPs who gave not a single care to what the citizens wanted; only about keeping the seat and the party nomination.

      She skirted around one point, a point I have brought up before: how is exactly has voting for “experienced” politicians been working out for you personally?

      1. “And here we have an example of the party loyalist. Policy don’t matter, principle don’t matter, results don’t matter; Scheer could come out and promise that if elected, he would resign so Trudeau could run in his riding, and Manny would vote for that.”

        Bingo, Kevin. Some folks would vote for turdo if he was wearing a blue tie.

      2. This is part of why Canada does not work for the people and is not a Democracy. MP’s trying to get elected promise Paradise to the locals to get their vote. Once they get to Ottawa they don’t even know you anymore. You become another Piece of Dog Shit on the sidewalk and they only serve the Party and not the voter.

    2. Sorry to disagree with you Manny. This has nothing to do with mad Bernie. This has to do with the fact that the media is running the CPC. Cooper is not a crank. He simply called the bigot on his lies. The NZ nutbar is a a leftist so where does the muslim bigot get off on accusing conservatives of hate? The only hate in evidence at the hearing was from the muslim bigot. It is long past time the conservatives stopped trying to please liberals by being liberal lite.

      1. Joe. I have been in front lines for 30 years. PMHarper had EXACT same playbook as scheer. Remove wedge issues. Act quickly on small mistakes— then you will be awarded Government in a 70% PROGRESSIVE Canada. Why can’t you understand that. I raise Max to prove my point. His tough talk only attracts 1-3%.It doesn’t work except to placate 1-3%.
        I want a Conservative GVT. PMHarper delivered best Conservative GVT AFTER removing wedge issues and not allowing mistakes.
        Why can’t you understand that.

        1. Um, yeah, what “conservative” government are you referring to? The one that got oil pipelines built? The one that ended the CBC? The one that fired 90% of the civil service and permanently reduced the size of government in Canada? The one that ended supply management in dairy?

          Or are you talking about Trudeau and that conservative party?

          So you been on the front lines for 30 years you say … Looks to me like we need a new front line. Looks like your advice has been instrumental in getting us to where we are today.

          1. Insanity. So PMHarper was not a great Conservative Leader. Delusional.

            You know how elections work in Canada. You need Majority of 338 seats to set policy.

            Do you think ppc .8 of a seat will achieve anything.

            You are as much of enemy of a Conservative GVT as is Trudeau Liberals.

        2. The problem, manny, is that you aren’t a conservative. You may call yourself one until you’re blue in the face, that will be the only thing about you that is blue. Your only principle, is winning at any cost, to you winning means everything, to hell with principles. Time for you and your ilk to go. Just go.

        3. What playbook was that Manny? Did PM Harper turtle every time a liberal said something nasty about him or his caucus? I don’t remember. However I do know that Andy Pandy’s approach is not working. His turtlng has simply invited more disparagement of the Conservative voice. It didn’t make him sound wise or show any leadership at all. It showed him as a wuss that advances a Conservative view until some liberal makes fun of it and he runs and hides. His motto should be “I have conservative values – unless you want me to be a liberal then I have liberal values”. As I said before “Who needs it?” I hear the liberals will be looking for a new leader soon. Andy Pandy should apply. Oh right he would never make it. He doesn’t stand up for his caucus.

        4. Manny Ottawa when will you finally realize that pandering to win an election to win but compromising your values gets true conservatives nothing at the end of the game… especially for the western provinces… For all the good Harper may have done he compromised on way too many issues to try and get more voters.

          Mad Max is far from perfect but at least he doesn’t pander to every minority and wants Canadians to all be viewed as strictly canadians.

          Sheer or Even Harper if he took leadership again would not solve any problems with Western Canada. If I could only choose between trudeau and sheer I would pick trudeau every time because I’d rather accelerate the decline and push the separatist movement then deal with compromise and populist policies that just slow down the destruction of Canada.

          Also on this site you’ve seen not a single person had agreed with your post so maybe stop dismissing us or blocking us on Twitter and wake up and realize that the 1-3% polls are likely wrong like they were in Alberta, usa, england and Australia during recent elections.

    4. Canada is not so much 70% progressive country. It is the media who is 95% progressive (regressive). And most Canadians aren’t even aware of different political ideas, theories. I doubt even 30% of Canadians understand how the minimum wage hurts the poor, a well established economic principle. To say this will get you “The Look” from your fellow citizens.

      “Conservatives” who pander to the progressive media achieve little, and what little they do achieve is swamped by the progressive laws passed when they are not in power. If Canadians hear alternative media, then it will become a less regressive nation. Its why leaders must never bend the knee to the regressive media. People must hear alternatives to the pablum we’ve been hearing since grade school.

      Trump, who isn’t really a conservative, has implemented conservative policies that no Republican could even dream of 10 years ago. It’s because he doesn’t apologize to the media, and doesn’t treat the media as some governing authority on all opinion. And Maxime is pretty good as well. A Canadian Trump. With Scheer, you might see a decrease in taxes of 1%, while the Human Rights Tribunals quash rights, debt grows, and Canadians become ever more scared to speak in public.

    5. I’m in agreement with you Manny. It’s about being strategic with message control and picking your battles. The goal is to win the election and not piss away the one chance every four years at getting power. One thing I’d like to note – I think triggered Leftists tend to think more with their emotional “small brain” rather than the more logical “large brain”. So debating triggered leftists and trying to convince them about something using logical arguments (like MP Cooper was doing) is pretty much pointless. Once they heard anything to do with Christchurch all they were capable of was seeing red and charging straight ahead with horns lowered. Scheer’s party has to stick the landing if they have any chance in October.

      1. Strategic as in throwing your caucus under the bus so you don’t offend the liberal media? How has that ever worked in the past? The Conservative messaging is like socialism. It has never worked in the past but this time…..

    6. People in this blog are not conservative and not intelligent. They love Trudeau and enjoy his yoke. They are essentially fascist, always looking for a Great Leader.

      1. Some maybe. Most are looking for the government to shrivel like genitals in a Lake Superior swim, for their personal liberty to override government power, for property rights and FFS to not be taxed for breaking f**king wind.

    7. Manny, andy scheep keeps effing up. Signs Paris, bans Ezra, stands with the turd against Trump, and this. When is that a$$hole going to act a conservative????

      He make joe-who look like a real leader

    8. Dude, Cooper tried to hold someone accountable to THE TRUTH and was punished for it.

      Don’t be surprised when that happens again.

  8. Hey Manny
    I don’t care about the C Party or Scheer if this is the best they/he have; bring on the Liberals

    1. Well with that ignorant attitude (BTW you’re not alone) we will get Trudeau for 4 more years. Such a pouting selfish attitude. To say Scheer is like Trudeau is the height of stupidity- but it’s out there.

      It took 18 yrs for CPC & Harper to win a majority govt – Harper did the same as scheer – removed wedge issues and acted quickly on smallest mistakes -Max demoted our of Cabinet for security breach was right thing to do many howled about how this will hurt in Quebec. Harper got Majority after doing that.
      When the hard core tough talk conservatives understand that bravado will only make you irrelevant is when conservatives will do better.

      1. Harper didn’t sell himself to a special interest group to win the leadership nomination.
        The CPC had the opportunity to air out the stench of the tainted milk business in Halifax last year but chose not to.
        This amounts to the typical display of contempt by the party insiders for voting Joe.
        They could have dealt with Bernier differently and there would be not PPC today.
        For many this milk business goes beyond principle. This is about bread and butter. We toil with our hands and risk all in the competitive marketplace to watch special interest groups get preferential treatment.
        So now the CPC insiders can go fuck themselves and
        the faithful can quit whining about vote-splitting.

        1. “They could have dealt with Bernier differently and there would be not PPC today”

          Max is a self declared- libertarian- not bound to any policy. That’s why he
          1. Appointed himself as Leader of ppc w/o democratic vote
          2. Says anything he want as he no Caucus

          PMHarper had same problem with Max. The rebel. Demoted him. Never brought him back

          Evidence points to Max is the problem. No one could do a deal – so best to get rid of the libertarian

          1. https://www.libertarian.ca/platform_2015
            Max isn’t a libertarian.
            The Libertarians are what the Cons could have been, thirty five forty years ago.
            The Conservatives have contributed to #TheGreatCanadianDecline.
            The Conservatives failed fiscal responsibility 101.
            The Conservatives have failed the military almost as much as the Corrupt Liberals.

      2. And then the asshole Little Big Man Harper blew it for the taxpayer. He lied about gun control, he kept the CBC, he did not clean the stables of 50 years of Liberal corruption, ended no programs, he pranced around and pissed his pants. CON/LIB/NDP alla same ting Hop Sing. No pissy in soup.

      3. Hey Manny
        But anyway, my point is that policy follows culture as Mark Steyn is fond of stating; I agree with him. A C Party gov’t formed by the likes of Scheer and his fellow techno-crats is a zero-sum result for me as they’re not going to address issues that I personally value. In the meantime, it doesn’t really matter to me who gets in. I don’t really consider having an opinion on who does or doesn’t form a gov’t in this democracy “pouting” or “selfish” but if that’s the way you see it then you be you. So sorry to disappoint you.

      4. The problem is that Prinz Dummkopf and Andrew the Scheep are interchangeable. What’s the point in having a supposed choice in which parties to vote for when, as it turns out, there’s little difference between them?

        That’s one reason Trump won. He provided a clear alternative and voters responded to that.

  9. rzr – what an absolutely ridiculous comment. People with attitudes like yours are why the Libs are Canada’s natural governing party. People that would rather see Libs elected than have a conservative leader that deviates (even a little) from their position.

    Please take some time and watch Kevin O’Leary on this topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJGxld3cWzw

    The great irony of this debate is that when Scheer was elected, the Conservatives were criticized for electing such a right-wing leader. He just turns out to be a right-wing leader that actually wants to win, which is unique.

    1. “…when Scheer was elected, the Conservatives were criticized for electing such a right-wing leader.”

      Then why not actually be one?

      1. Exactly. How has Scheep demonstrated that he is different than Prinz Dummkopf? It seems that their policies are interchangeable and indistinguishable from each other.

        1. The one Uni party of the LibCons means the Globalist status quo continues that’s why Canadia’s PPC already has over 40,000 members and growing fast.

          Max getting his leadership stolen from the Globalist in the CPC while Scheer gloated while drinking his milk don’t realize what kind of Mad Max they just created.

          Max finally saw the light that playing fair within the CPC was all for not for Max’s very own and loved Conservative party CPC was as corrupt as the Liberals and then Scheer gave Max the Globalist boot on his face.

          The CPC created a very pissed off and determined Maxime Bernier now to the benefit of all Canadians.

          Mad Max is in it to win it and all of the other Globalist political parties in Canada are afraid and as they should be.

          Trudope and Spinless Scheer are aiding the PPC and Max’s rise with their mirrored Globalist agaendas so Max is gaining in popularity and has and is creating a great platform that Canadians can finally have the choice that is on the right and right for what our Canada actually needs right now.

          Max has never worked so hard as he is doing now building the PPC to take back Canada to all Canadians who think that the Globalist, Leftists, Corrupted and bought of Media all need a swift kick in the ass and to deplatform all of their insane agendas.

          Max is calling out the bullshit of all the Globalist corrupt leftist parties and their presstitute media.

          Go ahead and quote your silly wrong polls.

          Polls will not win the next election only a very strong and determined leader with the right platforms will win.

          Thabk God for the CPC showing Max and all Canadians that they are the exact same party as Trudeau Liberals with a spineless Scheer.

          Go Max Go

          Go PPC members Go

  10. Let’s walk on eggshells, Manny, until the election and throw the principles out the door to win. Cooper should just leave CPC, either as an independent or join Max. Someone in this party has to stand up for what is right.

    1. What would joining Max accomplish – NOTHING!!
      Zero chanceof PPC forming government.
      Everytime I see the PPC bashing Scheer it cements in my mind the PPC are nothing but a Liberal proxy party because you all don’t see re-electing Trudeau as a threat. You seem to embrace it as long as you get Scheer.
      Talk about sore losers, and willing to toss the country to get even.
      This country will be gone if Trudeau is re-elected.
      Trudeau is the target, not Scheer and by continuing to bash Scheer you belittle yourselves and make yourselves more irrelevant than you already are.
      The policies of the PPC are great, but your methods doom them.
      You would be better of in the CPC tent and drive those policies at conventions.

      To top it off Bernier is not a reliable leader, he will walk away after this election and the PPC will be a forgotten footnote that helped Trudeau put the final nail in Canada’s coffin.
      The first post national country under complete UN control.

      1. Scheer will lead the first post national country under complete UN control.

        Only Max promises to get rid of the Paris Accord and the UN.

        Nice try but Canadians have awoken to the LibCons corruption and who when in power have allowed us all to get to this unforgivable point.

        Canada needs an about face and only the PPC offers that.

      2. Yeah, we tried that. Your tent is not big enough, apparently.

        Free speech? out of the tent.
        Infanticide? out of the tent.
        Balanced budgets? out of the tent.
        Secure border? out of the tent.
        Small limited government? out of the tent …

        Seeing a pattern her? The Jehovah’s witnesses going door to door here pushing Scheer are getting annoying. Sorry, CPoC astro turfers.

  11. What is troubling is that the Conservative Party should absolutely be killing the Liberals in the polls. They are not. In fact, it is a neck and neck race at this point. If Andrew Scheer keeps this stuff up he will hand the Trudeau Government another term in office.

    This should trouble the majority of Canadians because it will most likely lead to the West deciding that they have had enough of Quebecers dominating politics at the expense of the rest of Canada. Alberta may well initiate a Unilateral Declaration of Independence (UDI). If that happens it will frature Canada in more ways that can be imagined. Our political leaders owe us better than this. Allowing the country to frature is one hell of a legacy.

    It is long past time for conservatives to speak out to rebuke our political leaders. To do nothing is unacceptable. Your “silence implies consent” and that is more of a threat to the country than is your speaking out to rebuke our political leaders.

    1. Jim

      Just a suggestion wrt to this bit

      “have had enough of Quebecers dominating politics at the expense of the rest of Canada. ”

      Can you replace “Quebecers ” with Laurentian elite in the Montreal-Toronto corridor. Theres some (a lot) of Quebec residents that dislike that bunch as much as westerners .

      1. But Joseph they were led by K-becers as PM. And how many of those K-becers voted for the Bloc and are still separtists?
        UnMe (aka Feces Eater) said I was bigot for stating historical fact. K-bec’s dominance has led to the state of the nation to this day. Even though PM Vaginista was born in Ottawa, he claims to be a K-becer and that “we’re better”. His gay father, Mulroney and Chretien have ruined this country by destroying its independence. Yeah some of those elitists live and TO and Ottawa for sure but the Laurentian Cabal is centered in K-bec.

  12. Polly’s comments encapsulated in one sentence.
    Those that want to campaign to liberal voters agree with Scheer’s leadership style, those that want to campaign to conservative voters support Bernier’s leadership style.
    This statement is in spite of what the outcome of the next election will be, what it is reflective of is that there are voters and politicians that believe a lot of things that are not true, which is a segue to this next statement.
    Fear is an acronym for false evidence appearing real.
    This is also a feature of people that believe in things like the theory of anthropomorphic global warming, that and that people crossing our borders illegally are not breaking the law cause racism.
    So please support which ever politican you please, but the same rule applies to the outcome.
    If its not to your liking on Oct 22 please don’t try to convince anyone particularly me, that its rain on their shoes.

    1. It is pretty simple, isn’t it? You either believe in a principle, or you don’t. Theresa May believed in staying in the EU. She was willing to burn everything down to achieve that goal, and she did.

      Can anyone point to a principle that Andrew Scheer believes in, something that he has taken action to support? Something that he is willing to end his political career to support? The only thing I can think of is “reelection”.

  13. Does anybody actual look at facts and reality- rather than post feelings. I thought this was a Conservative site.

    Did Trudeau (who is a Globalist) run a Globalist Platform, uncontrollable Budget – no – he ran a left centre — doing the same now (close borders, etc) to get votes.

    Votes are in the middle. Governance is the goal.

    Why not see what Scheer does as PM.

    Scheer is following PMHarper tactics. Smart. Only way to win in a 70% progressive Canada

    Albertans don’t get that BC has NO PROVINCIAL PARTY. Ontario takes 15 years of Liberal corruption to get a Conservative party and east coast is always liberal or conservative lite. Quebec never had a Conservative party – except for conservative light anti oil party in power now.

    If you understood Canada and not focused on your own feelings you’d realize Scheer is acting brilliantly.

    1. You’ve posted several times now and I’ve yet to see a reference to any policies. And that’s because Scheer isn’t a significant departure from Trudeau. It’s the same milquetoast, PC, progressive mush repackaged in white and blue.

      Yes, Canadians have become an unserious people and yes, maybe they need to be coddled and tricked for their votes because logic no longer works.

      But I won’t take part in this charade. Maxime gets my vote.

    2. I liked Brad Trost. If Conservatives run roughshod over Bernier, Cooper and Trost, I’m taking the exit before they show me the door.

      1. More examples of “you should come inside the tent to support your policy … oh THAT policy? OUT OF THE TENT!”

      2. I also liked Brad Trost. Notice how the CPC has gotten rid of every leadership candidate that was a real conservative. Kellie Leitch for examples. I believe the only one still hanging in there is Cheryl Gallant.

    3. Harper was a loser. The evidence. In the election race the village idiot Turdeau beat him.
      Scheer is no savior, he will throw the west under the bus. The sooner the west separates the better, with the assistance of a Liberal majority.

      1. Harper was not really a loser. The media assassinated him. Conservatives are not running against the Left; they’re running against the media. Canadians, for the most part, don’t think critically. They let the media tell them what to think and how to vote. By the time they wake up it will be far too late, and Canada will be a bankrupt, totalitarian dictatorship like Venezuela. Conservatives need to take a page from Trump’s handbook and act conservative, enough to inflame the media to a frothing rage so that they expose their true totalitarian, communist natures.

        1. Harper had the opportunity to bring the media under control. He blew it! Harper was a loser!

        2. The weird part is that Harper and the Cons knew the State and Corporate Media were corrupt to the bone and he understood that both the Corporate and State run Media have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo… a status quo that allows for Media monopolies who are not answerable to the public while at the same time are reliant on Liberal party corruption in order to continue their exclusive reign over the nation without the burden of competition … the Media are actually MORE corrupt now, openly corrupt and proud of it, just ask Gerry Diaz… The Cons have never had a plan to run against the enemy of the people, the Media. They’ve never had a plan to fight against the sacred cows of Trudopiastan. This country is a diseased cult of a nation that for all intents and purposes ended the moment Canadians were stupid enough to vote for a crazy french language supremacist named Peeair… over and over again. No one will convince me that the Cons wanted to govern as conservatives or that they tried their best to win the last election, they don’t and they didn’t… Cons want to continue to lose, that is why they allowed the Queerbek Dairy Mafia to choose their new leader, stuttering Andy… the same reason stuttering Andy doesn’t want to give Trudopians an alternative to Queerbek style Governance. Any country that would vote for Justine the Turdhole is simply not a serious nation, more like a “Post National State” or a cult… Lets face it, the good guys lost.

    4. I am buying a federal conservative party membership so that I can now have a direct say in getting Andrew Scheeit removed. I urge everone here to do the same.

    5. Harper had a majority and pissed it away and now you want us all to vote for spineless Scheer.

      PPC is the only party that can give conservatives a real platform for real right policies against the Globalist left.

    1. Exactly; party loyalist. All that matters is votes for the party. There is no principle, no person, no ideal that is greater than the party.

      “Cult” is another word that starts with capital C.

  15. Can Manny answer the question? What does Andrew Scheer believe in? Why won’t the blowhard answer a simple question?

    If he don’t believe in anything, what reason is there to vote for him?

  16. Scheer is a halfling. I am undecided who would make the worst PM, Scheer or Turdeau. Scheer has absolutely no understanding of what it means to be Conservative – less government. He couldn’t get along with Max who would have won if Scheer’s people had not cheated. He then disciplines an MP for pointing out that a terrorist was a Marxist and not a conservative. I cannot hold my nose tight enough to vote for the dickhead Scheer. The Liberal stench is too strong. My last vote for the Progressive Conservative Party was Brian Mulroney. I could not vote for the witch Campbell who had brought in gun control. I may have already made my last vote for the Conservative Party. Bring on Max.

      1. He helped Joe Clark count heads for the vote. The Liberals put Joe Who in along with Campbell. Cons always pick nice safe losers who lose for them over and over and over.

        1. Scheer is supposed to lose that’s been the plan all along.

          Trudeau is the chosen Globalist king

          Only one party has held the power of our federal government

          LibCons

          Time for a complete change of our federal government for truly our very first time.

          1. “Scheer is supposed to lose thats been the plan all along.” absolutely correct… Cons don’t want to win.

      2. Ignorant Liar. I joined reform and fought Campbell. Was Preston/Day/Harper Lawyer.

        Blue liberal Chrétien was Liberal Leader (not socialist Globalist Trudeau) it took us 18 years to get Majority (3 Party mergers Refrom/alliance/CPC only to get a broader Conservative party – got Government for 9 yrs and some ignorant conservatives want to break it up and start all over again to get to same point 18 yrs from now.

        Pure stupidity

        1. Manny, you seem to imagine we accomplished much with Reform.
          Cause where I sit nothing really changed.
          We are still in debt beyond all reason.
          Government still strangles every attempt at productive work.
          Regulation has remained beyond absurd”If it is not Permitted,it is Forbidden”.
          Pravda still brays at our expense.
          We remain unarmed and unable to defend ourselves, both as a nation and individually.
          Reform taught me this, The West ain’t welcome.That kleptocracy cannot be reformed peacefully.
          We need a new Elite,which is way easier than replacing the citizens and a whole lot less destructive.
          Nine wasted years.
          What I have learnt is this,I have very little in common with our Eastern Comrades.
          Borrowing against children unborn ,thats national debt,is treason.
          Selling your grandchildren into slavery builds no future.
          The Heart of Reform were people who despised Liars,fools and bandits.
          Which is what the amalgamated conservative party quickly filled up with.I was appalled how quickly the real reform MP’s were shown the door.
          Citizens who reward liars,thieves and slanderers get what they deserve.
          Another term of this toxic Liberal Party ought to do the job.
          Good and Hard.Confederation is dead.
          Can we please bury its rotting corrupt carcase and get on with our lives?

          1. Exactly. The west was sold down the river by the Laurentian Elite that took over the Conservative Party. The Reform idea died.

        2. Just reading the stuff posted, especially by you CON BOY. I heard you speaking when Harper was a “CON”. I don’t buy it now, either. Too bad your dear CON Party is getting trashed next go round. A fitting end. CON BOY didn’t even raise a decent fight to beat Sock Boy. Imagine that, losing to Sock Boy and dumping this country into Soros Land?

          I’m voting UDI in Alberta.

  17. The fact remains that in this country with our electoral system, we must play for the relatively few voters that tend to switch their support. All other thing being equal, a popular vote of about 39% will return a solid majority, while a a popular vote of 25% could be almost complete annihilation in the HofC. These voters are not solid conservatives or liberals , or they wouldn’t switch. They tend to listen to the messages in mass media, and respond emotionally and with self-interest. Remember that the media are hostile to conservatives, and will use any event to stir up controversy to disrupt the conservative electoral chances. While standing up for “principles” might be desirable, it is a losing proposition. If you lose an election you have nothing: no influence whatever. If you lose to these corrupt an immoral Liberals, we will have less than nothing, because their policies will distort the electoral system so that conservatives could never achieve power again. There is too much at stake here to fret about one MP’s removal from a committee, even though what that MP did was not really objectionable in my view. If we can achieve power, we can defend ourselves and the whole country. If we do not achieve power, we stand to lose every subsequent election and eventually Canadians will lose their country.

    1. Your statement is exactly why Canada will break up soon. Elect Trudeau and Sask and Alberta gone. Elect the CON and Alberta and Sask gone. Burn that Red Liberal Rag on Canuckistan Day. Canada is the prime example of what a Democracy is not. It is not and never has been one man/woman one equal vote. The deck has been stacked by a fucked up rigged constitution created by the drunken traitor and anti American J.A. MacDonald since day one. Break it up and start again if that is what people want. For me as an Albertan I want a UDI and stick Canuckistan up the ROC’s ass.

  18. I see Manny still has not pointed out any actual policy. All he has are logical fallacies in support of voting for his cult. Sorry, I meant “political party”, not cult.

    “Orange man bad”; sorry again, “Max is the problem”.
    “Vote for my guy, or you support Trudeau”.
    Tell me what your guy supports. “You don’t understand how politics works in Canada.”
    Answer a simple question; what is the policy? “You are guaranteeing another 4 years of Trudeau, you ignoramus”.

  19. The only thing that is more insulting than being continually ignored by a Party that I supported all my life, is to be scolded for my unhappiness by hacks from that very same Party.

    Their late arrival on this scene is not for matters of principles, but rather, the entirely altruistic reasons of self-preservation and diminishing coffers. In other words, they’re scared.

    And if (when) turdo la doo gets in, you can rest assured that Scheer and his fartcatchers will get it all wrong yet again – by relying on the analysis of their little poli-sci grads instead of lowering themselves to actually listen to deplorables such as us.

  20. The element of surprise is something the frenchies hate. You backbench the sheer smegma and invite the Bern back in just in time for the election.

    They will be caught with their lil dicks and balls out in the open with no toilet paper to wipe their asses nor their snouts and tears.

    Bring Canada back.

  21. I don’t want the media outrage mob running this country. That is what Scheer will give us, as demonstrated by his actions time after time. Harper was, and Scheer is too polite to the media. Both think if you could just be nice enough, the media will stop being so mean.

    Yes I want a Canadian Donald Trump. Someone who will fight back, will start the attack, but not such an a-whole. I want a Rodrigo Duterte. Both are effective and the media hates both of them because they upset the “AGENDA.” The mainstream media will not support a small c conservative leader no matter what. So we will have a milquetoast Conservative the media may not constantly attack or a conservative leader with some fire in their belly.

    I believe Canadians are far more conservative than most realize, they just need to be educated that they are, and Scheer isn’t the leader to do it, and the media won’t help.

    So we small “c” conservatives need to push back, like Cooper did when someone maligns conservatism. We need to point out the racism, Nazism, Fascism are ALL left wing (progressive) ideals.

  22. Usually I’ll vote for the someone who most closely identifies with what I believe to be the best direction based on a strong national defence policy, freedom of speech, property rights, fiscal responsibility, small government and term limits.
    It is not Scheer.
    It isn’t the broken Con party and hasn’t been for a very long time.
    Canadians welcome The Decline because they’re too busy getting drunk or stoned or both, complaining about The Donald and the Weather and getting outrageous tatoos because they’re idiots.
    Manny is right about the 70% progressive. In 10 years it might be 80% with so many more elderly conservatives 6 feet under.
    I might also just vote for a duck if one is running.

    1. Buddy – since there is no duck I will vote for a turkey – Trudea! The sooner this mess implodes the better. Independence 2020. I the meantime I suggest you acquire gold, silver or greenbacks.

      2. Venezuela has been imploding for more than a decade. Think it can’t happen here? Think again.

  23. Our Ideal voting for result…
    We don’t (choose) to be dictated to.. we (elect) to be governed.

    Our actual voting for result…
    We don’t (choose) to be governed.. we (elect) to be dictated to.

    Our system is corrupt and needs tweaking, all votes should count, whether CAST or NOT.
    If you can’t garner a 51% voter turn out and get 50.1% of all votes CAST then you don’t have a mandate.
    No new spending, no new policy implementation, just maintain the status quo,
    be the manager your voting results dictate.
    Our new type of democracy should be called, proportional power privilege.
    Based on how many votes you get of (ALL) voters whether cast or not.

  24. As if the Cooper affair isn’t enough, now we have Conservative members along with the Liberal and NDP members of the “Standing Committee for Justice and Human Rights”, voting to shut down the video feed of the proceedings at which free speech advocates Lindsay Shepherd, Mark Steyn, and John Robson were to testify.

    https://www.spencerfernando.com/2019/06/04/mps-including-conservatives-vote-to-shut-down-video-feed-of-free-speech-advocates-testifying-at-house-committee/

    Manny, I gave Scheer lots of rope…I even supported him in the leadership race, not realizing the milk shenanigans going on in the background. But no more…he is almost as bad as the Turd.

    1. Nailed it Ken. When it comes to promoting/ protecting our freedom of speech, property rights, etc., Scheer and his flock of sheep are no better than turdo & Co.

  26. I am now a subscriber to Amazing Polly’s youtube channel. I also follow Manny on twitter, because I agree with his positive posts regarding Trump’s fearless (and successful!!) political style. It’s the same style I see in Nigel Farage (Brexit) and Maxime Bernier (PPC), but at heart, Manny is a classic Canadian Progressive Conservative bedwetter, who doesn’t believe that a critical mass of “real” conservatives exists in Canada, so he shits on Max due to fear of losing the next election. We’re headed to Venezuela-ville, like a freight train comin’ down Crow’s Nest Pass, and the current CPC definitely won’t change that course. It’ll take a leader, and a party, much stronger than they’ve got. So, vote PPC because otherwise, the train wreck is a-comin’; it’s just a matter of where and when.

  27. Scheer, with his blandness and lack of distinctive policies, cannot win the election but Trudeau can lose it and give it to Scheer. The PPC reflects my beliefs and I like Mad Max. The inability of Scheer to take a hard stance on any of the big issues of concern (climate alarmism, invasive immigration, national debt, military preparedness, …) is disturbing. I oppose supply management but it is not a make or break issue for me. It’s nice that Scheer supports more pipelines but since he doesn’t seem to have a plan to get them, what does that support mean? Bernier has a plan; of course it may not work, but at least it’s a plan. However, while Farage and Trump have had great success , both of them have high charisma and public speaking skills. I don’t know that Bernier is sufficiently strong in those and that is what will make or break the party’s election chances. My hope is that the elite won’t stop Bernier from participating in televised leaders debates and that he can pull off a strong performance in those. If he does, then PPC could win a number of seats and pull the national conscience to the right.

  28. Note to Manny:
    If you’re the same Manny I think you are, then maybe you should look at this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiUMr-hP8pc
    If you’re the same Manny I think your, you talk to the Rebel. Why doesn’t your “brilliant” Scheer talk to the Rebel. I’ll answer that:
    He’s afraid of the CBC and the rest of the Liberal media.
    Until Max came along I was going to spoil my ballot. Now I have a choice. Scheer tossed one of his own under the bus.

    1. I am big fan of Manny and think that today he has made some very cogent relevant points BUT –
      see this tweet Manny? –
      ‘Manny_Ottawa
      @manny_ottawa
      9m9 minutes ago
      More
      Let me clear explain why I support conservatives who at times in conflict.’
      @ezralevant building a great Conservative media company.
      @AndrewScheer trying to pry government from inept Trudeau.
      2 very different goals require different paths and decisions.
      My goal #TrudeauMustGo

      3 replies 6 retweets 20 likes
      Manny, do you see what ‘Ghost of Ed’ is talking about??? Instead of reading about ‘gaslighting’, we are all living in the movie with Ingrid Bergman.

      1. “My goal #TrudeauMustGo”

        Yes, but Dairy Queen is not helping it by trying to alienate his base in order to appease his enemies. He screwed up royally on this one and played right into Turdos hands. Sometimes i wonder if Dairy Queen isn’t a bigger useful idiot than Max.

          1. Enema, it is not mine, I stole it from someone, can’t recall where and who possibly at SDA.

        2. You definitely got something there.

          What did the SDA masthead say at one time, “Pleasing your enemies will not make them your friends” or some such.

          Dairy Queen, love it, so apt.

  29. So…in summary: if you don’t follow’s Manny’s advice and support the CPC’s technocrats, you’re “ignorant,” “selfish”, “stupid,” a
    “liar,” and emotional. Thanks, but no thanks. He really does prove my point, that there’s not much difference between the two. But I’d rather be called a Nazi but the Liberal party; at least it’s amusing!

  30. Manny, here’s the problem. We are told that we have to vote Tory because Trudeau is terrible. Fine. I agree Trudeau is terrible. So, let’s say we get a Tory government. What will they do? Will the Torys stand up to the environmentalists to get pipelines built? Will they stand up to the radical progressives who want to limit individual liberty and freedom in the name of diversity? Will they stand up to the media and the left and rein in illegal immigration and make real reforms to the immigration system? Will the Torys defund the CBC? Will they support free market reforms?

    The problem is that we all know the answer to those questions. The problem with the incremental change that Harper advocated is that Trudeau undid almost all of it in a matter of months. The only creatures the Liberals haven’t been able to resurrect are the wheat board and the gun registry: two issues where the Torys took fundamental, transformational action. What is the evidence that Scheer and his team will act that aggressively? There isn’t any. You say above that the goal is governance. No, that isn’t the goal. Governance is a means to and end. Not an end in itself. If the Torys aren’t going to do any good with that power, and all indications are they will not, then Torys can’t expect voters to support them. Not being Trudeau is not enough.

    1. HEAR HEAR.

      “Not being Trudeau is not enough.”

      That right there is a T-shirt if I ever saw one. That is the battle cry of the deplorable.

    2. Slaw, well said. Hear, hear. You, in two short sentences, sum up the debate in this thread, and the fears of libertarian conservators commenting.

      Some want power for power’s sake, just not be Trudeau bunch, and those that actually believe in conservator/freedom principles.

  31. One other point. People like Manny have been at the forefront of the conservative movement in Canada for decades. What have they conserved? We have abortion on demand. We have runaway deficits and debt. We have euthanasia. We have gay marriage. We have massive government-backed cartels dominating industries. We have almost unchecked immigration. We have speech codes and clown show tribunals. We have a BC economy reliant on laundered Chinese money, an AB economy in the tank, a bevy of have not maritime provinces and a federal political scene dominated by a Laurentian elite in service to their corporate master in Quebec and Ontario.

    What have you conserved? What has the conservative movement in Canada achieved in the last 20 years? 10 years? Maybe it’s time to step aside and give someone else a go. See if others can do better rather than re-hash the same tired old big government Tory script that fails to achieve much of anything for anyone other than the corporate backers and trough-feeders.

    1. slaw, much of your post is nothing but religious based bullschitt. Don’t tell me what my personal life has to be, I’ll decide that for myself. Governance is about running the country, not my personal life

  32. Scheer’s cowardice has given a gift to the frat-boy.

    The conservative vote will be split. If the Liberals get back in, this country will cease to exist and we will be stateless people.

    Cooper should never apologise and Scheer should grow some guts and tell everyone to f— off. He is not liked, anyway. He might as well be hated for the right thing, if he has it in him.

    2. “The conservative vote will be split. If the Liberals get back in, this country will cease to exist and we will be stateless people.”

      I would ask “what conservatives”? Seen any lately?

      At this point what difference does it make? I say…burn it down. The place has been burnt to death for the last 30 years or more, people just have’t noticed what with hockey, now Raptors.

      Cooper, if he had any balls should run with MAX. Send a message. Personally, I left Kanaduh when Sheer won. UDI for the west. Tronna can KMA!

        1. No argument there! Hence UDI. I live in Alberta, the whipping boy for Zentrul Kommand. We paid (and still do, under Equalization) pretty much all the bills to Zentrul Kommad, while our main industry is being shut down by Zentrul Kommand’s fake BS on Glowgull Warmening/Klimate Change.

          It’s a damned fraud, that even Andy 2% will not debunk! A blatant money transfer process where the west pays the freight on this scam. Talk of “only 12 years left” are as bogus as ever. And I should know, as a Geologist. Fake BS! Even the UN doesn’t use the terminology anymore, preferring just a flat out transfer of wealth from the First World to Third Wold. Just send money…or else. The clowns in Ottywah are 4-5 years behind the news on this. Look it up!

          Canadians are beyond belief stupid on this fraud.

          Fine, the country can crash and burn, “it’s the only to be sure”!

  33. So they are voting across “party” lines to shut down the cameras when people the left hates are going to be in front of them?

    “Not only must justice be done; it must also be seen to be done.”

    What is the obversion of that?

    For injustice to be done, it must remain hidden.

    People who refuse to answer simple questions, people who like publication bans … stop voting for them.

  34. It’s politics gurls. Nothing more.

    Conservatives are well known for their quarrelsome nature. We’ll argue till the cows come home amongst ourselves and forever sit on the opposition bench.
    We’d sooner win an argument than form government.

    The nature of conservatism is such that the religious right and libertarians feel comfortable in the same tent. These groups are basically incompatible and argue continually – non stop. Pointing out their ‘principles’ to one another….

    Politics doesn’t have principles. It’s about power. Your personal life has principles and rules. You decide which rules of life your going to follow.

    Politicians are pragmatic- their values are flexible. You don’t have to like it but that is the nature of the game.

    1. And voters are also pragmatic.

      If a party never comes through on its promises to its voters, then it can no longer expect their support. That’s the point. No one is arguing that Scheer should never compromise. No one is arguing for Scheer to blindly run on a rail. No one is asking for 100% of everything. No one is asking Scheer not to politic. In fact, I think what we are asking is that he start politicking!

      As I say, voters are pragmatic. If the Torys don’t deliver then their voters will find another party. We literlaly just went through this with the Reform Party and the powers that be learned nothing. It’s all happening again. Except this time, the West will just want out.

      1. Once again, well said and exactly.

        So far Scheer is acting like the deputy house leader to Trudeau. Caves on everything and stands for nothing.

    2. “We’ll argue till the cows come home amongst ourselves and forever sit on the opposition bench.”

      So I am supposed to vote for a Liberal who calls himself a Conservative instead of a Liberal who calls himself a Liberal. What does that get me that I don’t have already?

      1. Scar

        Of course not. It’s your right to vote – or not.

        I hold no expectation of any political party. It’s a good idea to throw them all out on a regular basis.

  38. The bogeyman of all Conservatives (note the large C) is the press. They are scared absolutely shitless by the media, and have never developed the brains or the guts to use the bastards to their advantage. So consequently, they walk and talk to the beat of the press drums – afraid to do or say anything of substance.

    There have been few Canadian politicians who treated the press with the contempt that it deserved and made IT work for THEM. Though I hate to give the POS any credit, turdo la first was one of them, along with Rene Levesque, Mike Harris, and Ralphie.

    1. Absolutely correct. Trump was elected in large part for calling fake news reporters “Fake News.” These so called journalists have to be challenged in a very loud voice.
      Scheer’s latest blunder, demoting one of his own and forcing him to apologise, is a serious turn about for his election chances.

    2. JM

      The press is an extension of the people themselves.

      Canada is a very liberal country. A publication that promotes Conservative views wouldn’t last 6 months before it went out of business.

      We don’t have a true Conservative party for the same reason.

      1. Well it’s not exactly like the Liberal media is doing too well. Otherwise why would they have asked for financial help from the government and receive more than a half billion dollars in return. You can bet the Toronto Sun and the Rebel won’t be getting any of that, and they’re doing just fine.

  39. Maxime Bernier
    @MaximeBernier

    Andrew Lawton: “Conservatives are never going to win when they accept what the Left is saying at face value and take out these battles on their turf and their terms.”

    Indeed. I’m not playing the Left’s manipulation games anymore. I am fighting on MY turf.

    True North
    @TrueNorthCentre

    Andrew Scheer caved to the left and kicked Michael Cooper, a CPC MP, off the justice committee.

    True North’s
    @AndrewLawton

    says Scheer’s decision was “cowardly.”

    https://mobile.twitter.com/MaximeBernier/status/1135687358811127813

  41. Ok kiddies get Turdo re elected, you may as well hand in your handguns now. Oh and Kate close the blog before section 13 closes it for you.

    1. Ezra is right on the money. Scheer is imploding and hemorrhaging support to Max. Damn that idiot. UnMe and other Librano operatives love it.

  44. Idiots here are salivating at a prospect of a Brexit Party like result. Instead you’ll get Notley like result.

  45. Scheer could promise to do all those things true conservative want, but his main roadblock to getting them implemented is the Federal Supreme Court and the gift that keeps on giving from Pierre Trudeau, the constitution and the charter of right and freedoms. I’m surprised that this hasn’t been mentioned yet. We are hooped because the Supreme Court rules the country and every prime minister and premier, except for a Quebec Premier is scared to use the notwithstanding clause. Canada is done.

    1. Your a quitter?

      I will never give up and will always try to fight and change our country for the better.

      The pendulum of life has swung way into the insane corrupt, but like all pendulums they will swing back and I firmly believe that the October 2019 federal election will prove that it actually is swinging back to the sane.

      Trudope senior created this and his Trudope jr is helping to destroy it with his insane satanic values.

      https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoRprPRWsAA4y_K?format=jpg&name=large

      1. Nope. Not a quitter. Just acknowledging reality. We are hooped because of the Charter and because the Supreme Court has over the years invented things to add to the charter. Until it is changed or a Gov’t decide to use the “Notwithstanding Clause” then nothing will change.

        1. Well we’re in luck midislandmike!

          Max’s middle name just happens to be

          Maxime Notwithstanding Bernier

          Btw great posts which went straight to the heart of the matter.

  47. Maxime Bernier
    @MaximeBernier

    More evidence this is not 2019 but 1984.

    Liberals and NDP on the Justice Committee are rewriting history.

    And once again, instead of defending free speech and their colleague Michael Cooper @Cooper4SAE, the Tory members abstained from voting.

    https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/politics/justice-committee-votes-to-expunge-words-of-christchurch-shooter-from-record-1.4450974

    https://mobile.twitter.com/MaximeBernier/status/1136008221263564801

  50. Maxime Bernier
    @MaximeBernier

    Read this thread by @AndrewLawton
    reporting on today’s justice committee hearing on free speech.

    Unbelievable indeed.

    Andrew Lawton
    @AndrewLawton

    All committee members, including the Conservatives, just voted to suspend television broadcast of testimony by

    @MarkSteynOnline

    @NewWorldHominin

    @thejohnrobson

    . Unbelievable.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/AndrewLawton/status/1135894068972724224

    https://mobile.twitter.com/MaximeBernier/status/1136052060431011842

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