Bumped with continuing updates and links:
Sure, “Jody”. Wilson-Raybould says PMO restricting her ability to ‘speak freely’ at justice committee.
“The OIC addresses only my time as attorney general of Canada and therefore does nothing to release me from any restrictions that apply to communications while I served as minister of veterans affairs and in relation to my resignation from that post or my presentation to cabinet after I had resigned,” she said in the letter.
As if Trudeau’s going to be seen putting another Indian in jail.
I expect restrictions-of-the-Order-don’t-allow-me-to-speak-my-truth testimony that throws the media ball back into the Trudeau court, and not much else. Check CPAC for a live feed at 3:15 ET.
Early in her testimony, I’ll give her due credit: “veiled threats”. She’s getting right to the point.
With her opening statement complete…
Wow. #JodyWilsonRaybould said she asked Trudeau directly if he was politically interfering with her decision to not defer prosecution against Montreal-based engineering firm #SNCLavalin (in her role as attorney general of Canada). This is a huge scandal: https://t.co/OxZJC9MmTu pic.twitter.com/anEuJQiFTK
— Joanna Chiu 趙淇欣 (@joannachiu) February 27, 2019
Pretty much.
This too.
"We would line up people to write op-eds"? #JodyWilsonRaybould – I'd love to hear who those people are.
— Robert Jago (@rjjago) February 27, 2019
I retract my initial skepticism. As summarized in the comments – “She has chucked PM Trudeau and his whole Liberal cabal right under the freaking bus.” In my defense, I underestimated the stupidity of Trudeau and his band of merry idiots.
“Bombshell” is not to strong a word for her testimony. Where it goes from here, who knows? It depends on whether the paid media is satisfied with more resignations or if they pick up the torches and go for the head. But never underestimate the tenacity of a Liberal with a sub-80 IQ.
I may stay up for this: BREAKING – Prime Minister #Trudeau will now speak to reporters at 8:00 PM ET tonight.
And for those who missed it, Wilson-Raybould just compared Trudeau to Nixon.
I’m seeing a fair bit of this.
I have to confess. JWR's #LavScam testimony today was far more explosive than I expected.
So explosive, I think @liberal_party backbenchers will be irate and front-benchers will smell @JustinTrudeau's blood in the water and begin organizing for a leadership run. Trudeau's done.
— Mark Towhey (@towhey) February 27, 2019
Question of the Day: If Trudeau was OK with what we heard… WTF does he NOT want us to hear?
Well, to be honest, I’m not so surprised by the lady’s presentation, which was magnificent: the consensus in my neck of the woods over the past few days was that she was strong-armed by thugs who don’t know how to read, especially their own bills.
The OIC, which was a serious mistake, portended more of the same: (1) what exactly did anybody think would be the lady’s reaction?; and (2) what JW-R is precluded from disclosing at this time will become a focus of opposition inquiry now for weeks, until the government inevitably relents on that score as well.
Among my crowd, we had been discussing the possibility (probability) that she would raise the issue of aboriginal treatment under the law, to wit: why would you expect us to follow the white man’s law, when the white man won’t even follow it himself? She did, and it’s a fair point, in at least some cases, and I recognize that there’s lots of criticism to go around.
In this connection, it absolutely astounds me that Michael Wernick, a Montreal native, the current Clerk of the Privy Council and former Deputy Minister of Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development from 2006-2014 (under five Harper Ministers) is being reported by JW-R as strong-arming her on the phone over SNC-Lavalin in the name of the current prime minister. F***’s that about, in the context?
There is tons more to talk about: the credibility of this government, this civil service, this media and this claque of political operatives is in the dumpster fire at the moment, but I’m sort of with Tony Blair (paraphrasing, in reference to Trudeau, Jr.) about John Major: “How’s he going to get out of this one? Truth is, he’s not going to get out of this one.”
“…she would raise the issue of aboriginal treatment…”
Correct me if I am wrong but I am right now listening to a repeat of Jody’s opening remarks on CPAC and I am sure she opened her remarks with saying something about this hearing being on traditional Algonquin land. did I hear correctly?
You are correct.
Go to any public government event, speech, any university event, debate, meeting or lecture, any City Hall event, and the first thing you will hear is the MC “recognize that we are meeting on the unseeded territory of XXXXX first nation.” This guilt-soaked virtue-signalling is now standard practise across the country.
You are absolutely correct, Ken: she did say that.
As it happens, I am a member of the Anglican Church of Canada (St. James, Stratford ON), wherein the bulletin, every Sunday, reads, “We are gathered here on the traditional territory of the Anishinaabe, Chippewa and Haudenosaunsee Peoples — Treaty 29.”). The information is here:
https://www.ontario.ca/page/treaties#section-0
I am told, by a very close friend of mine, with material knowledge of the issues involved, that the vast majority of the treaty relationships in Ontario are working exceedingly well — most want more commercial opportunities, not fewer.
On the basis of this information, please draw your own conclusions re: the former Attorney-General’s remarks, and about the prospects for economic development in Western Canada on a similar basis.
This is not intended in any way as a lecture (as you know), but I think the prospects are excellent, with the right leadership.
Seems that some of you find it hard to believe that there might be an honest in jun and a liberal as well.
The fcuking K-Bec press are hopping mad. Sounds like a pond in spring.
Sorry, not sure if it’s been asked here. How much SNC stock is held by the Trudeau trust or the Morneau family?
“A few jobs in Quebec are more important than the rule of law in this country; BOOGA-BOOGA STEPHEN HARPER; and I completely disagree with the testimony I have not yet had time to review.”
Good grief, what window-licker came up with those talking points?
the butts’ absence is showing.
The essential part of this affair is the present Liberal iteration is true Grit – beholden to their Quebec cronies.
Lots more evidence of that coming up with the Adm Norman trial and other areas of crony interference a la Bombardier
TURDoh answering Qs in the HOC?
let me handle that:
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almost as bad as ummmmm . . . . . uhhhhhh . . . . . . . ummmmm . . . . . . bob . . . . . . . . uhhhhh . . . . . . . stan . . . . . .. uhhhhhh . . . . . field.
like I said, why the FCUK do hard core CONservatists put such DWEEBS on the goddamn ballot at times they could kneecap the LIEberals?
why the FCUK do they keep, on. doing that ??????
Kate said,
” … But never underestimate the tenacity of a Liberal with a sub-80 IQ…. ”
If you mean Justin, yes 70 to 75 would have been my guess for his IQ
Mine being in the top 3 % ( tested 6 times by psychologists ) and my late father ( doctorate in psychology ) who was testing people for IQ for decades from the 1940s to the late 1980s, I know a bit about IQ
Justin is in the 70-75 range, he is semi retarded.
You got tested? So did I. And I will admit that there were times it was advantageous to be provably brighter than the offsprings.
Poor wee groper Justa Turd. Show them your damn socks man. Show them the socks. The Soy Boy Socks.
Just watched Trudeau’s response.
Is he saying he doesn’t believe the victim?
#not a feminist
First question asked of Scheer by a cartel journalist, “aren;t you being a little harsh in calling for the PM’s resignation?” Screeching idiotic woman. During Turdholes carefully scripted grade 8 style “press conference” he told his fellow actors in the selected Media that he categorically denies JWR’s testimony and he also claims to be unable to answer certain questions pertaining to JWR’s testimony because he hasn’t had a chance to watch JWR’s testimony… !? WTF… He denies the testimony that he hasn’t heard or watched ?
Don’t get too excited. Judy is a leftist aboriginal prosecutor from EAST VAN. What we are seeing is the rise of the far left taking over Canada’s Natural Governing Party; very similar to the rise of Ocassio Cortez and Kamala Harris. After all, Judy held on to this until the right time. The Liberal Party is simply assassinating Trudeau and positioning itself ahead of the next election. Good Luck all you Canuckle heads. The ride’s only going to get tougher!
Any idea what happened to Rankin’s motion asking Trudeau for a broader waiver on cabinet secrecy? Last I saw, they were just going to recess for 5 minutes then come back to consider it.
Never mind. MSM not mentioning it, but I finally found it on ParlVu. Unsurprisingly, the Liberal majority defeated it 5-4. That will come back to haunt them.
Visiting Family in BC, I like to say “I told you so”.
The next Prime Minister spoke today, she will be switched in in place of the Hair Apparent, before the coming election.
The media guild will line up behind her immediately.
With the ILLUSION of ethics.
A woman and Aboriginal, you cannot argue against her wisdom,unless you wish the media to label you a racist woman hater..
Scheer fails to impress..Wilson-Raybould Wilson rules, the Liberals win,continue stealing while burying the evidence.
Canadian politics as usual.
Now the cornered rat is coming out and trying to fight back.
Only problem is damage has been done and RCMP HAS to be in there investigating. Very clearly saying that the PM acted in a criminal way and directed criminal activity. He’s done.
Don’t hold your breath waiting for that. Now if it was in High River.
Back in the 90s when I was working on deals internationally the (then new) Canadian Corruption of Foreign Public Officials Act was a a big deal, the legal counsel was “you will do serious jail time”, any bribes to gain a business advantage is a serious Canadian crime. There are exemptions for facilitation payments to police and customs officials because there’s no way around crooked cops, but other bribes a very strict no-no. But that’s the conventional legal system and the Liberals have created parallel social justice and social licencing systems.
Well, I thought Trudeau, Jr. did quite well tonight (stabilized the front), actually: it’s not over yet. Don’t underestimate him — he’s still his father’s son, and his father was a fighter, and declared one time, “the Quebec Ministers were determined not to be worn down”.
He’s dying his hair now, clearly, which, on balance, I think is a mistake, but what do I know? The eyelashes stayed on, which is helpful, to him, I guess. Also, he can’t perform without props.
It would indeed be helpful if the Tory critics, from Lisa Raitt to Tim Powers, would have a look in the mirror, and arrange to make the necessary adjustments.
And while we’re at it, it would also be helpful if Doug Ford paid for his own enhanced mini-van, rather than ragging on the OPP to do it for him, in the midst of a major health care reform programme in Ontario, where, you know, we have to win this thing. Spaghetti dinners? As an answer to a question in the Ontario Legislature? Dougie, you’re Premier of Ontario now, for crying out loud!
It’ll be tough, but I’m pretty certain we can get there!
Some ways to go yet.
My two cents:
From my perspective this is all angling for higher power. She sees an opportunity here….even conservative minded friends of mine are calling her noble on social media. Therefore I predict this topples dum dum and weak Scheer gains a placeholder minority government while she gains support, LPC leadership, and then becomes PM. The press will love how good she’ll make them feel cheering on a minority woman and she’ll be much worse than Trudeau.
Telling moment in the statement comes at around 27:30 when she states that Telford told her that they (Liberals) could get all kinds of people to write op-eds. This was how Goebbels worked, and how the MSM has adopted his program, poison the minds of the electorate through planned contrived propaganda on a massive scale by buying the press and the media. Anyone that now doesn’t see this through her statement is actually too stupid or moronic to vote in an election.
A telling comment in Trudeau’s response tonight is that he mentions pensions. Someone set me straight on this but isn’t the finance minister’s company involved with Canadian government workers pensions?
I believe government pensions are handled in-house. Morneau Shepell does mostly private-sector pension plans…
From Wikipedia:
“In 1966, Frank Morneau founded W. F. Morneau & Associates, an actuarial and benefit consulting firm. The firm expanded to open its first U.S. office in 1987 and it launched its administrative outsourcing practice in 1996. W.F. Morneau & Associates merged with Sobeco in 1997 to establish Morneau Sobeco, led by Bill Morneau as president and chief executive officer. Morneau Shepell, as it is known today, was formed in May 2008 through Morneau Sobeco’s acquisition of Shepell-fgi – Canada’s largest provider of employee health management and workplace training and education services – from Clairvest Group Inc. for $321.9 million. In the years since, Morneau Shepell has made a number of acquisitions, including SBC Systems Company Inc. (U.S. provider of employee benefits administration systems) in January 2012, Mercer Canada’s pension and benefits outsourcing business in November 2012, Ceridian’s U.S. health and welfare benefits administration business in August 2015,[12] Montreal-based Solareh (national health and wellness services provider that offers employee assistance programs) in December 2016 and Montreal-based Longpré (employee assistance and wellness program provider) in January 2017.
The pensions that Trudeau keeps referring to are those administered by the Caisse de dépôt et placement du Québec (CDPQ) (Quebec Deposit and Investment Fund), which is an institutional investor that manages several public and parapublic pension plans and insurance programs in Quebec.
Guess who is the single largest shareholder of SNC Lavalin…
Why of course it is the Caisse de depot et placement du Quebec.
The CBC was created by the Liberals in 1936. They have been working for them ever since.
So JWR was “fired” as AG in the cabinet shuffle precipitated by the Brison resignation. Brison was very quickly hired by BMO. I wonder if his resignation and soft landing at BMO was concocted as a means to give cover to the PMO to get rid of her. I would like to know if there were any discussions between the PMO and BMO to give Brison a soft landing to entice his resignation.
There are so many other Liberal scandals that are probably far worse than SNC Lavalin or anything Kal El said to JWR. And we will never hear about any of them, because JWR appears to be the singularity, the Liberal with a sense of ethics.
I personally know of at least two worse breaches than this mess. I’ve wondered if anyone but those affected would ever perceive what had happened and do something about it. But at some point I just closed the file and decided that it was a sign to me that I should stop trying to fit in and recognize the limitations of the society around me. The consequences of that will be known eventually and it will not be anything remotely like what you might imagine.
Yes, this is big news and I suppose the PM will be forced to resign, and retire from politics altogether. In a way it’s kind of absurd because he grew up inside this Liberal culture and the culture won’t change, the promoters of it will lay low, make a few mumbled statements about structural change, hope the electorate forgets, count on the other two parties to screw up, and choose a new puppet.
JWR will be about as welcome at the next Liberal convention as me and Erik Trump. If I were her, I would establish a new identity, disappear and raise llamas in an unknown location. That party won’t forget or forgive. Even a normal collection of political types would be hostile, so imagine what this bunch will be like.
I think Garneau will be pushed out into the spotlight. He is a bland and untroublesome figure who has enough competence to steer the party through what is likely to be a turbulent end to the parliament, but with the CPC, PPC and NDP all trying to position themselves to become the replacement, the Liberals won’t feel a lot of heat for very long. Their media allies will see to that (if anyone still gets their news from the Canadian media, I suppose some older people do, I watch it just for the laffs).
The only way Trudeau might hang on is to try a hail Mary like “only I can save the earth” or “yes I fought hard for jobs for Canadians,” and see if the public will buy it. I don’t think they would. Anyway, it is delicious karma to have this outcome, I’m sure they thought it a brilliant ploy to appoint a female native to that position and I’ll bet they expected she would be so overawed by her good fortune that she would come begging for advice every day. Ha, see they don’t know the culture nearly as well as they think they do. Those townhouses are a long way from the longhouses.
What the back room boys were thinking when Trudeau appointed women to make up 50% of his cabinet was that women were more “adaptable, pliable, etc.” and that they could be easily controlled. Well in every group there is at least one exception and JWR is going to prove this in spades. The lead-up to October is going to be made up of many beer and popcorn nights!
FREE SASKABERTA !!!
Re-elect TRUDOPE in “19 !!!!!!
We need an international border between the Prairies and Ottawa.
Well, think of it this way….what better way than trying to oust this guy in any other way. Too messy. He takes a “walk in the snow” and retires from politics…if he’s smart. Convenient, eh? Served his purpose, without wasting a better candidate. Raybould plays her part and presto….leadership review and the removal of all “his” aides. Clean slate. She is reinstated to the Party, Quebec gets whispered on “future considerations”, they play their part by screeching and yelling, grease applied and eveybody’s happy. Libs win the election. I mean, c’mon…Scheerly, ’tis to laugh.
Business as usual, Power Corp style. Next up, Doug Ford.
POAB: you just won the contest for most plausible explanation/prediction.
You’ve made some excellent points. I too believe that’s what will happen, they have to stay in power to send in the clowns if Alberta and the West move to go their own way.