We Don’t Need No Flaming Sparky Cars

CNBC;

Tesla’s problems with battery production at the company’s Gigafactory in Sparks, Nevada, are worse than the company has acknowledged and could cause further delays and quality issues for the new Model 3, according to a number of current and former Tesla employees. These problems include Tesla needing to make some of the batteries by hand and borrowing scores of employees from one of its suppliers to help with this manual assembly, said these people.
Tesla’s future as a mass-market carmaker hinges on automated production of the Model 3, which more than 400,000 people have already reserved, paying $1,000 refundable fees to do so.

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19 Replies to “We Don’t Need No Flaming Sparky Cars”

  1. I was reading elsewhere in the past that spelled it out clearly.
    Tesla is a cult stock. Results are cherry picked, all bad news is just part of the growth cycle and “temporary”.
    EV owners embody this membership. They are the Greens, who we all know dearly as those climate doom and doomers, where ALL facts are inconvenient. We’ve all known environmentalists thru the years, they are intolerant zealots, these are the Tsla fans.
    It’s a pump and dump stock, that has benefitted from the Trump induced stock market gains, masking the real and ugly truth of TSLA. The cultists view Musk as a godlike figure, where he really is a modern day PT Barnum. He’s a subsidy harvester

  2. What are all you luddites whinging about ?!
    What could be BETTER than a hand-built, mass production automobile ?! Who wouldn’t want the electric equivalent of a hand-built, bespoke, Rolls Royce for only $ 35,000.00 !? Oh, huh? What’s that? The cheapest hand-built Model-3 rolling out of the Tesla factory costs $ 59,000.00 ? Oh … well … not to worry … because of Trump’s TAX CUT and BOOMING stock market … the average American can easily afford to pay +$ 24,000.00 for their hand-built Tesla … big deal … everyone can afford $59k + $5k tax and prep = $900.00 +/mo. Car payment. No problem.
    Yes, being “green” is the exclusive territory of the “rich” … the “elites”. But we elites will be the only ones left on the planet after we euthanize all you little people to control over-population. Once we stop all you little people from consuming so much of mother earth’s resources … Gaia can begin … “healing”

  3. But we elites will be the only ones left on the planet after we euthanize all you little people to control over-population.
    And who will then do the work that is beneath those elites? Oh, yeah, a lot of people from far-away places with strange-sounding names who are in need of hugs, selfies, and parkas……

  4. Add a 25% premium for beaver bucks there friend.
    Oh, yeah, the elites get a nice taxpayer subsidy for buying an EV, my bad.
    Sales numbers still suck for EVs, clearly. Advocates say they are increasing, true, but as a percentage of overall sales, it’s very small and will continue to be for all the obvious reasons.
    Heck, I don’t care if people buy EVs, it’s the subsidies that I find reprehensible

  5. Looking at the pictures accompanying the second link, there is one hell of lot of crusty corrosion on those parts. And aluminum used as bolts? What were they smoking?

  6. I think a lot of money will be made on electric cars in the future.
    But probably not by Tesla.

  7. BADSR – you’re presuming that the elites think that far ahead. IMHO they don’t consider that there will always be dirty jobs that need to be done, so those jobs will go undone for a while.
    After a time the surviving elites will break into two groups: the elites of the elite who never get their hands dirty, and the deplorables who are needed to make civilization run. In time the deplorables will start talking about things like personal accountability and one law for all, and will have to be purged.
    Similarly, when these cycles purge the elites (think US and French revolutions), over time a new class of elites will develop.
    Repeat ad nauseum.
    heh, captcha “murphy 1400”, yes, Murphy’s law regularly visits 1400 Pennsylvania avenue. Right now it’s Murphy’s law to the elites, we deplorables had our going wrongs with back-to-back Obama terms.

  8. Brilliant comment… RE: Subsidy harvester. I sit back and laugh at those people. They get exactly what they deserve.

  9. Not much hype on how great these things are over the past cold snap … just a whack of stories of drivers almost freezing to death because they are not turning on the heaters (so they can get to their destination before running out of power).
    Still don’t get it … it’s not free to run … just going to put your hydro bill up even more!

  10. Reading the concerns/advice and looking at the pics reminded me of how i spent my time last summer working on my car. But my car is over ten years old and $500 in parts will get me though another five years.

  11. Thanks, but I can’t own it, saw that awhile ago on another Musk bashing site.
    It’s so apropos!
    But hey, rockets! Ain’t OPM great!

  12. Saw that here in Victoria a few weeks ago during our “cold” snap. A leaf driver beside me at light, wearing a toque, heavy gloves, and frosted windows……..jeebuzz, what an idiot. It just verifies what the Greenies really think and feel.
    What a terrible car, but an even more deluded driver.
    And yes, they aren’t free to run, but one would never know that, from all the FREE chargers at municipal parking lots in town. This town is full of ideological enviro zealots, it’s a GREENDP haven of Groupthink.

  13. What? Virtue signallers actually drive these toys?
    Given the inherent problems of these hand produced idiocies, one would better be served by parking it prominently outside apartment and taking a cab.
    That the steering might fail,due to aluminium bolts holding the steering box on….
    Such genius engineering, who,besides every other industry engineer, knew that aluminium bolts sheer off easily?
    Obviously even the people who build these subsidy farming instruments,know they are not to be used as actual vehicles.
    But clearly those who buy them are too stupid to understand this fine point.
    Tesla needs to provide warning labels.
    This product unfit for “assumed” purpose?
    Steering optional?

  14. My personal, low cost, low difficulty, maintenance of my 1991 BMW 325i makes me GREENER than the mossiest of lychen-covered “Green Warrior” who drives a disposable (after battery cycle-death) EV. Suck it “greenies”. YOU are the disposable NATION. YOU who Tax drinking straws are the REAL PIGS of our society. And all your faux morality and virtue signaling will never erase the basic math of your idiocy. My “recycled” automobile is how you “SAVE the planet” … duh … you MO-rons

  15. While I’m very skeptical of e-cars, I was hoping the little mug had the ability to pull it all off.

  16. Have you heard Tesla cars on auto pilot can not detect stationary vehicles?
    neither can Volvo…
    don’t take my word for it, read this,
    [Tesla] manual does warn that the system is ill-equipped to handle this exact sort of situation: “Traffic-Aware Cruise Control cannot detect all objects and may not brake/decelerate for stationary vehicles, especially in situations when you are driving over 50 mph (80 km/h) and a vehicle you are following moves out of your driving path and a stationary vehicle or object is in front of you instead.”
    https://www.wired.com/story/tesla-autopilot-why-crash-radar/

  17. Yes, I will be driving my 2003 bmw 330i until death do us part, as it only has 39k, assuming that I can find a gas station. I really wanted an Acura, but they had none in blue. I have access to lots of transit options, so only use the car to transport dog, do groceries and errands and enjoy road trips. Unlike many of you, I am a very urban conservative (yes, there are some educated urban females who actually always voted conservative),
    Running for the hills appeals, but it might be too late in my life for that. Finding a normal gas station will be a big problem in the utopian green and coming future, as it is no longer cost-effective to operate a gas station in expensive and dense urban areas. Best to build a high rise expensive condo from the owner perspective.
    We need a famine alias disaster before our lefty rulers get it!

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