We’d still live in caves, but with really, really fancy curtains.
Oxford University has extended time for maths and computer science exams in a bid to help women get better grades.
Undergraduates were given 105 minutes to complete their papers, rather 90.
Um, er, equality of opportunity?? I think not.
Well, let me refine my comment.
This will help both male and female with the result being less stringent testing, and thus and overall reduction in the meaning of the accomplishment for the best and brightest.
Standards are standards. And some people can meet those, some can’t. There are differences between people.
Oxford University: “Women Not as Good at Math as Men”
No, it’s equality of outcome, the nexus of the entitlement and grievance state. It should be called the iron rule of shit hole countries.
Math is hard!
I think true sh*thole countries don’t even pretend they are about equality of outcome. The iron rule in such places is get your head raised as high above the sh*t as you can, by standing on someone else’s neck if necessary.
sooooo does this still mean the superioristic chauvinist exclusionary mysogynist males, get to leave 15 minutes earlier?
only time I ever bugged out early was, of all things, a friggin calculus exam.
not because it was hopeless but because the teacher’s style was so good, I ACED the exam 1/2 hour before the rest of them.
proof of that was when she reviewed the thing and had me explain how I derived the answers.
about 30 years later I googled her name and she called me, so I told her that her class was a singularly pivotal time in my life,
when I learned that if I did the work I would get the marks. which led to my decision to pursue a degree in IT.
she asked me why I waited so long, so I told her I had to wait for the internet to be invented and we had a giggle about that.
she had left teaching after the 2nd year and also went into IT with great success.
How does this help women? It says that women are too weak to compete – that they are inferior. This kind of stuff and title nine are steps back for society and women – not forward.
Maths are not in the Bible; Jesus never said “Solve for X.”
Kind of like IQ tests are biased in favour of Whitie. Weakness in argument being the impossibility of creating and exam in which Whitie doesn’t do better. Or Asians.
Time is not necessarily a factor in math exams when you haven’t learned the materials.
Boy, am I glad I’m no longer working in post-secondary education! I had to deal with hogwash and horsefeathers like this all the time, starting from almost the beginning when I started my teaching job nearly 30 years ago.
All throughout my time while I was at my institution, there was either someone who tried to pull stunts to get extra time or I’d receive an administrator’s directive ordering me to make such allowances.
Ah, but I was also told that I had to “deliver” learning so that it met or exceeded the “needs and expectations” of my “customers”. When I started teaching, I thought it was to impart knowledge and wisdom. Instead, I found myself the academic equivalent of a hash-slinger in some greasy spoon.
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edward teach quoting barbie says… Math is hard!”
“Ok, here’s what I think. If I came home from work
and my house was on fire… who would I want
running up that ladder to pull my kid to safety?”
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No doubt next week Oxford will give the LBGQ crowd an additional 15 minutes. When it gets to the part of the alphabet where the “f” is the time for exams will be doubled.
Alienating Young Men is Deeply Sad – Jordan Peterson – UK Interview 15 01 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ER1LOarlgg
The news report says that studies have shown that there’s very little difference in mathematical ability between men and women. That’s pretty much what I’ve read too except that more men are in the very highest levels of mathematical ability (and the lowest). The difference is in career choice. Women with math and science ability tend to gravitate to fields with more person to person interaction. Men go into technical, less social careers more often. The medical professions are a good example of these choices. Pediatrics compared to surgeons, if I remember correctly.
The 15 minutes of extra time seems to be a rather trivial change that is unnecessary. Explaining to female students that obsessively checking and rechecking their work was negatively affecting their marks may have helped them just as much.
Prof. Jordan B. Peterson’s discombobulated Cathy Newman (U.K. Channel 4) hostile attack style interview this week.
Seeing this, Brits, like other Westerners will regain confidence in our Civilization and rout the anti-male, anti-West. Cult. Marxists from the MSM, education and government.
Peterson’s *example of how easily facts, logic and scientific method does that will inspire.
Or the West will collapse under an accelerated surrender to totalitarianism.
This right before your eyes, with no passive bystanders, nor wilful blindness permitted in the Culture Wars.
*(winning does great things for our serotonin levels 🙂
Exactly. I have three daughters, two took math and sciences, one is a registered licensed midwife and the other is a home care nurse. The third one took music.
Someone should tell them about the movie Hidden Figures. https://g.co/kgs/VYwVqi
If we assume that they “grade on the curve” (that is, students are graded in comparison to each other), then I don’t see how this helps women unless we assume that they are inherently slower than men.
Yep. My daughters are doing just as well in math as my sons when they were the same age. The only difference I’ve noticed is that I sometimes have to explain things in a slightly different way.
How is a future employer to determine whether his female applicant is one of the smart one who actually did the exam on time or one of the “assisted” ones who needed extra time? Most employers would err on the side of caution and hire the male applicant.
Let me guess … they’ve been admitting a LOT of American students …
https://www.jamesgmartin.center/2017/03/common-core-damages-students-college-readiness/
… “Taught” common core math …
Yes, and our son at 38 and his wife at 37, with four children, went back to university in the Frazer Valley to become teachers. No extra time allowed for either one. They are both on the Dean’s list and both pulling in the 90s for marks. Son took 18 credits last summer.
Son is late to decide what to do with his life. Daughter-in-law also. He decided that maybe still driving truck at 65 years of age might not be a good long range plan.
They say it’s a different reaction to time pressure:
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// While experts suggest there are no gender differences in mathematical ability, Sarah Hart, maths professor at Birkbeck, University of London, said she had noticed that female students double-checked their answers before suggesting them in class.//
I know students who have this problem because, instead of memorizing formulae for exams, do the proofs on the spot.
Takes time, but these are not the weak students.
‘common core’. lol!!!
every time I hear that I think of ‘common nail’, the cheap and plentiful kind.
cheaper than the spiral type aka ‘ardox’ where I’m from.
the ones you literally need a crowbar to pull out, in other words *they do the job they’re supposed to*.
I’m glad I missed all the easy street fun of common core. computer science, well lots of ‘maths’ to deal with since code works in the form of thingamajigs called equations.
and aviator points out the typical ‘self limiting’ aspect of this revised approach to edjukashun. the phenomenon sometimes needs a lot of time to play out, but it will play out, if need be well into the point where there is nothing can be done to fix it. aka ‘hey diane, when the fcuk are you gonna get a job and move out?’
next !!
The ladies have all the answers the men do it just takes them longer to find the answers since they keep the answers in their purse and everyone who has waited behind a woman at the grocery checkout knows how hard it is to find anything in that purse.
Joe, you spelt suit case wrong:-)))
Oxford University: “from Here to Special Olympics”
Oxford University: “It’s About Fairness”
So Oxford graduates will get extended deadlines on projects throughout their careers? I should have gone there!
You people don’t understand. A benevolent creator made man and woman perfectly equal. Only those Darwinists who. think that your grandfather was an ape believe that the sexes might have “evolved” (Evilution!) differently!
Tim – in England, Oxford and Cambridge are the senior universities. To have a degree from either automatically confers an extra level of prestige. Though – with what we’re reading – that may change.
For the record, I always loved math – great fun. Calculus – not so much, though I think the problem was more with moi than the subject.
at 65 there are no long range plans, believe me.
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I have always suspected that, in general, men are smarter than women. This kinda proves it … no? Prove me wrong. Stop the affirmative action with women.
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I am 75 and I agree. Every night I go to bed wondering if I will wake up. So many friends and acquaintances have already died. As you age, you develop ‘ailments’ and they are not pleasant and you know it’s not going to get any better, just the opposite.
Old age is not for wimps.
Ditto here and I agree, “Old age is not for wimps”. But, it has been worth it. Everything I dreamed about accomplishing family wise and economically when I was in my teens I have succeeded in.
Life is good, and my wife of 54 years still smiles at me.
If women ran the world, Felonia von Pantsuits White house
curtains would look like the $12,000 Kirby vacuum cleaner
bag she wore on the campaign trail!
Personally I never understood the point of time limits on exams. They only test for how fast you can write. They don’t test for anything else as far as I can tell. Either you can do it or you can’t regardless of time offered. So what kind of best and brightest are you selecting for by giving students more time? Can someone explain that to me.