49 Replies to “#SKExit”

  2. It’s a silly idea unless you have some miraculous way of getting your products to tidewater.
    A better course of action would be to coordinate with AB to do as Quebec does and collect income tax driectly and then with hold transfers to the feds.

  3. Real easy Gord.
    Ship our wheat/lentils, etc or the rails and the road stops.
    The oil goes south anyway.
    Zero loss.
    What are you gonna do, go North?

  6. I think Brad Wall would make an excellent Prime Minister of Western Canada, or President of the Republic of Canada West.

  7. Ship on rails? And if the Ric decides to be like the US and play hardball then what? None of your neighbours relies on you.

  8. Actually … going North might not be such a bad idea. I am certain that Russia would be happy to help as they have “claimed” virtually ALL of the Arctic as theirs. And they lead the world with ice breaker technology and fleets. And … since the Arctic is melting and ice is disappearing … shipping will be a snap. Polar shipping might end up being the most desired pathway on the planet … then Sask. could charge the other provinces to use their services.

  10. I like it. Actually an idea was floated back in 2014…build railway or twin big inch (42″+) lines to Valdez…right from Ft Mac…why this has never been explored remains a mystery to me..although the big 4 kissing Notleys ASS may have something to do with it.
    The Natives loved the idea as did Alaska. Going North has always made sense to me…and muskeg is nothing we haven’t dealt with in the past. Gotta do something..by someone with some damned VISION.
    We are stymied by Communists/Eco-NAZI’S in the West – Communists/Eco-NAZI’s IN Edmonton – Whimpering Globalists/Eco-NAZI’s in Ottawa and pure money grubbing (_i_)holes in Quebec. Seems to me that the only viable direction is to go North…and while we are doing that, we (Sask-Ab), may wish to seriously consider cessation from this disgusting Cesspool of Progressive Imbeciles….Let the Bastards Freeze in the Dark

  11. I don’t understand what you’re saying Gord.
    SK doesn’t have tidewater now. Everything is shipped on rail across Canada.
    Playing hardball would be TRoC’s right. Goods and services would just flow south from Saskatchewan.
    And you’re quite wrong about dependencies. Saskatchewan alone is almost 50% of the arable land in Canada. We don’t sell our wheat to Canada, you go without a touch more than half of your daily bread and most of your beer. That’s just wheat and barley.
    I’m not saying you couldn’t buy stuff on the world market, of course, but then we can sell it out there too via Port of Seattle or any other American port. Rail rates are similar and the US network is used every year now anyway.
    Saskatchewan is 25% of the beef in Canada, similar numbers with pork, poultry, lamb.
    No, we’d be fine, thank you.

  12. It’s been time for 150 years. Should have never made the mistake of joining Ontario in the first place.

  13. This is a simple one, Saskatchewan merges with North Dakota and Alberta with Montana. All of our historical issues are solved in this one move.

  16. “No, we’d be fine, thank you.”
    No, you wouldn’t, or you’d have done it already. Q.E.D.
    Or put another way, if Saskatchewan were to secede, everything in SK that isn’t uranium, wheat, barley, beef, pork, poultry or lamb would be much more expensive. That, plus the immediate emigration of, say, 65% of your best and brightest.

  17. Saskatchewan has a number of problems that would only accelerate if it tried to secede. One of the big ones is for every goods producing job the province has close to 3 service producing jobs.
    There are more people employed in health care and social assistance than in mining, agriculture and forestry combined.
    But the biggest problem with Saskatchewan is the fact that growth will only come from its resource sector and this is at a time where resources are no longer valued by the rest of Canada.
    Sorry Lance. We’re stuck with you.

  18. Canada desperately needs to be broken up and either absorbed by the USA or formed into a Representative Republic that directly elects it’s own leaders and confers by God’s decree absolute sovereignty to it’s citizens.

  19. I don’t think Sask & Ab together could make it because we are landlocked. We need access to the sea. That means BC (unlikely) or Manitoba (possible). A year-round transportation corridor to Churchill that includes highway, rail, pipeline and electricity starting from The Pas would solve the access issue.

  20. Or maybe negotiate with New York, New Hampshire, Vermont and Maine to get the pipeline from Ontario to New Brunswick. Bypass Quebec completely.

  21. And almost 50% of potash reserves, and at the moment, about 1/3 of production. All exported from the west on rails.
    You like to eat right?

  22. I generally support secession, but The Republic of Saskatchewan would suck. All the pipelines in the world would not change its terrible political dynamic. Further, this temper tantrum over EE is stupid like I said earlier EE didn’t make sense anymore.
    The dumbest idea is merging with the US. Canada, for all its problems, doesn’t have a leader with mental illness (just vapidness) who will likely be succeeded by a hard-left authoritarian. Canada also has a smaller welfare state and more economic freedom.

  23. Sask is part of the canadian confederation. If it left there is no guarantee that freight would be allowed to move freely across canada – east or west – if it left. Heck look at pipelines already (not to mention hydro power) And the US has made things difficult for SK and other provinces in the past.

  25. -“No, we’d be fine, thank you.”
    -No, you wouldn’t, or you’d have done it already. Q.E.D.
    -Or put another way, if Saskatchewan were to secede, everything in SK that isn’t uranium, wheat, barley, beef, pork, poultry or lamb would be
    -much more expensive. That, plus the immediate emigration of, say, 65% of your best and brightest.
    If SK seceded, I would move there in a heartbeat. Living amongst people who look,talk,act,think,pray,eat the same way(or a reasonable facsimile thereof) for the rest of my life?
    Who cares if i’m poor.

  26. It’s roughly 1800 miles cross country from Fort Mac to Valdez, most of it accessible via existing roads. Skirts BC completely. Fort Mac to Gateway/Rupert is 1225+/-. The route to Valdez is closer to Tokyo by 510 sea miles, or 34 hours shorter by tanker @ 15 knots/hr. What’s the day cost for a 250,000 dwt tanker?
    It is doable, you just have to think BIG, or not be “wet” as the Brits are wont to say.
    captcha: mile calle

  27. Sask & Alberta need to EACH join America as separate States… They would each have 2 Senators (equal to all other States) and that helps in equalizing POWER when you don’t have a large population…The USA may welcome more States which would reduce the NY,CA large (dependent on welfare) population…
    Just saying,

  28. Without a stable currency you cannot separate. You cannot protect the collected wealth of individuals and businesses and retain the confidence of the banking and capital sector.
    An independent western Canadian currency is not deep and broad enough to be respectable internationally. Even Canadian currency is pretty weak internationally.
    As western Canadian goods are sold in US dollars, the only way out is to adopt US currency as our own.
    The US wont want to interfere in Canadian affairs but would be willing to cautiously prop up a Republic of western Canada for 10 years before conversion to statehood. Just like Texas. Just like California.
    Without the west, eastern Canada will die as Ontario and Quebec and maritime debts cannot be supported. The Canadian dollar will implode as will the ROC. The maritimes will adopt for statehood and eventually Ontario and Quebec. There is no way else to survive.
    This is inevitable. If not now then 100 years from now or 200 years from now but Canada will devolve and join the US. Just a matter of time.

  29. My thoughts on this, living in Alberta: blockade BC & boycott anything built or produced in central/eastern Canaduh. No cooperation on any facet of Confederation. We feed the world. Intermodal goes through Seattle/Tacoma, or Valdez as stated above. Grain to east world markets through Churchill, western markets Seattle/Tacoma or Valdez as stated above. Same for anything else coming in. We buy vehicles made in the USA & shipped across Montana/ND borders…really not much changes on N-S trade. Far East comes in via Seattle/Tacoma or Valdez.
    Open economic warfare on eastern central farm products. No milk boards, egg boards beef, chicken or pork. We out produce them & the fuel to do so sits right here. Fill up the tractor. We produce all the ferilizer we’ll ever need, we have coal for a thousand years, we are (Sask) the #1 producer of Uranium in the world, with 30% of known reserves.
    WTF are we doing still “connected” to that boat anchor Ontario/Quebec?
    Health care an issue for you? We paid the bills for Canadauh for 20 years with western Canadian crude/nat gas & coal. F$#@’em!!!

  32. I’m all for a wexit. Hell I’ll lead it. Take nwt Yukon Alberta sask be and man with us…cozy up with USA ….purge the lefties from BBC …and one step at a time set up our own country

  33. “The US wont want to interfere in Canadian affairs…”
    You just came in on a turnip truck, right? The USA, through Tides et al & in conjunction with Canadian & US financed “charities” like the Suzuki Foundation, Rockafellers & a host of other eco-fascist organizations have been interfering openly for the last 150 years, more so the last 30 years.
    Our political class sold this country out, with their help. What do you think should be done about that? Hmmmmm? They are busy doing their level best to turn this place into Venezuela North, or an eco theme park. You got kids?

  35. They still buy & use oil from the very people who drove the price down & thousands out of work in western Canada, plus world wide. We still pay Equalization to these commies.
    Funny eh? Not long ago eastern central mayors & premiers were busting down doors out here, to “do business” with western provinces when the boom was on. We bought a lot of trucks built down there. A lot of other stuff, too.
    Don’t buy any more. I buy western produced food & none from BC. F%$@U Loblaws. Anything else I need, I’ll buy online & cheaper, too from US sources, or direct from the foreign producer. You’d be surprised at what can be purchased & shipped from overseas via online.

  36. I’m fine with that. Or a decade long transition between whereby BC would think about it. Separate states though…

  37. Stop with the silly name calling. Not sure you really know much about the power of money and politics so listen and learn.
    Tides and other “charities” are not US government supported. They are supported by Russia and the Arab states and yes by US socialists that are also anti-Trump. The Canadian oil industry has significant US ownership. Even Canadian “owned” oil companies have significant US equity ownership and US banks hold large amounts of debt on these companies. They are not about to devalue their investment. Not for a second. Stated US foreign policy will not be to appear to interfere. They will definitely protect their economic interests in terms of maintaining oil investment capital and infrastructure. What is good for the US is good for Alberta. The US will “allow” an independent western Canada to join the US with full statehood after a time. Just like Texas, California, Hawaii and Alaska.
    This is the way they have always operated. It is successful and it is not about to change. Last thing the US wants is an unpredictable “free agent” operating in North America playing with US titled assets.

  38. Maybe Saskatchewan should just turn into one big f—ing toll gate. If central Canada wants lumber and crap from China to move from B.C. then pay a toll for rolling it through Saskatchewan.

  40. Tides and other “charities” are not US government supported. You seem quite confident of that. You are US Interests Inc., I take it?
    Directly, probably not. It wouldn’t look good if they were so open about it. The DNC helped get this LPOC elected, that’s a fact, so don’t tell me that the US government isn’t involved in our economic or political affairs & in many ways we aren’t even aware of. Still, they might be getting antsy with how the LPOC & local NDP .gov are interfering in the viability of their “US interests” up here, as you say.
    I’m fully aware that the US would have to step in to “manage” this place, or parts of it should the SHTF. Frankly, I’d prefer that they step in sooner rather than later, if that’s The Plan. 1970 would have been opportune, just before the Saudis went on the rampage. I don’t like my retirement prospects interfered with by a bunch of US or CDN commies at any level of .gov. My money is pretty mobile. If you don’t think that any of the pipeline issues in this country aren’t affecting US interests, with EE cancelled, or Gateway, or XL, or Trans Mountain by local .gov, supported by US & Canadian financed Foundations, then tell me what’s so bad about forcing the issue. US & foreign corps are pulling in their horns up here. They seem worried & I suspect Fat Tony in New York is, too.
    You got kids? They planning on living & working in Canada successfully? At what? Success is taxed away in this country & we don’t do Big….anything.

  43. It’s bad enough that Spud gave a lame excuse for what happened, even though everyone knows he and his gang were behind it. But Corderre clearly gave the game away with his gloating, doing so in a condescending and insulting manner.
    Nope. It’s time for western Canada to pack up and go on its own.

  44. “everyone knows he and his gang were behind it”
    But he wasn’t. EE didn’t make sense. The costs didn’t add up. Christ what a retarded temper tantrum this is all adding up to.
    And put the kibosh to the stupid idea of joining the US. That is not an improvement.

  45. It’s time to leave Canada! Dennis Coderre and Justin have stabbed Western Canada in the back! Build a huge oil refinery near Lloydminster ! Build our own pipelines to Montana and North Dakota!
    Use the port of Churchill for our ocean access ! Rail lines need fixing as Liberals under Trudeau have said they wouldn’t help Manitoba with them! The refinery, pipelines to the USA and rail lines paid in part with our Equalization payments to the East!
    Free The West State will include Manitoba,Saskatchewan,and Alberta! Any goods from the East and British Columbia will have substantial trade tariffs put on them! especially those coming from Montreal!
    Mr. Brad Wall will be asked to be the first Prime Minster! AND OUR NATIONAL ANTHEM WILL BE LEARNING TO FLY BY TOM PETTY!
    We will take the Canadian Dollar with us because The WEST have work the hardest!|We’ll leave the East the Supreme Court!

  46. Here’s how it works:
    Mr. Trump, we’ve got some things for you, Oil, gas, potash, uranium, grain, beef, etc, etc. You can buy it all. We will only buy things from you.
    We are not the 51st state but would have free trade and easy customs.
    You could build a military base in our north if you wish.
    We tax the shit out of any canadian goods crossing sask, for environmental reasons.
    All our current debt to outside holders remains in CAD, our internal currency is bitcoin (or some other crypto). Cryptos will become the dominant form of currency in the next decade and will increase as CAD decreases.
    There would be some market resistance in US but as most of our resources are ‘world priced’ it would not be as controversial as say lumber. Beef is somewhat an exception but not too difficult to overcome.
    The US would not monopolise sales to us any more than already exists in the US, i.e. not at all – it is a competitive market after all. So fear of (insert name here) jacking up prices just to rip off sask are not real. Most of our crap is made in china anyways, except really high tech stuff which is NOT canadian made. Frankly speaking, other than forced dairy products from quebec what the hell do we want with canadian goods???
    For those with Trump derangement syndrome, all I can say is Trudeau or Trump – who’s gonna love you more? And by love, I mean F&CK.

  48. the biggest problem with Sask has been decades of socialism, and the same applies to all of Canada.

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