Hopefully, Trump has the brains I think he does and will manipulate China and Russia into solving the problem for us.
I also hope he is astute enough to use the N. Korea situation to again highlight exactly how utterly useless and counter-productive the UN has become to western interests. It’s time we walk away from this joke and form a new coalition where ONLY honest democracies are welcome. Sure, we would still be battling entrenched globalist, Islam-loving liberals, but you have to start somewhere.
WWIII here we come.
OT here, but Larry Johnson (ex-CIA) on the John Batchelor Show last night had some insight into Trump’s weekend accusations. His theory? Brit’s version of the NSA tapped Trump, provided info to JugEars (or something to that affect). 9 minute podcast lays it all out. May want to post Kate.
That would make sense. Canada and the US have a long history of spying on each other’s citizens and then sharing the info to get around restrictions on spying on their own.
Which “honest democracies” would those be? The entire western hemisphere has succumbed to Frankfurt School identity politics.
Maybe, say a decade after we get Trump equivalents in power in Germany, France, England, etc, maybe then there will be an “honest democracy” or two.
A few cruise missiles into Kimmy’s main residence should smarten him up a little, as Reagan proved very effective with Gaddafi.
Trump will first force the Chinese in taking care of North Korea otherwise the US will and South Korea and Japan will foot the bill…A new era of cold war will follow, this time between China and the US. This is why Trump wants to revamp the Military and nuke arsenal. Actual war is unlikely because, economically, they both need each other but China even more. The US still has the upper hand economically and Militarily.
Another “problem” soon needing solving is Iran. Cue in Russia on this one. Trump will soon meet with Putin for just that.
Yeah, that was something Johnson mentioned. Also said Brit’s chief of their NSA agency was suddenly/inexplicably canned 3 days after Trump inaugurated (probably based on a request to May from DJT). Very interesting.
Nice future history, Terry.
Here’s another.
1. The Norks decide to annex South Korea..
2. NATO and other “friendlies” get into a proxy war with China on Korea.
3. As the war escalates, Russia decides it’s a good time to annex the Balkan states. NATO powers divert resources to the Russian front, and now there are two major theaters of war.
4. With the world powers distracted, Turkey re-ignites the caliphate by seizing much of the ME and North Africa.
5. Israel pre-emptivly nukes most of Iran’s nuclear sites.
6. With European security forces busy on the Russian and Korean front, the Muslims make a play for power in Europe, and with the local governments supporting the Muslims, Europe devolves into civil war.
7. Small tactical nukes get used in Europe, Russia and Korea.
8. After the European people subdue the Muslims and their traitorous lefty governments, new governments are instituted in Europe.
9. The war goes on for another decade or so, slowly petering out, and the Globe comes out of WW3 with new borders drawn along lines of military strength.
10. The long nightmare that started in 1918 ends, around 2050, and the survivors celebrate peace…for about a century, until the next war.
Thus spake Zarathustra.
I still believe it should be “Roan-ry,” to preserve the proper pronunciation from the song.
His name should probably be “Ca-RIG-yoo-ra!”
I still believe it should be “Roan-ry,” to preserve the proper pronunciation from the song in the movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEaKX9YYHiQ
In keeping with his murderous history, his name should probably be “Ca-RIG-yoo-ra!”
An optimist, I gather. Here are a couple of points that occur to me just on cursory examination of your prognostication. “Small, tactical nukes”: the chances that any nation, once it has used any nuclear device in war, will stop at that point, seem slim. It will escalate and nuclear winter and all the rest of it would seem highly probable. Additionally, no nation, if facing an existential threat – facing its own destruction – would fail to use all the weapons at its disposal. This seems like a trivial observation, but when we’re dealing with nuclear armed states ….
Additionally, I would question the likelihood of any civil war in Europe – certainly not in heavily Islamicized nations such as Sweden, France and Belgium – ending in a victory for the non-Muslim side. These countries (and arguably, the UK and Germany too) are ripe for the taking at the hands of the religion of peace enthusiasts.
Yeah, right.
Maybe he’s delusional enough to try it, but a war between North Korea and the United States – that is, a war where U.S. leadership no longer feels constrained against using the full force of its arsenal to quickly put them down – only ends one way.
Honestly, if they were stupid enough to try it, I can’t see even China intervening to help them. NK has had its uses to China as an easily manipulated satellite, but I would imagine they’re becoming quite a liability.
That said, people and nations are unpredictable and generally crazy, so who knows?
Just goes to show how stupid it is to try to predict the future. Anyone can make a plausible scenario.
As far as “tactical nuke use” = “strategic nuke use”, that’s another lie foisted on us by Greenpeace. Look up the Davey Crockett system. Tactical nukes play an entirely different role than strategic nukes. Wars are fought expediently. In the scenario I mentioned, there are no “Axis and Allies”, rather there are several forces and forms of aggressors involved.
To arbitrarily say that if one or more groups use a small tactical nuke, that some group will go on a nation-destroying strategic nuke spree is absurd, and the only players capable of doing so in my scenario are the Europeans and the Russians. I don’t see the Europeans or the Russians doing that over the Baltic states, do you?
Also, if Europe goes into a deep civil war, tactical nukes can easily fall into non-state players hands, strategic nukes, not so much. MAD doesn’t apply to tactical nukes like it does to strategic nukes.
Also, the idea that we can “nuke ourselves back to the stone age” in a nuclear exchange is pure fakery.
As far as you “predicting” that there’s no going back for Sweden, etc, well, almost all of Spain was Islamic before the crusades, and guess what? It went back to Christianity.
When was the last time the US leadership effectively put down the enemy in a proxy war?
China, like the old USSR, is a nuclear superpower, and US military action in NK will most likely provoke a response from China.
If you pull the tail of the dragon, he will roast you with fire and eat you.
When the Chinese decide that they’ve had enough of Kim Jong Un, he will be deposed. Until that time the dangerous chess game will continue. Perhaps an opportunity for a deal. U.S. remove anti-missile defense in S. Korea, Chinese remove Kim Jong Un. Who knows really. It is clear that something is going on in N. Korea. Otherwise Lil’ Kim wouldn’t be killing off the senior military cadre…. or his possible successor in Malaysia.
North Korean diplomat Thae Yong-Ho defected and reported this: that North Korea will collapse in five years and reunite with its southern neighbour.
If accurate, China is going to be super-pi$$ed that its vassal state and buffer will reunite with its pro-American cousin to the south.
And, really – had this been a war between North and South Korea, there would be ONE Korea today. This is between the US and China.
The US should encourage a pan-Asian alliance, for Japan et al to nuclearise and openly discuss plans for a reunited Korea.
Stop getting China and Russia – which helped separate the north from the south – to “fix” this problem. Keep China and Russia far away from the Koreas. They’ve done enough damage.
Actually, China and Russia are closer to Korea than the USA.
We in the west should be concentrating on annexing the resources of Africa, instead of wasting blood and treasure in the far east.
What treasure?
You clearly don’t know or care about the history of the Koreas. If you did, you wouldn’t toss North Korea to the tender mercies of China or Russia.
Go back to the Huffington Post.
Canadians died in the Korean war, dingbat.
And no, I don’t care about the Koreans, their job is to look after themselves, ’cause it sure as hell ain’t our job.
But it’s alright to take African wealth?
“We in the west should be concentrating on annexing the resources of Africa, instead of wasting blood and treasure in the far east.”
You can’t even be consistent in your idiocy.
You didn’t read my posts and you don’t how the Koreans honour the 516 Canadian dead (I do – I’ve seen the memorial).
Again, go back to the Huffington Post.
The Americans should inform Kim Basketball-jones that Michael Jordan is living on one of the US bases, but not tell him which one.
Hopefully, Trump has the brains I think he does and will manipulate China and Russia into solving the problem for us.
I also hope he is astute enough to use the N. Korea situation to again highlight exactly how utterly useless and counter-productive the UN has become to western interests. It’s time we walk away from this joke and form a new coalition where ONLY honest democracies are welcome. Sure, we would still be battling entrenched globalist, Islam-loving liberals, but you have to start somewhere.
WWIII here we come.
OT here, but Larry Johnson (ex-CIA) on the John Batchelor Show last night had some insight into Trump’s weekend accusations. His theory? Brit’s version of the NSA tapped Trump, provided info to JugEars (or something to that affect). 9 minute podcast lays it all out. May want to post Kate.
That would make sense. Canada and the US have a long history of spying on each other’s citizens and then sharing the info to get around restrictions on spying on their own.
Which “honest democracies” would those be? The entire western hemisphere has succumbed to Frankfurt School identity politics.
Maybe, say a decade after we get Trump equivalents in power in Germany, France, England, etc, maybe then there will be an “honest democracy” or two.
A few cruise missiles into Kimmy’s main residence should smarten him up a little, as Reagan proved very effective with Gaddafi.
Trump will first force the Chinese in taking care of North Korea otherwise the US will and South Korea and Japan will foot the bill…A new era of cold war will follow, this time between China and the US. This is why Trump wants to revamp the Military and nuke arsenal. Actual war is unlikely because, economically, they both need each other but China even more. The US still has the upper hand economically and Militarily.
Another “problem” soon needing solving is Iran. Cue in Russia on this one. Trump will soon meet with Putin for just that.
Yeah, that was something Johnson mentioned. Also said Brit’s chief of their NSA agency was suddenly/inexplicably canned 3 days after Trump inaugurated (probably based on a request to May from DJT). Very interesting.
Nice future history, Terry.
Here’s another.
1. The Norks decide to annex South Korea..
2. NATO and other “friendlies” get into a proxy war with China on Korea.
3. As the war escalates, Russia decides it’s a good time to annex the Balkan states. NATO powers divert resources to the Russian front, and now there are two major theaters of war.
4. With the world powers distracted, Turkey re-ignites the caliphate by seizing much of the ME and North Africa.
5. Israel pre-emptivly nukes most of Iran’s nuclear sites.
6. With European security forces busy on the Russian and Korean front, the Muslims make a play for power in Europe, and with the local governments supporting the Muslims, Europe devolves into civil war.
7. Small tactical nukes get used in Europe, Russia and Korea.
8. After the European people subdue the Muslims and their traitorous lefty governments, new governments are instituted in Europe.
9. The war goes on for another decade or so, slowly petering out, and the Globe comes out of WW3 with new borders drawn along lines of military strength.
10. The long nightmare that started in 1918 ends, around 2050, and the survivors celebrate peace…for about a century, until the next war.
Thus spake Zarathustra.
I still believe it should be “Roan-ry,” to preserve the proper pronunciation from the song.
His name should probably be “Ca-RIG-yoo-ra!”
I still believe it should be “Roan-ry,” to preserve the proper pronunciation from the song in the movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEaKX9YYHiQ
In keeping with his murderous history, his name should probably be “Ca-RIG-yoo-ra!”
An optimist, I gather. Here are a couple of points that occur to me just on cursory examination of your prognostication. “Small, tactical nukes”: the chances that any nation, once it has used any nuclear device in war, will stop at that point, seem slim. It will escalate and nuclear winter and all the rest of it would seem highly probable. Additionally, no nation, if facing an existential threat – facing its own destruction – would fail to use all the weapons at its disposal. This seems like a trivial observation, but when we’re dealing with nuclear armed states ….
Additionally, I would question the likelihood of any civil war in Europe – certainly not in heavily Islamicized nations such as Sweden, France and Belgium – ending in a victory for the non-Muslim side. These countries (and arguably, the UK and Germany too) are ripe for the taking at the hands of the religion of peace enthusiasts.
Yeah, right.
Maybe he’s delusional enough to try it, but a war between North Korea and the United States – that is, a war where U.S. leadership no longer feels constrained against using the full force of its arsenal to quickly put them down – only ends one way.
Honestly, if they were stupid enough to try it, I can’t see even China intervening to help them. NK has had its uses to China as an easily manipulated satellite, but I would imagine they’re becoming quite a liability.
That said, people and nations are unpredictable and generally crazy, so who knows?
Just goes to show how stupid it is to try to predict the future. Anyone can make a plausible scenario.
As far as “tactical nuke use” = “strategic nuke use”, that’s another lie foisted on us by Greenpeace. Look up the Davey Crockett system. Tactical nukes play an entirely different role than strategic nukes. Wars are fought expediently. In the scenario I mentioned, there are no “Axis and Allies”, rather there are several forces and forms of aggressors involved.
To arbitrarily say that if one or more groups use a small tactical nuke, that some group will go on a nation-destroying strategic nuke spree is absurd, and the only players capable of doing so in my scenario are the Europeans and the Russians. I don’t see the Europeans or the Russians doing that over the Baltic states, do you?
Also, if Europe goes into a deep civil war, tactical nukes can easily fall into non-state players hands, strategic nukes, not so much. MAD doesn’t apply to tactical nukes like it does to strategic nukes.
Also, the idea that we can “nuke ourselves back to the stone age” in a nuclear exchange is pure fakery.
As far as you “predicting” that there’s no going back for Sweden, etc, well, almost all of Spain was Islamic before the crusades, and guess what? It went back to Christianity.
When was the last time the US leadership effectively put down the enemy in a proxy war?
China, like the old USSR, is a nuclear superpower, and US military action in NK will most likely provoke a response from China.
If you pull the tail of the dragon, he will roast you with fire and eat you.
When the Chinese decide that they’ve had enough of Kim Jong Un, he will be deposed. Until that time the dangerous chess game will continue. Perhaps an opportunity for a deal. U.S. remove anti-missile defense in S. Korea, Chinese remove Kim Jong Un. Who knows really. It is clear that something is going on in N. Korea. Otherwise Lil’ Kim wouldn’t be killing off the senior military cadre…. or his possible successor in Malaysia.
North Korean diplomat Thae Yong-Ho defected and reported this: that North Korea will collapse in five years and reunite with its southern neighbour.
If accurate, China is going to be super-pi$$ed that its vassal state and buffer will reunite with its pro-American cousin to the south.
And, really – had this been a war between North and South Korea, there would be ONE Korea today. This is between the US and China.
The US should encourage a pan-Asian alliance, for Japan et al to nuclearise and openly discuss plans for a reunited Korea.
Stop getting China and Russia – which helped separate the north from the south – to “fix” this problem. Keep China and Russia far away from the Koreas. They’ve done enough damage.
Actually, China and Russia are closer to Korea than the USA.
We in the west should be concentrating on annexing the resources of Africa, instead of wasting blood and treasure in the far east.
What treasure?
You clearly don’t know or care about the history of the Koreas. If you did, you wouldn’t toss North Korea to the tender mercies of China or Russia.
Go back to the Huffington Post.
Canadians died in the Korean war, dingbat.
And no, I don’t care about the Koreans, their job is to look after themselves, ’cause it sure as hell ain’t our job.
But it’s alright to take African wealth?
“We in the west should be concentrating on annexing the resources of Africa, instead of wasting blood and treasure in the far east.”
You can’t even be consistent in your idiocy.
You didn’t read my posts and you don’t how the Koreans honour the 516 Canadian dead (I do – I’ve seen the memorial).
Again, go back to the Huffington Post.
The Americans should inform Kim Basketball-jones that Michael Jordan is living on one of the US bases, but not tell him which one.