Open thread.
After today’s events, it should be good.
As an aside, where I previously was against Trump, Romney’s declaration of war has shifted my viewpoint…in favour of Trump.
Post Debate Update:….and back off the Trump train, but not where I was before.
Contrary to the political elitist hucksters in Washington talking points, they cannot stand change. Now they will shoot themselves in the foot and screw up any chance of conservatives to get elected. The truly sad part is that will lead the way for a lying, cheating, power hungry biatch to rule once was the most powerful country in the world and turn it into a laughing stock.
well lance, I also was against Trump, until I realized he could take down the political establishment. I’m still not really a Trump fan, I think the guys a goof, but I’d like to see the trough feeders get their just due.
some of us in here have been preaching against established politicians, and the ignorance of the electorate for a few years.
Not a fan of Romney but I can’t disagree with anything he said.
Trump is a circus act and a crappy businessman.
If he had invested his inheritance in S&P index in 1975 he would worth 12 billion today.
He is only worth 2-4 billion.
This election is lost to the Republicans and the only hope to contain the damage and try again in 2020.
Welcome to the Dark Side, Lance. We have cookies.
Welcome aboard Lance. The more established politicians come out against Trump the more I feel America needs him.
“Gentlemen, 30 seconds for your closing remarks”
Donald Trump “Thank you for inviting us here to reiterate our positions yet once again. I think the American people fully understand by now where each candidate stands on the various issues. Any further debates hereafter are solely to the benefit of the television networks and their corporate sponsors and advertisers.
Therefore, I have decided that I will not participate in any further debates until after I am the Presidential nominee. I will then be happy to debate Grandma Clinton whenever she wishes, in the interests of Making America Great Again.”
If you believe the current politicians on both sides are self serving and corrupt as I do, then Trump is the only option. Trump may not work out, but without him, the corruption, ineffectiveness, deceit and policies that only serve the elites will simply continue.
i can’t stand Cruz’s canned earnestness.
he sounds like a parody of himself…
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And Rubio Tuesday is whiny little yap dog of the establishment…
booo.
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Trumpzilla 2016!
why is kasich there? he’s a loser too.
“i can get the cross-over vote”
he’d be lucky to get the cross dresser vote if some posted pictures online of him in his wife’s dress…
Party of Stoopeed
Political suicide for the GOP, acting as they are.
Even considering a brokered convention, where they anoint their establishment choice, guarantees Hitlery’s win.
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Cruz is still my guy but he’s probably unelectable. I’ll support Trump in a heartbeat for sure.
Not watching the debate. Can’t stand the childish bickering. Plus I hate the media. Even Fox nowadays.
If Romney is so smart, why did he back off from Obama and let him win.
He had binders full of women, after all.
Romney, two time loser
You say it well.
Lance, almost all here that support Trump are aware of his character and most of his shortcomings, but the weasel Romney coming out today was pathetic to say the least. I listened to his rant scripted by the Republican establishment and wanted to throw up. After what Harry Reid did to Romney with tax returns, Romney had the nerve to go after Trump on his tax returns.
Sid, yes there has been plenty of childish bickering.
So you agree with Romney that Trump is a bad businessman “Billionaire”…Man, here I am trying to be good in business. I got it all wrong and Romney is not as bad a businessman as Trump either ’cause like me, he’s much poorer.
Romney requested Trump to endorse him before and he is not running, so why does Mitt suddenly needs to tell a major number of Americans that they are suckers.
What about Hillary, Mitt? Aren’t you after all, a Republican?
Don’t you see that, timg?
This was not Mitt Romney’s past style. Romney never was that visceral, not even close towards Obama in 2012…Obama, like a fix soccer game was designated to win it almost seems now.
At least Lance has finally seen the light; or at least hope that Trump will not succumb to the very big and corrupt machine he is about to face. I’m actually worried for Trump/US right now. These Globalist thieves in Washington (Both DEM and GOP are one and the same cabal) are truly panicking and it could get real ugly. If he does make it all the way though, I hope that Trump will do at least 2 things:
– Denounce and expose the Climate Change mega scam…At least force the issue so the media cracks and force a worldwide debate. The world’s ‘silent majority’ are sick and revolted this lie is still going on.
– Stop the flood of Muslims…At this time in our history it is clear that Islam cannot coexist with Western values. You just can’t trust them. Period…unless we want a police state down the road like France right now. It is up to the Muslim world to show us differently. Their actions and energy stems on stifling our worries instead of denouncing their religion of intolerance and violence. Their silence is absolutely deafening.
Trump is THE only (highly-flawed) vehicle of CHANGE. The Republican base has tried to effect change through traditional channels and candidates. We were patient, and we played nice. The GOPe made a mockery of those efforts. Mssr. Trump now speaks with the RAGE we are feeling in our hearts. So if all you GOPe’s are “offended” at the “tone” of Trumps comments … you ain’t heard nothing yet. The GOPe is going to get STOMPED on …just like we have been treated. They kicked us in the nads … over and over … and we’re not gonna take it anymore. They are going DOWN ! Go Trump !
I still remember Romney sucking up to Obama during the one debate that was held on Obama’s wedding anniversary,”I’m sure the President would rather be at home with his wife on their anniversary than spending it here debating me”, to a round of nice friendly chuckles.
You don’t humanize the opposition,Mitt. For that and many other reasons you got your ass kicked and the world got FOUR more years of Obama.
If Mitt Romney has his way, we’ll be stuck with 4 to 8 more years of Democrats in the WH. By that time, China should be the preeminent power on the planet, and I shudder to think of the unemployment rate in the U.S.
Not to even mention the world situation.
The ridiculous intervention of the Fox “moderators” makes one pine for Candy Crowley.
I hope the Trump supporters realize that Trump is much like Obama: he’s a narcissist and doesn’t have much use for the U.S. Constitution. He would like to change libel laws so that he could quiet his critics in court. And he has sound bites, rather than principles, on national defense, taxes, and virtually every other issue. Above all, he loves to make deals through the strength of his will. Anyone want the reincarnation of Lyndon Johnson? Where did all his great ideas take the nation?
Never forget the real enemy here: http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/03/obamanism_is_the_real_enemy.html
America elects a president of limited powers, not an autocrat. Since everything Trump says indicates he Will sacrifice principal to get deals, how is he the best change agent among the candidates? How can anyone be sure he won’t trade away fundamental Constitutional rights for temporary political victories? We know in the past he’s given to the most radical liberal causes around, because he doesn’t care about ideology only getting a particular end.
“Above all, he loves to make deals through the strength of his will.”
I agree. It’s better to make deals through the weakness of the will.
“How can anyone be sure he won’t trade away fundamental Constitutional rights for temporary political victories?”
Like everyone else will for sure? I’ll take a maybe.
Best Election in my life.
Trump is a showman, a truly great showman.
The clamouring media and the Guild Of Parasites are all driving Trumps popularity.
See Lance, even you are sickened by their corruption.
The GOP played the Taxed Enough Already people for fools.
If Trump cannot negotiate some reduction in the Kleptocracy, then it will come down to the “Blood of the patriots”, which is not a fools fantasy but a means built right into the USA constitution.
No one in their right mind wants to go there, however that is where we are trending.
Our governments are Kleptocracies.
The prevailing wisdom on both side of the border is take from the many by force of government, reward the few.
Thats what government power is for.
This works fine at tolerable levels of theft.
At current national debt and deficit we are way beyond tolerable..
And if anyone is confused, it is all one well established party.
Democrat,Republican,Liberal,Progressive Con, Media and academia.
A lovely bunch of useless parasites.
Ruthlessly attached to our veins.
“Democrat,Republican,Liberal,Progressive Con, Media and academia.
A lovely bunch of useless parasites.
Ruthlessly attached to our veins.”
You forgot the NDP.
The idiot politicians on stage with Trump keep listing the problems with the country faces while being willfully oblivious to the fact that *they* created the problems!!
Go Trump!! The Republicans can rot and Rubio is a useless hired henchman.
Hear hear Kenji! Exactly right.
True but they hardly rate, being genuine bottom feeders and essentially progressive Libtards, as subgroup of Liberals.
60% of canadians voted; “Please rob us some more”
40% ” voted please slow down robbing us.”
near 0 voted Enough Already, kill the parasites.
Parasitic overload has collapsed more than one civilization.
Trump may make deals, but I would expect he would make deals that he thinks are in the best interests of the American people. He would not be making deals for personal gain, which is a BIG part of the problem at the moment. I do not think you want someone at the helm who is totally inflexible.
You have ONE GUY, obviously kicking everyone elses ass.
HIS message is resonating. The rest of the pack is …… pathetic. They should be ashamed.
But they will learn……
One of Romney’s sons said that, in the end, Mitt didn’t really want the job. (In my view, Romney didn’t have the guts to go for the jugular, a trait that Trump has, in spades.)
Found the quote:
Mitt Romney Didn’t Want to Be President, Son Claims
December 24, 2012
By SARAH PARNASS
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Reporter
via WORLD NEWS
Mitt Romney didn’t really want to win, his son Tagg Romney claims in a recent interview.
“He wanted to be president less than anyone I’ve met in my life,” Tagg Romney told the Boston Globe. “If he could have found someone else to take his place . . . he would have been ecstatic to step aside.”
The oldest Romney son said his father is a “private person” who wanted to help put the country back on its feet, but hated the limelight that came with presidential politics.
Tagg Romney told the newspaper that he and his mother Ann had to convince Mitt Romney to run for the presidency.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/12/mitt-romney-didnt-want-to-be-president-son-claims/
I don not think Trump is a narcissist. He is egotistical, for sure, maybe overly confident, but he has more reason than most to have a big ego. Conrad Black indicates that Trump voluntarily offered to testify on his behalf when he was dealing with legal issues. Trump voluntarily offered testimony to a Congressional committee about cost overruns on a building project. Sound bits is what I expect in the types of forums that we have seen Trump participate in. I liked his post-caucus interview last week and thought it was informative. Trump has also posted on his web site more detailed policies that make sense. .I also think he stands for fairness on some level. He was asked about the Planned Parenthood thing and he said he continues to support them because so many people have told him they were helped by PP — BUT, they would have to stop the abortion fetus thing. I do not think that Trump is the usual phony — and I think his campaign has gotten more serious. At the start he threw some off the cuff remarks out — now I think he is thinking more carefully about what is doable.
Drudge debate poll:
http://drudgereport.com/
“…..Romney never was that visceral, not even close towards Obama in 2012…Obama, like a fix soccer game was designated to win….”
I agree. Where were Romney’s cajones 4 years ago? His speech today shows he can be tough if he wants to be; his polite campaign of ’12 was just a boring scripted formality to reelect Obama.
I think Trump can play this to his advantage in 2 ways. It is becoming obvious who his enemies are in the GOP. As president he will be expected to not let them anywhere near real power, thereby avoiding insurrection while starving the crony capitalist club.
Secondly, he doesn’t need to adjust his position to get the independent and Reagan Democrat vote. For every Greedy Old Pig that would rather vote for Hillary, he’ll pick up ten middle of the road voters.
Or to say it another way, any GOP politicians taking cheap shots at Trump at this stage are showing their vast ignorance / arrogance and how totally out of touch they are with middle class America.
The God father lizard crawled out of the Crypt and waved a wet noodle at Trump…Mitt is one dumb SOB
Loved how Trump shut down the NYT leak. NO Permission! He has the editorial board DOA…Who is going to use a stolen tape..
The Mitt Sock puppets failed….Dance little Marco & John Roberts Cruz
Yeah, they seem to have shifted their preferred candidate from Rubio to Cruz, who was primarily giving well rehearsed speeches tonight.
How about the FOX moderators having onscreen projections (quotes and clips) at the ready against Trump but not against any other candidates. They are SO transparent. This used to work, but not any more. I think they just drove Trumps numbers up, yet again.
How foolish can the establishment and media be????
Please release my comment thank you.
Interest g point that I think does not take into account income and capital gains taxes. The net value of that growth after tax would probably be less than half that number.
didn’t watch the debate. more interested in a couple episodes of American Greed, about scam artists. any similarity?
anyway, was there any mention of that looming 50,000 megaton bomb called 20 Trillion debt looming and what to do about it? anybody know how to set up a betting pool what the debt reaches when the collapse comes? marked by hyperinflation setting in. that one.
the whole PLANET is going to shyt its pants folks. r u ready? I’m not. I need to hone my survival skills and start stockpiling something, I just don’t know what yet.
no nation, no empire has EVER reached a debt level this high and it just keeps going higher and higher. and NO ONE in gubbamint is raising the alarm for fear of being booted out of office for fomenting panic.
Sick of Trump. Stop talking Trump. Either America is dumb enough to vote for Trump, or it is not; either way nothing anybody says will make any difference.
There is zero difference between the GOP and the Dems, policy wise.
Trump is therefore the perfect candidate for president, not that it’s any of this Canadian’s business.
Oh wait! Since Obama interfered in the last Canadian election, American elections have now become my business.
I think Trump, buffoon though he is, will be business friendly, won’t be a sucker on environmental issues, won’t practice identity politics, and won’t let America’s national security wane.
I think Trump will treat Hillary Clinton much the same as he treated Rosy O’Donnell.
Obomber already has made it a laughing stock. She will cackle on its grave.
Ted Cruz’s record shows that he will stand against those who want to negate the U.S. Constitution.
Cruz offered the amendment that killed the amnesty bill by removing the path to citizenship ( voting ) for illegals. That killed the bill because that’s all the Democrats wanted out of the bill
Up until virtually yesterday Trump was a big advocate of amnesty.
He would not be making deals for personal gain, which is a BIG part of the problem at the moment.
LindaL
The biggest of all personal gain is the achievement of your ambition. Trumps ambition is to impose his vision on the country. He does not seek the counsel of others in formulating policies, and as you can see from his business projects his instincts have frequently been wrong . And some of his instincts such as the unlimited right of government to eminent domain claims on private property nullify traditional rights that Americans have enjoyed.
Respect for the rights of Americans under the constitution has to be the guiding principle of anyone who would be president of the United States .
How did Cruz create the problems of the country? He is the most hated man in the Senate for opposing the agenda of the ruling class . And how is Trump not part of the problem, sincehas bought off politicians and contributed to the corruption his entire business career. It’s kind of like a businessman saying he’s not part of the problem when he hires illegal aliens in place of Americans.
Romney is a coward who still yearns to be president. Good thing he didn’t embarrass himself by running against Trump in the primaries and suffering defeat once again.
http://nypost.com/2016/03/03/romney-is-too-much-of-coward-to-really-say-whats-on-his-mind/
Only Trump will solve the immigration problem. Every other issue is smoke. Every other candidate is discussing irrelevances.
“Up until virtually yesterday Trump was a big advocate of amnesty.” David Frum has an good article about the problems with US immigration. He indicates that Trump changed his mind after reading Ann Coulter’s “Adios America”. I have no problem with someone changing their mind about how to tackle an issue. I fully expect politicians to modify their thinking to reflect reality (I think Libs would have done well to modify their thinking around Muslim refugees!) — but I do expect them to stick with a general direction (lower taxes, addressing an immigration problems, etc.) I also have no problem with Trump even doing a 180 — so long as his earlier views were as a private citizen. We all change positions on things all the time as we get more information. I do not expect Trump will change any of the positions he has hammered out with concrete policy information (such as his alternative for Obamacare and changes to VA.) I think the argument of “flip-flop” is typically shallow. When a politician flip flops on an issue it is usually for a good reason (such as Harper on income trusts.)
tim g, nice Rubio taliking point.
Except:
You don’t really know what Trump is worth.
You don’t really know when and how much trump inherited.
Just think, if all productive capital was invested in the S&P index, everybody would be rich right?!? People who utter that line amuse those of us actually in business because we are always amazed when someone can demonstrate galactic ignorance of economics in one short phrase.
Trump claims publicly available financial statements he filed before the campaign peg his net worth at $10.5 billion.
Did you check out those statements before making your statement? It would help your credibility if you did.
Re: Cruz
I think actual sincerity is easily mistaken for “canned earnestness” by a public understandably cynical about politicians.
I don’t care for all the bible-thumping myself, but I think he’s sincere. And the modern media is quite capable of nixing any attempt to “re-Christianize” the US.