16 Replies to “We Don’t Need No Flaming Sparky Cars”

  1. Recycling dead vehicle batteries is expensive and dangerous and therefore costly.
    Just like ordinary alkaline batteries, vehicle batteries can last ten years or one month. The cost to replace them is astronomical for most people.
    If electric vehicles ever do appear in sales of millions, that means multiple millions of dead batteries needing to be recycled or appearing in waste dumps.
    This could be an incredibly bad situation.

  2. Batteries need to be redesigned so that they are more recycle friendly, but having been in the recycling business at one time, the problem is not as great as you try to state. As to battery expense, use a leasing program. The problem at this time is and battery power, not just for automotive powering, is that industries is still too small to garner the attention it needs to accomplish improved technology.

  3. “Electric Cares Were Not Worth it.” I note the past tense. Does this mean we can safely dump this idea to the ashcan of stupid green engineering scams?

  4. I don’t see electric cars really taking off until gasoline and diesel prices are out of reach or combustion engines are regulated out of existence by green theocracies.

  5. If electric cars were a viable alternative, private industry would have designed and built them with their own investment funds.
    The whole thing is just another aspect of the Great Global Warming Swindle.
    The Swindlers need to be tracked down and held to account, not just for justice’s sake, but to provide a disincentive to repeat this sort of government colluded criminality.

  6. “Batteries need to be redesigned …” So, more time and more cost, more testing to ensure safety amongst consumers, more government approvals, etc., etc. Nothing comes for free.
    “… the problem is not as great as you try to state.” Get those stars out of your eyes. Problems with technology are ALWAYS greater than we can possibly imagine.
    “… use a leasing program.” The cost is going to be absorbed somewhere but it always ends up on the consumer’s lap. ALWAYS.
    “… to accomplish improved technology.” That’s as dumb as rocks. I’ve been in IT for 40 years and I’ve heard that same line about computers for 40 years. “Oh, it will make you life so much better and easier.” Garbage. Pure, unmitigated garbage.
    Your sales pitch would put a used car salesman to shame.

  7. …having been in the recycling business at one time…
    We used to call it the junk business…still in it, I see…:-)

  8. Electric car manufacturers are just another type of enviro-parasite feeding off the taxpayers.

  10. Hay gary, people like you are in the box thinkers. There is already a viable battery powered market, ever see or use, as I have, an electric fork lift. There are also battery powered delivery vans in many places in the world, and they work great. There is also a large market for battery powered tools, golf carts, and the auto motive use could also expand, especially in large cities. I am against government subsidization of the industry. But even I could redesign batteries so they are easier to recycle, but one needs to also consider operating efficiencies, so I’ll leave that to those who are better versed in that area.
    Yah, gary, leasing. Leasing is an option used in housing, cars, industrial equipment, by airlines, land use, furniture, hell you can lease damn near anything, butt in garyworld, not batteries. Not a financial wizard I see.
    And as to computers gary, I was an electronics wiz in hi school, in mid 60T’s, there has been a slight improvement in tech in the electronic field since then. I can even use a slide rule, that’s how damn olde I am.
    Yah gay-ree, market drives research so more profits can be realized, that’s how demand market capitalism works.

  11. Electric cars are a liberals wet dream. All the noxious parts of its construction and propulsion are founded in other people’s backyards ! Usually the backyards of poor brown people. Nope, no noxious fumes spewing from the tailpipes in the liberals neighborhoods. Nope the power plants generating their “clean” electric cars are in the brown people’s neighborhoods. So are the toxic waste dumps where the spent batteries go to decompose. And since America no longer produces the steel, plastic, or rare earth materials. The fabrication is in the Far East … in totally foreign brown people’s neighborhoods. Yep ! Electric cars are really making Los Gatos, Sunnyvale, and Palo Alto a GREAT place to live ! And none of the liberals have to even think about the true life-cycle cost of their super Eco-cars!

  12. Oh, utopia is just around the corner! Just drive this electric car and all will be wondrous and light! At least according to you.
    Handling vehicle batteries is highly dangerous work. They have to be handled with specialized, protective clothing. Recycling them is equally dangerous and therefore expensive work.
    Most of them will lovingly end up in garbage dumps.
    So, being an electronics wiz in high school makes you an expert in IT, right? Your “electronics wiz” is probably dripping down your leg and pooling at your feet.
    Moron.

  13. They were worth it for Elon Musk.
    It wasn’t even the worst case of his stabbing taxpayers in the back. Elon, as we all know, fled to Trudeaupia at age 17 to dodge the military draft of what was then a still free South Africa. Dying for freedom is for suckers who can’t get second passports.

  14. if all vehicles went electric in one year, the grid would collapse because we cannot generate enough power to charge them. Windmills and solar panels never will.

  15. Gotta love the electric car.
    It is a perfect example of government interference.
    Ist the tech, who ever invents the next generation of battery will be a billionaire .
    Tomorrows breakthrough for 200 years, that is the saga of the electric car.
    Remember that poor bastard who was converting Renault Daphine’s in Montreal?
    Back before this latest fad of save our cities, Transport Canada screwed that business into the ground.
    Second liability in sue happy NA, you show me a battery with an energy storage to weight ratio close to a gallon of gasoline, I will show you a bomb.
    Under current rules/regulation such a battery will never reach market.
    Third politics.Electric vehicles make great sense for cities, they locate the pollution(power generation) outside the city and fit the most common transport needs.
    Same reason we used to use electric locomotives underground.(Mining)
    Golf carts would be fine for inner-city use,no government funds required so no room for graft.
    Finally fashion.
    Electric Cars require reliable, affordable electricity.
    Unless you have massive surplus electricity the efficiency is not there.
    If your electricity comes from any hydrocarbon source, it is insanity itself to burn the fuel to generate electricity and use the electricity to generate motion.
    Save fuel go straight to internal combustion.
    And our Eco-Nasies are violently opposed to nuclear power.
    Money talks.
    At current oil prices none of these “alternative” make any sense, governments are all broke, citizens face poverty and an ever increasing financial burden from government.
    What idiocy will be the final straw for you?
    Too many useless parasites draining my resources to waste on truly dumb ideology.

  16. Are you willfully ignorant of the massive subsidies the whole eco-roller skate industry gets, in one form or another?
    Elon Musk receives massive subsidies to build his luxury, snob value cars. HE makes money, but, government pays him tens of thousands for each car he produces.
    As for the rest of the cars, Leafs, and the rest of the roller skate industry, each one is massively subsidized by provincial, national, and yes, local governments.
    For this alone, anybody with half a brain should be opposed to these cars, for that reason alone, at least until government stops picking winners and losers.
    The law of entropy has yet to be revised by Oblahblah and Trudope, and the rest of the econutters. That’s everytime some econutter states “battery technology is improving”, its just so much nonsense, in terms of expecting quantum leaps in energy storage and capabilities.
    Until we can strap a nuclear reactor into the trunk, alt energy cars will always be a niche market for the snobbish environutters. These are the same kind that believe that electricity comes from a plug, not from a primary source.
    Most people don’t want a car with a 120km range, nor can afford a $90k Tesla for its snob value

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