“Ten years ago I simply parroted what the IPCC told us. One day I started checking the facts and data – first I started with a sense of doubt but then I became outraged when I discovered that much of what the IPCC and the media were telling us was sheer nonsense and was not even supported by any scientific facts and measurements. To this day I still feel shame that as a scientist I made presentations of their science without first checking it. The CO2-climate hysteria in Germany is propagated by people who are in it for lots of money, attention and power.”
Also Ivar Giaever: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/07/08/nobel-prize-winning-scientist-says-obama-is-dead-wrong-on-global-warming/
Put mind in gear before putting mouth in motion.
Seriously, Mr. Scientist…. it didn’t register ANY twinges of “what the heck are they talking about, and perhaps I should do a little digging”, 10 years ago, especially when a minority said “hold on, what?”
I know I’m not the only one, but haven’t most people gotten to the point where if a well crafted campaign for or against something happens, seemingly suddenly, ( whether you do not agree, and especially IF you do and it’s suddenly a thing.) you do not automatically suspect a propaganda exercise being played on you?
A couple of years ago “salt is horrible for you” was suddenly in every newspaper, etc… for a couple of months. Did that not ring the BS meter like a carillon? ( I tend to agree with that, but the sudden carpet bombing made me very very suspicious.)
The interview is three years old.
The UN and IPCC traveling all around the world in their Gulf steams and leer jets driven to fancy meeting rooms in gas guzzling 11 mpg limos and dictaing to us all SCREW THEM
“…Sea Level is calculated…”
Sciency type question: how is it measured? Sit on a beach and watch the waves roll in. Sit on a ship and watch the waves in the ocean. How do you average all of this out, when it can vary by METERS, and definatively say the levels have changed a couple centimeters, with no margin of error?
So how can this be used as a marker of impending doom? But ask this kind of question, and you are an evil denier.
Fred, it’s done with tide gauges.There’s nothing wrong with this in principle. Average tidal height records go back centuries. Except that what the IPCC did was select those tide gauges located near large harbours like Hong Kong. All harbours subside because of urban development and pumping out ground water. Using selected gauges showed a much larger apparent increase.
As to your earlier comment, this is not surprising. In the academic community there’s a tendency, for the most part a good one, to take people at their word. If they claim to have done the research, you accept that statement. As has been noted here many times, this is what the peer review process is supposed to do. I did too at one point many years ago. Then something happens. Something is claimed which just sounds wrong. And when you look into it, you discover that the supporting data doesn’t support it at all, or it’s an outright statistical fabrication aka Mannian statistics. Now intrigued, you start looking at other things and discover they are pretty stinky as well.
Then, to compound it all, you discover that there’s a relatively small group reviewing each other’s papers and handing out free passes, thus completely corrupting peer review.
That’s the Excelsior Moment when you finally say, “All of this is pure crud!”
“”Average tidal height records go back centuries.””Cgh
But that assumes that the bedrock(continental drift) reference has not changed. The Eastern seaboard (USA) was subjected to a relative measurement of Continental drift VS water levels and found that the “Simple” measurements were invalid. “The Shore has Moved”
The Newfoundlander that marks his fishing spot with an X on the side of his boat has the same problem.
// The interview is three years old. //
Yeah, the organizations seems to be comatose.
http://www.desmogblog.com/european-institute-climate-and-energy
It’s the same old crew.
Key People
The following were listed on the EIKE website as of May, 2012: [3]
Holger Thuss — President.
Michael Limburgt — Vice President, Media & Politics.
Klaus-Eckart Puls — Spokesman.
Horst-Joachim Lüdecke — Spokesman.
Wolfgang Müller — General Secretary. [12]
Advisory Board
According to EIKE’s website, as of May, 2012 Advisory Board Members included: [4]
Helmut Alt
Dieter Ameling
Horst Borchert
Robert M. Carter
Richard S. Courtney
Friedrich-Karl Ewert
Karl-Otto Greulich
Gerhard Hosemann
Hans Jelbring
Hans-Burkhard Horlacher
Hans HJ Labohm
Klaus Landfried
Marcel Leroux (deceased)
Horst-Joachim Ludecke
Horst Malberg
Eberhard Menzel
Lubos Motl
Nils Morner
Lord Christopher Monckton
Gernot Patzelt
Ian Plimer
Carl Otto Weiss
Zbigniew Jaworowski
Heinz Zöttl
What’s your point, DIZZY (most appropriate nic I’ve seen in 20+ years of using the public Web)? Do you have one? Didn’t think so. You like names? Here’s 31,000 plus to go through since you apparently have a limitless amount of free time to piss away:
http://www.petitionproject.org/signers_by_last_name.php
Assclown!
Download ” The Delinquent Teenager”.
Its all in there about what a pile of garbage the IPCC reports are.
That “petition” is even more out of date than the names I posted.
// first circulated in 1998, […] The petitioners claim to have signatures from 31,000 plus scientists // wiki
And you have been your charming & irrelevant self for a good long time as well —
RPJ 16 December, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Wow, what an arrogant and defensive asshole Michael H. Anderson. When you actually have something to bring to the conversation do drop in again. Until then, don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
https://paulitics.wordpress.com/2007/08/10/what-do-politics-and-monkey-shit-fights-have-in-common/#comment-16251
Ed, it may be three years old but it still reflects sanity and conditions have not changed.