When Socialist Pieties are a Kind of Chaff

However, as we’ve seen, Polly Toynbee is much more troubled by what you earn and keep than by what she earns and keeps – which, given her six-figure Guardian income, plus appearance fees, royalties and property portfolio, is quite a feat. Like many of her peers, Ms Toynbee thinks that voting for the state to confiscate even more of other people’s earnings is somehow an act of altruism. It’s also, conveniently, presented as an excuse for not using her own considerable resources personally, directly, to help those she deems deserving. And if a well-heeled leftist bangs on week after week about how terrible unequal incomes are and how something must be done urgently – and then says she won’t do what she insists is morally imperative unless the state forces her to do it – this isn’t a resounding affirmation of her professed principles.

One of these.

12 Replies to “When Socialist Pieties are a Kind of Chaff”

  1. In her righteous “whiteness” Ms Toynbe displays 2 obvious symptoms of the mental disorder known as dogmatic leftism –
    1) Chronic Hypocrisy (the do as I say not as I do lib-left reflex)
    2) Pathological sense of entitlement ( The concept of leftists demanding we pay more tax is directly equated to their ambition to carve a larger chunk of the redistributed largesse for themselves)
    3) inherent sociopathic tendency (Ms. Toynbe believes the hammer of the 4th estate(media) exists to deceive, manipulate and bend people to her will -this is closely associated with megalomania which leftist politicians display).
    My only statement to ms. Toynbe is that I never agreed nor voted in any referendum to subvert the civil liberties of the liberal democracy I live in into a authoritarian fabian dystopia. Personally I don’t care what your beliefs are – believe in rainbow unicorn land if you want, knock yourself out – just leave me out of your utopian schemes. If you persist in either defaming me for my resistance or attempt to use the club of the leviathan state to coerce me into supporting/funding things I believe to be insane and self detrimental, we will be taking this culture war hot – at that point you have to decide if the mental disorder you mistake for idealism is worth defending or sacrificing everything for – because I and millions of other “angry villagers” will be storing the utopian bastille with torches, ropes and hot tar.

  2. Well said. Although at this point unfortunately there are not “millions of other angry villagers” that are concerned about the gradual but exact move into the world she would like. Most people are sleepily being shepherded into the Fabian utopia she envisages by false promises of a free lunch.

  3. Well said Occam; there is very little i would disagree with except, and please do not take this as a criticism. The use of leviathan as an adjective for a state using a club on it’s populace does fit in with my understanding of Thomas Hobbes’ Leviathan ias the seminal act establishing the Soverignity of the ordinary Citizen. ( excuse grammatical errors-my drop out of high school education is at fault) smile.
    I believe the distortion of the base for Social Contract-now being used to promote universal health care-is a deliberate attempt by clientilist political parties over the centuries to increase the unscrupulous’ reach into the pockets of taxpayers
    Again! I concur with the theme of your comment Occam. After a recent church service during which a nice Lady provided a talk on the latest effort to generate an interest in providing extended support for Aboriginal children to escape their culture of deprivation. As she passed by the church kitchen where i was drying the coffee social dishes I asked her to stop for a moment.
    Thanking her for her presentation I said “she will find greater acceptance of her funding plea if hte presentation did not bring forward the shibboleth of the Residential Schools. I pointed out further the original individuals who received mistreatment were now in their seventies or beyond and the majority of Canadians remaining had noting to do with the government policy; funding and events of the crimes.
    The reaction you will anticipate is an immediate thrust towards the misuse of social justice et al and bringing into my first observation a new discovery. The nicely said diatribe stated the Residential Schools situation is scientifically proven to bring Trauma lasting for seven (7) generations.
    When I again expressed my concern again regarding the damage to her funding plea it fell on deaf ears. The shibboleth is still to be used as dogma moving deeper into expanding the victimizing culture.
    Naturally nothing really positive devloped from our conversation, except for a small possibility the nice Lady will mention the “comfrontation” she experienced to someone who may rethink their funding reach-out. I will spend several more Sunday coffee socials explaining why i think their approach is not only wrong it perpetuates flawed thinking.

  4. The hypocracy of liberals they think no one but themselves should have guns just look at Obama and the rest of the Washington D.C. and Hollywood eletists

  5. Residential schools? Try residential death camps? Other than more than half of were dead, those Jews left did okay. Maybe half of my ancestors from the Volga German Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic were killed in Russia and they do okay today.
    To quote the movie Platoon? Excuses are like…….., everyone has one.

  6. That is the leftist definition of a “good person”, one who does what the state tells them to, because in the leftist worldview all problems are caused by people not obeying the state. Befehl ist befehl.
    Conversely a bad person is anyone exercising their free will by eating meat, disagreeing with the party line, burning fossil fuels, or giving their own money or time to a cause the lefties don’t approve of.

  7. MikeSr, she honestly believes that the next four generations will be traumatized by the Residential Schools abuses? If that is the case I’m still suffering from the violence of the Fenian raids, damn those Irishmen!
    Good luck trying to change her mind, I don’t think logic and reason will sway her.

  8. “The nicely said diatribe stated the Residential Schools situation is scientifically proven to bring Trauma lasting for seven (7) generations.”
    Assuming those seven generations include generations yet unborn, how exactly does one scientifically prove “trauma” for people who do not even exist?

  9. A pretty cogent case could be made that there are too many blind sheeple; who simply obey the state for the sake of not being singled out of the compliant herd…
    In any case, in addition to Occam’s salient observations Ms Toynbee is merely using her bully pulpit position within the media complex to ‘guilt the population’ into surrendering more of their income via the taxing authority of the state.
    In short, she supports state sanctioned theft of income to NO GOOD purpose; and has become an advocate of brigands or one who lives off pillaging others.
    In former times, the use of excess cash to ameliorate social conditions was known as CHARITY and was an individual VOLUNTARY act.
    Ms Toynbee’s borg like thinking is just another useless rant to engender the thought that ‘resistance is futile you will be absorbed by the state’. The screed she is venting is merely more ‘Bolshy’ propaganda at the expense of the liberal democratic state.
    Perhaps her real reason for the rant is that the Conservatives swept the election and the voters
    voted for less theft and more freedom which would drive any lefty into paroxysms of froth railing against the democratic result. For all her considerable wealth she is quite a poor loser.
    Cheers
    Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
    1st Saint Nicolaas Army
    Army Group ‘True North’

  10. See! See what happens when you take the Hypocritic Oath!
    The answers to problems – real or imagined – become so obvious, so simple, and so, ahem, coincidentally advantageous.

  11. When you start from the failed assumption that government and statism is the only force for “good,” it doesn’t take much time to drill down to one’s personal brilliance and thus divine right to rule the great unwashed.
    With really good pay and perks for them and their allies btw, because well they “deserve” it. Three cheers for the intelligentsia – where would we be without them. Where indeed.
    But’s what really important is the peasants get soaked for every cent possible, right up to the point of not being able to afford to read their esoteric garbage.
    No problem, the Great Leader Network will handle the entertainment and elucidation with rousing patriotic worker songs and cool slogans like “I’m not a one-percenter because nobody is.” Too bad her phony baloney job will be declared “redundant” or is that “redacted” or possibly “removed?”
    “Then they came for the journalists.” I was one so I was scared s*****ss.

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