Via Instapundit;
The transgendered suffer a disorder of “assumption” like those in other disorders familiar to psychiatrists. With the transgendered, the disordered assumption is that the individual differs from what seems given in nature–namely one’s maleness or femaleness. Other kinds of disordered assumptions are held by those who suffer from anorexia and bulimia nervosa, where the assumption that departs from physical reality is the belief by the dangerously thin that they are overweight. . . .
Try giving them pretty white horses. If it doesn’t work, at least they still have a dick.
Encourage treatment instead of surgery?? But then the Kardashian’s would have ALL the attention!
the transgendered have stolen the spot light from the LGB group. which I think is 3% of the population , to now something likely less than 0.3 of the population .
the blacks at 12%of the US population and the natives in Canada at 4.2 must be upset that they have usurped the attention of the MSM and Hollywood.
Is there an echo in here? I thought I just said the very same thing a few days ago.
Trans-anything is a mental disorder! Glad to have corroborating testimony from this study showing that I am not a hateful person, but rather someone who dwells in reality, not delusion.
Their right to pervert trumps everything, including mental health.
As I tried to argue in a post downscreen, we need to fashion a new razor:
“Never attribute to culture what is better explained by psychosis, but do not rule out culture.”
As I struggle to pay my bills, watch a little entertainment, have a nice set of dishes or towels, I begin to wonder are the rich are so bored with their lives that they have the time to debate internally whether they are the correct sex as their birth provided them or not?
Oh to have such little worry in my life to have time to worry and debate whether I should be a boy or a girl, and pay the medical expenses to carry out the experiment.
So 80% of transgendered get over it and outcomes from surgery are no better than without surgery. They are simply crazy. That’s what I’ve always said albeit less eloquently. I normally say that someone has a problem between his ears so they cut off his dick.
What about mothers who send their sons to school in dresses and then whine when they’re not allowed to pee with the girls?
Yes, they’re crazy.
No, they should not be encouraged, accommodated, or made to feel they’re craziness is acceptable or normal.
No, psychiatry is not a science.
If there is one thing psychiatry is good at, it is identifying and/or creating new forms of psychosis to treat. If it had its way, psychiatry would pathologies everything about us. See the DSM for confirmation. This alone ought to make you just a little skeptical of the psychiatric explanation of all form of trans-sexualism, but especially of the latest fad (he said, tendentiously) known as “transablism” which we were discussing a day or so ago.
Boko Haram has a point.
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the real problem is that society and indeed government is willing to codify that individual perception trumps any sort of provable thesis.
the human rights commissions operate on the basis of whether one has perceived oneself to be injured. what you said has hurt my feelings. it does not matter that what you said is based on actual events or observable reality. fact has no place in this process.
in canada, a prisoner can perceive himself to be aboriginal and be transferred to a special aboriginal prison. cop-killer craig munro has done just that. victimhood can be perceived and acquired.
where does it stop? and why are we still discriminating against all those pour souls who perceive they have been abducted and anally probed by alien races? if perception rules over all… surely we must correct this injustice.
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the real problem is that society and indeed government is willing to codify that individual perception trumps any sort of provable thesis.
the human rights commissions operate on the basis of whether one has perceived oneself to be injured. what you said has hurt my feelings. it does not matter that what you said is based on actual events or observable reality. fact has no place in this process.
in canada, a prisoner can perceive himself to be aboriginal and be transferred to a special aboriginal prison. cop-killer craig munro has done just that. victimhood can be perceived and acquired.
where does it stop? and why are we still discriminating against all those poor souls who perceive they have been abducted and anally probed by alien races? if perception rules over all… surely we must correct this injustice.
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He asks “Why is society so eager to lump “transgendered” individuals into the same category with homosexual or bisexual individuals?”.
One reason is they can then attack any therapy to treat “transgendered” individuals for their illness as being bigoted and discriminatory, a gross human rights violation and therefore illegal and worthy of severe punishment.
My guess is psychiatrist Paul McHugh will get a taste of Progwrath.
I consider the so-called “trans-gendered” to have a mental disorder. They don’t like to hear that and thus form groups which rail about the “bad treatment” they get from physicians who haven’t been “properly sensitized” about their needs.
Also, by being a minority group, they use “human rights” commissions to ensure that society doesn’t get to hear the truth about their condition because, in the totalitarian HRC’s, truth is no defense when it comes up the completely illogical claim of someones feelings being hurt.
For another one of the darlings of moonbats, homosexuals, the incidence of psychiatric illness in that group is explained by “discrimination”. I first began looking into this when I practiced in Vancouver and noticed that there were far more really messed up homosexuals in my practice than I would expect. These individuals were often HIV+, all on welfare and complained bitterly about how they were discriminated against – a rather dubious statement from someone living in Canada’s queer Mecca.
It wasn’t until I moved out of Vancouver that I noticed a total absence of borderline personality disorder in my male patients in the interior. Borderline personality disorder seemed to be confined to women although it should be equally prevalent in men. Then it struck me; male borderlines tend to be homosexual and have all left the heterosexual redneck interior for Vancouver. These individuals will never be happy as their relationships consist of intense over-valuation of a new love interest followed by an equally intense villification when things go wrong. However, instead of getting medical treatment, they are part of a group which in which all aberrent behavior is viewed as the product of external “discrimination”. Even the well adjusted homosexuals, who were working and functional, in my practice had a myopia for this glaring psychopathology in their midst and there was a reflexive acceptance of them because of their sexual orientation. A few of my homosexual patients who I knew well did opine that this group of very disordered homosexuals was giving homosexuality a bad name but that was a minority position.
There’s also 3-4 fold higher levels of depression in homosexuals compared to heterosexuals in addition to personality disorders. I guess what we’ll see next is individuals with severe depression demanding to be left alone to lie around in their homes and being considered “disabled” and refusing treatment but demanding to be supported by the state. We’ll also see a serial killers demand recognition for their unique lifestyle which has been misunderstood and the discrimination against them which has prevented them from fulfilling their lifes dreams just because they are differently abled.
From a Libertarian standpoint, I consider that people should be allowed to engage in aberrent behavior as long as it doesn’t directly impact other individuals. Thus, I don’t care what consenting adults do in the privacy of their homes. However, the insistance of an individual with a mental illness that physicians be forced to “treat” them by the state is repugnant. This is especially repugnant in Canada where there is a “right” to medical care. Unfortunatly the vast majority of physicians aren’t ready to stand up and denounce policies which cater to what is a mental illness.
I knew a queer guy who wanted to be straight but the psychiatric community told him to suck it up and accept his queerness. Why wasn’t he allowed to have support for his fantasy when the government spends tens of thousands of dollars slicing and dicing genitals because people are crazy.
Bravo, neo. Your point, if I may put it in other words, that the psychology of the individual is taken to be authoritative, is a cultural pathology that explains a host of personal and cultural maladies.
Nick, you’re right about the proliferation of pathologies in DSM. What psychiatrists hate to hear is when I tell them that the DSM V is a completely unscientific document as it’s the result of a consensus position arrived at by a group of psychiatrists.
I was fortunate to have done my med school psychiatry under a very biologically oriented psychiatrist. He upset a number of the psychiatrists he was working with by having medical students and psychiatry residents perform physical examinations on patients when they were admitted! This was to ensure that there was no medical pathology mimicking a psychiatric disorder — the psychiatrists who were aghast at this never ever would touch a patient. This is something I’ve done for the whole of my medical career and have found numerous cases of where a patient was admitted to psychiatry had a serious non-psychiatric illness as the cause of their psych admission.
What I’ve noticed is that many people go into psyciatry because they’re not good at a lot of aspects of medicine. That said, I know some very good psychiatrists who have enough knowledge of medicine that they will immediatly call in medical specialists to sort out what’s going on with a patient when a purely psychiatric treatment approach isn’t working. The division of psychiatry and neurology is an artificial one and psychiatry is the only medical specialty that has no objective criteria to support a diagnosis. People get to see CT scans of their brain tumor, photographs of their colon cancer whereas the best a psychiatrist can offer is “The DSM-V says you have this disorder”. It’s really time for an objective, scientifically based psychiatry.
Loki, all very fine points in this and in your previous comment.
Cheers,
its all a very first world problem
if you are a certain sex , the dishes and towels go unnoticed. if you are the other , then its important .
one sex likes to arrange cheese on a plate , the other will eat it off the block in front of the tv.
Hey, naysayers– just wait until Caitlin Jenner gets her first yeast infection. You’re going feel pretty stupid.
Loki either needs his own blog or posting privileges on this one. I’d pay money for his insights, if that were a necessity.
Loki, if you’re reading this, I wonder if you could point to some useful, science-based resources on BPD. I need some to educate some friends of mine.
This is something I’ve done for the whole of my medical career and have found numerous cases of where a patient was admitted to psychiatry had a serious non-psychiatric illness as the cause of their psych admission.
Could you give some examples? I can’t conceive of how a physical ailment could produce psychiatric symptoms severe enough to force an admission, but that’s ignorance, not criticism. The only thing I can think of is that I’ve known women whose personalities were radically different on and off hormonal birth control.
“Loki either needs his own blog or posting privileges on this one.” Agreed.
Daniel – think confusion and dementia in seniors. Used to be considered “it is as it is” and nothing to be done. Then it was discovered that at least some seniors had bladder infections. Usual symptoms not seen, or at least not felt by the patients. So now urine tests are done frequently when a senior seems to be going downhill rapidly.
I don’t know how much stock to put in this idea, but lately I’ve seen reports that Toxoplasma gondii puts the “crazy” in “crazy cat lady”.
“It’s really time for an objective, scientifically based psychiatry.”
Science needs a Restoration.
Help me out here someone. I don’t get the connection between “I, Napoleon”, “pretty white horses” and the radical surgeries (yipes) being done on confused and unfortunate transsexuals’.
Mr. Jenner can pretend he’s a girlie all he wants. All the snippin’ and stichin’ in the world won’t change him from “XY” to “XX”. The same, albeit in the opposite direction, goes for Ms. Bono.
My sentiments exactly.
Loki, it is great to have you with your insight and experience here.
At one time, the nuts were characterized as believing they were Napoleon … white horses I don’t know. But I’m sure the reference is to the crazy people.
If Bruce is really a girl, then why does he have to take hormone shots to convince his body to go along with his head?
That makes sense, thanks. I suppose some men feel as strongly that they are really Napoleon as others do that they are really women.
a lot of words to describe a mental illness. “male and female He made them”.
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2015/06/04/ontario-becomes-first-province-to-ban-conversion-therapy-for-lgbtq-children.html
Stop laughing. Alberta will be province #2 real soon.