Today’s letters to the Calgary Herald provide for interesting reading. Here are two very different views:
Shameful
Shame on the Alberta PCs for violating the principles of good government, namely the protection of individual rights. Shame on Danielle Smith, whose turncoat flight from liberty arguably handed Alberta to the tax-and-spend NDP.
And shame on the Albertans who voted in socialism — the evil and destructive philosophy that punishes those who are creative, productive and responsible to reward those who are not.
Glenn Woiceshyn, Calgary
People person
Congratulations, Alberta! You have shown backbone and the conviction that hope triumphs over fear.
The smug, self-serving, self-satisfied, condescending Tories are gone. I hold no political office or position with the NDP. I have known Rachel Notley for 15 years and you will find her a woman of integrity, balance and judgment.
She is not hamstrung by ideology. She is a pragmatic, humble, warm person, whom I know you will come to trust very quickly. She and her party will govern, not rule. Her concern is for people, and she knows that people need good employment as much as anything to prosper.
Stay engaged. We need to be led, not preached to.
Lance Rancier, Edmonton
I lol when I read the “not ideological” line. Notley is a dogmatic lefty. The conceit of many on the left is that they see their socialist ideology as being pragmatic when it is as inflexible as could be.
The progressive Conservatives are not conservative at all but merely progressive. In difficult economic times the progressives simply raise taxes without cutting spending. If they are only going to tax and spend we might just as well have the real progressives govern for a while to see what they can do. Certainly can’t do any worse. But this is certainly a time for the wise investor to buy up property in Saskatchewan.
Hell actually did freeze over, and Omar Khadr skated out.
Many have argued that the Redfraud regime was actually Alberta’s first NDP government. Moreover, Stelmach’s needless and failed assault on the energy industry was right out of the socialist playbook.
As for Notley it is unlikely she is only pretending to be an NDPer. Let’s not be naive. Her caucus is brimming with hypercaffienated social justice warriors and other assorted nutters. Notley’s government will range from mildly bad to catastrophic.
Meanwhile the PC Party corpse must be buried. If it gets up and starts walking around four years of NDP rule could turn into twelve plus (e.g. Chretien).
you will find her a woman of integrity, balance and judgment.
She is not hamstrung by ideology. She is a pragmatic, humble, warm person,
Give her 18 months, you’ll find her lacking in integrity, balance and judgment and totally hamstrung by ideology. her own goofy party of loons will eat her and she won’t recognize herself.
i’m giving lance the benefit of the doubt that he is a reasonable judge of character
“You have shown backbone and the conviction that hope triumphs over fear. The smug, self-serving, self-satisfied, condescending Tories are gone. She is not hamstrung by ideology. She is a pragmatic, humble, warm person, whom I know you will come to trust very quickly. She and her party will govern, not rule. Her concern is for people, and she knows that people need good employment as much as anything to prosper. Stay engaged. We need to be led, not preached to.”
Nothing preachy there eh?. I agree with the overall sentiment, the NDP are the NDP; they have a majority and will not be able to resist their statist, authoritarian and totalitarian tendencies. Unfortunately the old elite of hard working entrepreneurs who build Alberta into an energy powerhouse will be replaced by self preening, yes preachy, inexperienced and statist buffoon elites who have no idea how a buck is made.
Pretending that won’t happen, that somehow they are “moderate” or an Alberta version of populism rather than socialism is naïve to the nth degree.
No I can’t say it’s been a good day for the federal Tories and it’s obviously a good time for the federal NDP, how can one possibly argue this is anything by very bad news for the Liberals? Well Chantel Hebert can because apparently Trudeau has snookered Harper with his more regressive National Child Care Plan (soon to be followed by a National Emissions Program, a dusted off National Daycare Program, a National Summer Jobs for kids of Liberal Hacks Program, etc).
It’s a tax hike disguised as a tax justice program; I guess Hebert is so entrenched in the old Upper & Lower Canada thinking, she can’t see past JT’s BS.
Worst outcome – Grits supported by Dippers after the next election. IMHO – not gonna happen. Albertans will still vote PC and there is plenty of time for the new AB government to shove $billions worth of statism around for all to see and abhor.
To Glenn Woiceshyn:
Albertan’s didn’t just vote in socialism for the first time, they just voted for a party that is more familiar in doling it out.
Those insufferable leftard fools crowing don’t even realize that the NDP was nothing but a means to an end – getting rid of the Progressive Conservatives. That is all.
My guess is that over half the NDP are committed Bolsheviks with nary an ounce of pragmatism. As quick as they possibly can they will plunge a knife into the heart of Alberta business. The effers simply can’t help themselves.
Touche’
After the disgust generated by the hamfisted actions of ‘Redfraud’; Jim Prentice doubled down and
tried to co-opt the WR by embracing Smith and the floor crossers. After 44 years in power it is this type of arrogance that earns a rebuff.
The PCs decided to stop listening to their constituents, split the vote with WR and let the NDP march up 97 Ave NW to the Legislature.
Arrogance will kill political ambition every time…
As is often said people vote parties OUT of OFFICE, not necessarily vote them in…
Comfy fur arrogance, got the LIEberals turfed federally, and the PCs provincially.
In short, the PCs did it to themselves…with a big assist by Smith and the ‘floor crossed lovers’.
Cheers
Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group ‘True North’
My question would be whether CPC conservatives think that the infiltration of progressives within the party is restricted to the Alberta PC’s? I suggest it has been happening to the federal CPC since the first minority CPC government. Correction, with the merger of Alliance and the PC party.
My observation is that when struggling to gain power there are decisions made when principal and philosophy are tested. It is a rare thing when principal and philosophy triumph. The current CPC party has reverted to the same top down process that existed during the Mulroney years. One of the few assets that remain is Harper himself. He has residual loyalty (out West anyway) and the question this fall will be if it is enough.
BBC Trending
A Canadian ‘mass exodus’ on social media
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-32629758
We have Joe Feces elected now.
A
He did a great job screwing over Calgary while on council. And the low information voters bent over each civic election.
Now he’s just itching to screw over the whole province.
An oxygen thief if there ever was one.
The judge and defence lawyer are both oxygen thieves.
I had a traffic accident today. My passenger an NDP supporter was blathering on about how the Alberta NDP would not be stupid and wreck the economy like the NDP in BC, SK, MB, ON. I laughed so hard I hit the ditch and ran over a Rachel Nutley sign. I told him the parable of the scorpion and the frog and how destroying the economy will happen in Alberta because destroying economies is in the NDP DNA! Like the scorpion explained to the dying frog after stinging it and ensuring their mutual demise “Its my nature”. Indeed destroying economies is in the NDP nature – don’t expect anything different.
Well, after 35 years in the saddle, I an now officially done working. In the last 5 years I have been paid over $120K per year. I am one of the “evil rich” that needs to pay more of their fair share of taxes. Why should I work, when I can now just laze at home unemployed and not contribute any more? My tax bill will be reduced to the point that I will have more cash in my pocket by not working than by working. Let’s just say I am done and dusted for employment and smile. Thanks NDP!!
Hans:
I think the defection of Smith et al was a good thing for the Wildrose – it got rid of the closet progressives and easily fooled idiots. But I don’t know where they went wrong in attracting the vote of the real (small “c”) conservatives in the voting population.
I have a hard time believing that the province that I have lived in all of my life has socialists as a majority of the population. These are not the people I grew up with. Or maybe I’ve just had my head in the sand for too long.
I actually joined the PC party ‘way back, just to have a vote in the replacement for Ralph. When “Special Ed” was somehow parachuted into the position from nowhere, I saw a change in the party I didn’t like. The process was basically repeated by the usual suspects for REDfraud and pretendin’ Prentice. Now, THERE’s a slick dude – decapitate the opposition, then call snap election! Needless to say I didn’t renew my membership. In fact, I have voted Wildrose ever since.
Wildrose should have been elected in the last election. I was hoping for history to repeat the 1971 election, the first election I voted in and the one where Loughheed and his (real – capital C and small c) Conservatives kicked out the Social Credit. But then Smith would be our Premier. Maybe not the best scenario. I hope Brian Jean can kick NDP butt in the next election.
In the immortal words of Dorothy: “Toto, I’ve a feeling we’re not in Kansas anymore.” But WE didn’t leave – “Kansas” did!
One comment on the election. The Apprentice had it coming. The fool wasn’t satisfied running the table in the by- elections. He had to try and destroy the opposition and made an offer to the floor crossers they thought they couldn’t refuse. This one move was seen by the electorate as so crass that his fate was sealed. The budget didn’t help and his comments re: look ‘in the mirror’ were uncalled for but by then voters had had enough. Case closed. He is the Harry Strome of the PC party.
Notley is a died-in-the-wool socialist as is her capitalist hating husband. She knows no one in the oil industry. Has no contacts whatsoever in the most important industry to AB and Canada. Wonder if she has ever been in a business office? Government offices don’t count.
I expect everything will be in play. How about a sales tax in the first budget just to get things rolling? Increased gasoline tax? why not?
Today Ujjal Dosanjh gave her a thumbs up. Apparently she worked for him at one point. A recommendation from him ought immediately disqualify one from ever holding public office.
Ring side seats folks. It’s going to be interesting watching the moon bats emerge out of the ozone.
Hehehehe, well done HaySeed. This is the best way of putting it to them.
Since I have retired, I have more money in my pocket than I ever had before. It’s damn expensive to go to work.
Like you, I was into the six figure income and paid big taxes. Now I pay an annual income tax rate of just 10.78% which equates to the cost of the really good two week vacations we took out of Yellowknife.
Enjoy the leisure life!!!!
I read Nutley’s background bio. She and her husband have been working for Government unions their entire lives. She’s a hard core ideologue who’ll follow the tediously predictable path of her ilk — spend the treasury into the ground, ruin the economy, squander anything remaining on hare-brained “eco” schemes, and turn even nastier and accusatory when Santa Claus fails to show up to clean up the self-created mess. Time to get sensible people in the province united behind a proper conservative party. Otherwise we, and likely the rest of the country, are doomed.
I was somewhat reluctant to comment here, for fear of being corrupted by all you Left-wing Albertans, but I HAVE to ask; in which city will the NDP establish their first Alberta shooting gallery,and you know I don’t mean the kind with guns and targets.
Oh yeah, and what about a sales tax, and a carbon tax, will they be implemented this Summer or Fall?
Let’s analyze this.
There are a number of NDP elected MLA’s in Calgary that have no clue what happened.
The signs around Calgary would say vote NDP or had the name Notley on. Many, perhaps majority of those that voted for NDP did not care who, where, why, they were so angry at the Progressives. They just voted to get rid of them.
It’s interesting they did not think of the consequences of voting socialist.
As Hans said, they voted Progressives out rather than socialists’ in. Mass media was great help.
There was one Smith, formerly of Wild Rose, on the radio program today. They have these two morons on QR radio in the morning, one is homosexualist (not homosexual) and one is a drug pusher. Anyway Smith blamed Prentis for the loss. Went on a long, longest winding tirade of how good she is and the rest are not so.
4 years of socialism can kill a horse, so maybe it is time to move on.
E Pericoloso Sporgersi
Language warning but pretty funny. Hitler finds about the NDP victory. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyXyxLiDtHo
a topic of discussion at work today was how long it will take the NDP to turn Alberta into a have-not province, the same as they did BC and Ontario. The shortest estimate was 2 years, the longest was 6.
From a ‘have’ province to a ‘have notley’ province in the blink of an eye.
this has been the dipper strategy in both the last federal and this provincial election. Focus on the leader since most of the candidates have no real world experience and many are chosen, not for any skill or experience they may have but simply to fill a quota of women, homosexuals or visible minority. Bonus points if you can tick off more than one quota box. Everyone thought they were voting simply for Dear Leader and couldn’t be bothered to look into their actual candidate. Either low information voters or useful idiots
The upside is that ‘Tar sands’ is now archaic english.
After the alberta erection… The new crop of bumper stickers should prove very entertaining!
Harkov >
“…..leftard fools crowing don’t even realize that the NDP was nothing but a means to an end”
Heh, Exactly!
It’s actually pretty comical in the way that they’re gloating and backslapping as if they’ve worked and planned some great victory based on their own merits.
They were more stunned than anyone else to find out they actually won.
It’s too bad Leftists do not have the capacity for shame, it would be allot more satisfying to watch their begrudged moaning in 4 years’ time.
HaySeed >
“Why should I work, when I can now just laze at home unemployed and not contribute any more?”
LOL it’s funny you should say that, I’m thinking the same thing!
My brother 47 years old whose average earnings were between 750K – 950K per year at his job in Calgary just quit his position yesterday for the same reasons. Said he’ll consider returning to employment based on what happens in 4 years.
I’m also seriously considering it as well. I too am a “High Earner”, wealthy enough to retire, but slightly too “young” in years to truly do so. My position is also not easily replaced, certainly not for a few years or within the current oilfield climate.
As with my brother, I also have properties in western Canada and abroad but didn’t have any plans to have my retirement residence anywhere but in Alberta (save some winters).
That plan could very well change in 4 years as well.
When socialists take power their affect on the economy is not readily apparent. They don’t run out of other people’s money. Albertans will see lots of green initiatives, likely increases in taxes and fees, and plenty of union work rules quietly changed. This will all be done with a beaming media loudly proclaiming; see they wern’t so radical after all.
I clearly recall the look of ecstatic joy on Bob Rae’s fart-sucker face when, months after being elected, he announced that his government had just borrowed mega-billions to finance its social engineering projects.
That worked out so well, didn’t it?
Indeed. I was just thinking the same thing Nold. Five years is enough to persuade big companies to move, its not long enough for them to all leave. It takes time to move an entire company. So the NDPee will order the lobster appetizer and full steak dinner, and they’ll eat it, but they’ll be out of power by the time the waitress brings the bill to the table.
Ask Quebec. Montreal used to be where all the head offices were. Not anymore. Took them 20 years but the PQ managed to drive them all out. Kids in Quebec are all trying to make careers as wood carvers and waitresses.
Two things happened this week. First was that the NDPee think Alberta voted FOR them, and therefore they will rush to do their thing. Which is jack up taxes and then waste the money on socialist dreamery. Sadly for the NDPee, Alberta voted AGAINST the PCs and Liberals, not for the NDPee.
Alberta voted AGAINST tax-and-spend socialism and corruption. So the NDPee are going to go ahead and do -exactly- what people voted against, they’re going to do it a lot, and they are going to do it badly because they’re mostly a bunch of goofs who never ever thought they’d get elected. The NDPee is a drinking club, not a political party.
The second thing that happened was that every businessman in Alberta started looking to see if he can move his operation. I expect any portable drilling rigs there are getting broken down and moved to Sask or the USA. Oil Sands projects can’t move, but they can start laying people off and ditching any expansion plans.
Which proves only one thing. Government has too much power. Alberta just voted for more of what’s making it sick.
That’s ok. The next five years of having the too-powerful government run by union hacks, waitresses and political science students will crush the NDP for a generation. Ask Ontario. The only NDPee ridings here are the Full Moron ones in Hamilton, London and the Indian reservations. This despite the best efforts of the media to boost socialism. Because everybody knows the NDPee is composed of half-wits and criminals.
Note to Lance. No one is arguing that the NDP want good jobs for Albertan’s, it’s just that things don’t work so well when everyone works in the public sector and you run out of other people’s money.
The only NDPee ridings here are the Full Moron ones in Hamilton, London and the Indian reservations.
And don’t forget Northern Ontario and here Sudbury in particular, the bastion of unionism, where every single election the drones make their neighborhood lawns awash in the signage of NDP orange. I swear, I cannot for the life of me understand how my neighbors, who are otherwise the paragon of sense, can succumb to this irksome lapse. But then I remember that most of them are the progeny of (formerly) INCO employees, and then it clicks – this NDP/union infection is hereditary.
And it starts, my stocks are down 20%, next my house value, then my disposable income. The people who voted NDP have absolutely nothing invested in the economy so they don’t care, they believe that their bills will be paid by Nutley pixie dust.
I so fear the young, bright ideas that her fearless cabinet will come up with. I don’t see anybody there who can do the Math!
Well, judging from that second comment, I remain convinced that in electing the NDP – we have essentially put drunks in charge of the liquor store.
Knight 99 et al:
One thing to consider is the studies that show that the younger you “retire” the longer you live. I have seen too many of my older friends retire at 65+ and not last 6 months. I won’t be in that group as I have too much to do. That “working for a living” was seriously cutting into my fun time.
Hayseed, sometimes though working is what keeps people going.
HaySeed >
Well, all the power to you, and best of luck, I’m sure you’ve earned it!
I’m going to hang around for at least the 4 years to see what happens. I’m 99.99% convinced that the NDP win was a kneejerk backlash at the PC government. That’ll flip 180 degrees in the next election, I’m fairly confident of that.
Otherwise, I’ll call in my chips if it doesn’t and live a nice comfortable life in a non-totalitarian warm spot to be sure.
hilarious comment
Maybe it was implied up there, but bears saying–IS
the rise of Nutso etal from influx of eastern immigrants or a homegrown thing. Or does it matter.?
I wonder if you are still preaching the same tune now that Nutley announced she is pulling $470 out of every household. As a comparison that is two months of my son’s schooling. So, what is this you were saying about governing vs dictating? Preeeetty sure she just dictatorially announce she is doing whatever the &:$; she wants.
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18 months?? It’s only been 8 months and she’s even more arrogant than Redford…which I thought was not possible! She’s a hypocrite and a liar and is already destroying Alberta’s reputation and future! We are in deep trouble here.