25 Replies to “I Amuse Myself”

  1. Pope John Paul II tried to get rid of the priestly practitioners of Liberation Theology (Marxism) from the RC Church. Obviously he was not successful.

  2. The church will survive this pope, but they will really need to get back to making it a requirement that the pope be Catholic rather than Communist next time.

  4. I could never understood how could the panzer pope Benedict II abdicate without making sure that a commie dope would not be his successor.

  6. When the Pope advocates for birth control and family planning, especially in 3rd World sh*t hole countries, then I will take his (“the Church’s) stance on AGW seriously.
    The Catholic Church is in decline. It’s been headed down at least since Luther and picked up considerable steam since the 1960s. The hierarchical model doesn’t work any longer. The Pope’s pronouncements are have become mere guidelines to follow or not as you choose. Millions are Catholic lite (Catholic in name only).

  7. So, “if you agree with me, you’re a moral authority adding to the consensus, but if you disagree with me, you’re not a scientist.”

  9. “It’s been headed down at least since Luther and picked up considerable steam since the 1960s.”
    Yeah, that was Vatican II. They made a big mistake when they let Catholics actually read the Bible.
    It was an even bigger mistake than the Vatican made in 1615 when they went against and criminalized Galileo because of Papal politics which had zero to do with Biblical faith. A mistake the Vatican has been building on ever since by championing junk science(which was what they were championing in 1615 against Galileo) at the expense of the True Faith.
    As usual…follow the money.

  10. Do you actually have evidence that the Church was against science or did it caution Galileo- its employee- against forcing it to take a position it had not yet examined? The Church did, after all, appreciate Copernicus’ work, and who do you think founded the science of genetics?
    I realise bashing the Church is fashionable among the Jack Chick set but this kind of mud-slinging is more embarrassing than inflammatory.
    To my knowledge, there is no serious inquiry into “global warming” either on the Vatican’s part or anywhere else. THAT is the problem. Pope Francis, it seems, is not being scholarly here. He would do well to listen to Christopher Monkton, himself a Catholic. His Holiness could learn a lot.
    As for the Church being in decline, like the economy, the Church is growing in Asia.
    So much for that narrative.

  11. “Do you actually have evidence that the Church was against science or did it caution Galileo- its employee- against forcing it to take a position it had not yet examined?”
    The “Vatican”(not the Church, Catholics are so arrogant calling themselves that) put Galileo under house arrest for the last 9 years of his life and forbid him to speak or tell people about how the solar system was measurably and observably laid out.
    If you don’t know the history of it then look it up.
    Since then, the Vatican has backed anti-freedom junk science* such as the ‘Theory of Evolution’** and Global Warming(just to name 2 junk science Wowsers) to make up for their WRONG hidebound position on astronomy which, like the Catholic Church itself, had absolutely no Biblical basis.
    *not a surprise since they were against the Bible being printed in languages that common people spoke and used in their everyday lives
    **which repudiates the Doctrine of Original Sin and makes Christ’s sacrifice pointless

  12. I don’t worry about the Pope. I doubt if any Pope will ever be a friend of the left; the left have no friends other than Lucifer.
    Look it up, says the anti-Catholic bigots. I always take their advice because it’s hard to remember every single controversy from the past two thousands years.
    “It is a good thing that the Church did not rush to embrace Galileo’s views, because it turned out that his ideas were not entirely correct, either. Galileo believed that the sun was not just the fixed center of the solar system but the fixed center of the universe. We now know that the sun is not the center of the universe and that it does move—it simply orbits the center of the galaxy rather than the earth.
    As more recent science has shown, both Galileo and his opponents were partly right and partly wrong. Galileo was right in asserting the mobility of the earth and wrong in asserting the immobility of the sun. His opponents were right in asserting the mobility of the sun and wrong in asserting the immobility of the earth.
    Had the Catholic Church rushed to endorse Galileo’s views—and there were many in the Church who were quite favorable to them—the Church would have embraced what modern science has disproved.”
    The entire controversy is explained here: http://www.catholic.com/tracts/the-galileo-controversy
    And here: http://www.catholic.com/magazine/articles/the-anti-catholic%E2%80%99s-trump-card
    I’m Catholic because I read history. I’m Catholic because I know the Bible. I’m Catholic because there is objective truth.
    Long Live The Pope
    Long live the Pope!
    His praises sound
    Again and yet again:
    His rule is over space and time:
    His throne the heart of men:
    All hail! The Shepherd Pope of Rome,
    The theme of loving song:
    Let all the earth his glory sing
    And heav’n the strain prolong.
    Beleaguered by
    By the foes of earth,
    Beset by hosts of hell,
    He guards the loyal flock of Christ,
    A watchful sentinel:
    And yet, amid the din and strife,
    The clash of mace and sword,
    He bears alone the Shepherd Staff,
    The champion of the Lord.
    Then raise the chant,
    With heart and voice,
    In Church & school & home:
    “Long live the Shepherd of the Flock!
    Long live the Pope of Rome!”
    Almighty Father bless his work,
    Protect him in his ways,
    Receive his prayer, fulfill his hopes,
    And grant him length of days!
    🙂

  13. “I realise bashing the Church is fashionable among the Jack Chick set but this kind of mud-slinging is more embarrassing than inflammatory.”
    Yes. Predictable and shopworn too.
    SDA seems to be suffering from a particularly high incidence of wingnuttery* lately.
    Almost makes it unreadable anymore.
    * The right-wing version of moonbattery.

  14. I am not catholic nor a “Christian”….but I preferred the “German Shepherd”….

  15. The Bishop of Rome does not speak on behalf of the apostolic churches outside of Rome.
    The Bishop of Rome is NOT and never has been the leader of the larger Church, just a bishop of a city located in one geographic area of the larger world.
    Peter’s eventual BELIEF that Jesus was truly the Son of God is the rock the Church was built on … not the man himself.
    I would agree, though, that today’s pretender on the throne is a Liberation Theology practitioner, a marxist wolf in sheep’s clothing. That’s the trouble with placing a failed human being as the primary element, rather than the belief that God (the only sinless one) walked the earth in human form.

  16. Just a PS on my point.
    The bishop of Alexandria, Egypt is also recognized as a Pope (papa … father) since his office can trace its apostolic succession to the Apostle Mark.
    It’s quite easy to verify this fact through the search engine of your choice.

  17. So I see you still have not read up on the subject.
    Galileo championed a theory that wasn’t even his. He was never tortured and was allowed to continue his work. The Church apologised for his comfortable house arrest.
    The Church has no formal opinion on the teaching of the Theory of Evolution, not that this matters because genetics covers Darwin’s potholes.
    Also consider how Catholic missionaries helped develop dictionaries, ect. Pretty useful when one is spreading the Word. The use of the vernacular was not meant to change the format of the Mass. Just a little detail.
    JJM, sadly, there comes up every once in a while, a kind of intellectual laziness that has no place in these discussions.
    What Anselm said.
    Now, maybe one can debate why Pope Francis is doing this without the garbage. He is, after all, the most visible head of the Church and not the other bands.

  18. “It is a good thing that the Church did not rush to embrace Galileo’s views, because it turned out that his ideas were not entirely correct”
    ^Look a dissembler^
    More than not rushing to embrace, they arrested him.
    THEY TOOK HIS LIBERTY AWAY.
    Who wouldn’t be ‘bigoted’ against such behaviour. Oh right, anselm.

  20. “Galileo championed a theory that wasn’t even his. He was never tortured and was allowed to continue his work. The Church apologised for his comfortable house arrest.”
    And they arrested him for the rest of his life, but unlike so many that they tortured, Galileo wasn’t. How nice of them to ALLOW him to continue his work.
    They apologised after he was DEAD, that’s counts for something. Maybe you can tell us what?
    I’ll tell you what. In light of a Vatican thug silencing a climate skeptic, the too late apology they gave Galileo means nothing.
    The purpose of apologizing is to REPENT of the type of behaviour that you’re apologizing for.

  21. Right on Kate!
    The Vatican has a real “Baal priest” now who has found a formula to mix ritualistic magic with Marx. Jesus warned of the “Baal priests” – those who would substitute politics and ideology for spirituality and empathy – we sure got us a ring in Rome with this one –
    Banana republic Marxism meets centralized religion – what a match – somewhere Marx and Lennin are envious that their dream of controlling a world religion for socialist political ends has finally been accomplished.

  22. Thank you Osumashi and Anselm – The Pope can make all the pronouncements he likes, as it concerns Catholic dogma and etc., but I do not feel that his views on the economy and such, carries much weight. For instance, I will hire whom I please in my business, and pay them what I think the market will bear. I personally think women (mothers) are better off at home looking to the welfare of their children, and I will too, take any job I so please at whatever wage I feel suits me – not His Holiness. He’s a nice fellow, but he is no Pius, John Paul II, or Benedict and, as was mentioned, he is the first Jesuit to wear the Shoes of the Fisherman, and well … truth be known, there is a time and a place for Jesuits – it’s not Rome and it’s not now!

  23. Look- if you don’t want to read up on the subject, just say so.
    Larry Bennett, I don’t know if the Pope is as worldly as his predecessor. It’s making him and, by extension, the Church look bad. I can’t imagine Pope Emeritus Benedict saying stuff like this.
    Saint Ignatius was the founder of Jesuits and a former soldier. I won’t believe Jesuits are all bad.

  24. Osumashi – No doubt about it, especially during the counter-reformation, the Jesuits proved their worth; they were truly the Pope’s army. It is just that, being a teaching group, mostly, they sometimes encourage people to think, just a little too much! Trudeau Sr., was taught by them and schooled in the infamous London School of Economics, and look where that, got us! Francis is presently sounding like a feminist spokesperson. As Phyllis Schlafly proved, the most strident feminist is no match for a righteous woman!

  25. Larry, Trudeau certainly went to the London School of Economics (and it’s at least as famous as it is infamous), but he was only an auditing student, ie., sat no exams and took no degree. He certainly got an education – he’s a model of how far you can get with a fourth-rate mind and a first-rate education – but he didn’t get it there. For him as for a lot of people LSE basically meant “let’s see Europe”.

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