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This would not be a good time to piss off the Germans , as the anti Muslim movement is quickly gathering steam there. Or perhaps it’s a boost by non Muslims to help the movement along. Even bets.
Breaking News-
A Panzer Division was seen heading toward Mecca and a little black rock.
Europe on fire, millions protest Islamic Radicals killing innocent civilians.
Meanwhile back at home,
at the McLean, Virginia, home of former Vice President Dick Cheney, 20 demonstrators, some in orange prison jumpsuits, walked onto his property to mark the 14th anniversary of the opening of Guantanamo Bay prison.
Two protesters were arrested.
The protesters were from the anti-war group Code Pink.
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It just makes me feel all warm and fuzzy, and safe,
knowing these people are on the street trying to protect religious fanatics that are out to kill me…
Similar arson attacks being reported in Sweden: bbc.com/news/world-europe-30658482.
Similar arson attacks being reported in Sweden: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30658482
There it is again – feel it – that wave of reactionary German nationalism
Related to the fire bombing.
Germany’s new anti-Islamic PEGIDA movement plans to rally again on Monday, with analysts expecting its ranks to swell by thousands following this week’s bloody jihadist violence in France.
http://www.thelocal.de/20150110/germanys-pegida-expects-record-rally
Note: The article writer is not sympathetic to PEGIDA.
The sign says “I am for pig meat on a barbecue. Does that make me a Nazi?
Europe opens its borders to muslims while we open our borders to illegal aliens becuase of scumbags like Barack Obama
Is it the 7th or the 3rd?
We wish. At the moment Mecca is winning, and our leaders are too cowardly to say the word that keeps missing.
Je Suis Charlie is meaningless unless our leaders confront the enemy. At the moment the enemy is us.
I did read national post Dec 2014 about depression in youth and teen research done in sunny brook hospital in Toronto about death of Amanda Todd and Rehateh and so many that bullying and offisive behavior affect linked to facctor of depression of parents, girlfreind or boyfirnd school family and media like facebook can affect those youth do commit suicde can be canabas or early age drinking or abusive relationship basically study and prevention in suicide behaviour is years of grow mental illness lead for person can not handle society and anti social life. Next steps study of suicide muslim attack seen in youthh for me some one take gun go attack supermarket or cartoon publisher is refelct of those people were french grow in frence and how society freind school mosque muslim ggoup society lead them to act suisidal to me but before kill themsleves by their hand because they are muslim should not kill himself they act horrible that somee one shoot them and excuse of cartonise is also show degree muslim childrenn grow in majority of non muslim society and how they grow up with sever depression and how much they can not handle offensive talk about. When muslim said to nonmuslim in advice: do not offend Quran, prophet Mohamad and muslim and islam in whole group, in respond frenchh said we have culturee we love cartoon and laugh at muslim using our pen and offend and abuse them inside our country more. Some they do not relized list dead on floor could prevented if stop offensive bullying stuff who lead more clash of two culture. Some muslim love to prophet Mohamad is to can not handle some one make fun of it this is like send amanda todd to facebook by freind laugh at photo and she dead today she may not take gun to kill anybody but her death will kill life of their parents living without her not know why and how this is happend. More research on life of suicide bomber individual must done know root and cause of their action and prevention before it is too late.is that worth it to see all dead?
yes Ken, most of your post is smack on, but Mecca isn’t winning, it us who are losing. During the WW2, the Germans didn’t defeat the Dutch is 3 days, it took the Dutch 3 days to organize a defeat, big difference in the 2 concepts. So, yes, you are right, the enemy (NME) is us!
Ken: “At the moment, the enemy is us.”
That’s a bit of hyperbole, I realize; and by that ‘we’, you do not mean us. But it’s long past time that we try to get as clear as we can about who the enemies of civilization are, and to be able to say, clearly, why they are its enemies.
Your point, I take it, is that our enemies are both foreign and domestic. The foreign enemies are all too obvious: the savages who explicitly reject the values fundamental to the West: value in the individual, and therefore individual rights; respect for rationality, and for all that its free exercise has done for us since the dawn of the West, and especially since The Enlightenment.
It is startling, perhaps, to note that, while our own, domestic enemies—the morally and intellectually bankrupt self-styled elite that run our governments, bureaucracies, schools and universities, the multicultural postmodern relativists—, have been more polite about it, they share with the Muzzies the same objections to Western civilization. They value the group over the individual. They value agreement over truth (the cowards!). They prefer their (group) fantasies to reality, and demand that you do the same. They enforce submission to their doctrines, albeit with different means: the head-choppers will kill you for your sins; our governing elites will use the entire force of the machinery of government to silence and otherwise impoverish you.
So, there is that sense in which the West has one enemy, although it takes rather different forms. At least, for now.
no research is necessary, we know the root cause of suicide bombers and islamic terrorists. why try to delay the obvious end action? Are you sure you are not justin turdoe?
Agreed. In spades!
Defining the enemy as “us”, “radical Islam”, or even “radical Islamists” is a necessary exercise but not tactically useful as far as I’m concerned.
It would be somewhat akin in WWII to defining the enemy as Nazis or Nazism; true in the abstract but difficult to deal with proactively; e.g. General, go out and bomb the Nazis.
Instead, what did happen is we bombed Germany, destroyed German submarines, ships and aircraft, and killed German soldiers because we had the luxury of being able to identify the enemy as Germany.
Not so today, because it’s not acceptable to bomb Saudi, Pakistan, Iran, etc. or any combination thereof.
So the question still remains, who is the enemy? And the answer must be determined in terms that allow realistic defensive and offensive actions.
The real enemy isn’t so much radial Islam, but the far left ideology that allows them free reign within our midst.
Western Europe is enduring this scourge as the end result of socialist governments’ policies of accommodation, appeasement, and “inclusiveness”. Look at France – 10% of their population is Muslim thanks to a wide-open, come-as-you-may immigration policy. Now they are reaping the whirlwind. The other European nations are not really that far behind likewise.
Can we in North America learn from their mistakes before it is too late, or is it already too late? And are we willing to do whatever we need to do to defeat this plague?
“The real enemy isn’t so much radial Islam, but the far left ideology…”
That’s the same as saying the enemy is “Us”, in which case the Islamists would probably agree with you.
If the contention is that we’re at “war” because there’s shooting involved, then we must identify the potential shooters, ie people; you can’t shoot or bomb an ideology.
wrong Western standards for Islam http://waltherpragerandphilosophy1.blogspot.com/2015/01/forgetting-arabesque.html
When you have 35 countries in the world that still enforce blasphemy laws, that is an important distinction.
That, and apostacy laws, which are also punishable (in the strict interpretation) by death.
Contrast ‘Revenge is mine, said the Lord’ in the Judeo/Christian tradition with a Muslim populace which is driven by revenge at any offfence (blasphemy or apostacy) and you may be closer to the answer on how to deal with it.
“When you have 35 countries in the world that still enforce blasphemy laws…you may be closer to the answer on how to deal with it.
I don’t disagree that those “35 countries…that still enforce blasphemy laws” is one possible definition of the enemy. It would certainly be considered extreme by today’s standards but who knows how a few more Hebdos might affect that.
Well, if what you say is true, then ultimately it becomes a matter of what we as a society are willing to tolerate when our way of life is on the line. So in a sense, yes – sometimes the enemy IS us, especially when you consider the leftist quisling enablers that we allow collectively to carry on with their agenda. The USA is a prime example. By and large, they are a conservative society. But look at what they are willing to tolerate without a massive reaction – executive amnesty for millions of illegal immigrants……..funding of Obamacate when they know it isn’t in the best interests of Americans……..executive action blocking the Keystone Pipeline………….the constant bungling in foreign affairs………NSA spying…….the list is almost exhaustive.
So yes, we identify the shooters – THEY are the ones with the concrete ideology pulling the trigger. But we know who the enablers are, too. We deal with the enablers and it makes dealing with the shooters a moot point.
Things are becoming clearer and focusing our attention nicely.
We of the West, hesitate to act , are slow to seek revenge and try to avoid sudden death decision making.
We like this approach, it allows misunderstandings to unravel and democracy to remain civil.
We like it but are not wed to it, our own progressives are always at work, attempting to incite and stampede the mob, to their greater good (More power and control by bureaucratic fiat).
These terrorists and the enablers from our progressive groups share much in common.
The individual is expendable for the greater good of their group.
Democracy is wonderful, when it serves their desires.
Democracy is useless/must go when it defeats their demands.
Both mistake politeness for fear.
The murder of the French citizens this week is a great lens,the actions of our Press, the majority being gutless Presstitutes in all their glory, the multiple apologists for the barbarians who reply imagined insult with murder and the spokesmen for the murders themselves…these help the average member of the masses, to see more clearly.
One does not decide to attack their neighbours just cause, one needs to believe these neighbours are a definite menace , before assigning them a fate.
Muslims might consider reading more history and less of their “Good Book”, as each murderous attack causes the complacent masses to murmur and mumble, enough provocation will release their voice.
The voice of the enraged mob is not pretty.
We are still the same killer apes with a thin veneer of civilization”.
A clearly defined “deadly threat” to us and ours , has a very short life span.
Just now we are still mumbling in our sleep, is this bunch of Jihadists worth awaking from the dream?
If you have never been there, you probably do not know where you do not want to go.
But want is subservient to must.
If the Jihad continues, the muslim population digs their own grave.
Sad but that is the nature of the mob.
Exactly the same reason the truly evil amongst us seek to blend in, as outstanding foulness has short duration.(Except as leftwing politicians)
We may not be able to elegantly tease out the true enemies in our midst, but we can certainly take steps to prevent new ones coming in. I cannot imagine the countries of the western alliance in April of 1944 taking in large numbers of German immigrants and refugees seeking to escape the effects of the allied bombing campaign with the rationale that most Germans aren’t active members of the Nazi party or SS moles.
…we can certainly take steps to prevent new ones coming in…
Exactly. But any policy such as “no more Muslim immigrants” which inevitably incurs collateral damage is very distasteful at the current level of crisis, in Canada at least. So I fear nothing will be done until the 11th hour.
My opinion on this one won’t be popular.
I say ban Islam.
I know, I know. But it’s important to recognize that Islam isn’t a religion – or at least, it’s so markedly different from other religions as to require its own category. Islam is, at its heart, a virulent, rabidly violent totalitarian agenda that demands complete control over all religious AND secular matters – that is, control of the government. Any non-believers must be subjugated, enslaved, raped, tortured, and murdered. Allah COMMANDS it. This puts it at odds not just with the American constitution, but any country that values freedom.
What’s that you say? Most Muslims are peaceful, and don’t want violence? That may be true of some western Muslims, but by the tenets of their own holy book, that makes them apostates – who must be subjugated, enslaved, raped, tortured, and murdered. Remember that worldwide, Muslims kill more Muslims than any other group. And how can anyone ever really be sure, when their own religion institutionalizes the concept of ‘taqiyya’, i.e., pretending to be moderate in order to launch covert attacks on infidels? How many mosques in North America have been directly linked to terrorist organizations?
If western, peaceful Muslims want to be seen as distinct from the mass murderers on the other side of the globe, it’s past time for them to excise the violent parts of the Koran and rebrand themselves. A global Protestant movement among Islam, I think, has the potential to be a positive thing.
What “collateral damage” exactly are you referring to? What “level of crisis” would be enough?
“Can we in North America learn from their mistakes before it is too late, or is it already too late? And are we willing to do whatever we need to do to defeat this plague?”
No.
Yes.
No.
Despite all our wishful thinking,unless somewhere in the allegedly “Free World” a new Leader arises, to take those of us who are willing by the nose and inspire us to actually fight back, we will remain in thrall to the PC warriors who currently keep us down.
I wonder what percentage of us are willing. Once our generation of old guys dies off, I have no faith whatsoever that the younger people, propagandized for two generations of pussified political correctness, will be capable of doing the job when they take over,and we are in care homes.
In WWII when Germany (the defined enemy) was bombed in order to kill the Nazis and Nazi enablers (the political or philosophical enemy), innocent Germans were killed. That was acceptable collateral damage due to the level of crisis, Poland and France occupied, Britain being bombed.
In the “war” on terror, policies such as “no Muslim immigration” or “deport all Muslims”, which are based on defining “Muslims” as the enemy, would inevitably result in some innocent people being hurt. These kinds of policies are not palatable in Canada because currently we aren’t being occupied,bombed or terrorized sufficiently. What level of crisis would be enough? I don’t know,let’s see what happens in Europe.
My main point is that defining the “enemy” as “radical jihad” or “radical Islam” is necessary, and easy, but not sufficient for developing an actual battle plan. As well, saying the enemy is “Us (i.e. our lefties)” inspires a nice political debate but is not very useful in developing specific plans to deal with people who might try to kill us. Everyone knows the war is caused by some aspect of Islam, and half of us know it is exacerbated by leftist ideology; but now it’s time to get more specific on how to wage the war.
BTW Harkov, I don’t disagree with your characterization of “enablers” as the enemy, I just believe that we also need a more practical definition.
Imagine a senario here in america where a bunch of islamic extermists screaming ALU AKIBAR and MUHMMED IS AVENGED started shooting up a place then someone lke a Dirty Harry type pops up and takes them all out one by one until their all dead or dying then cover them in Pig Blood and dropped over Mecca
PM Harper understands better than any other leader. After the election we’ll know not only how many of the past two generations have been “pussified” but also how many of the present generation have no taste for the “war on terror”.
I’ve noticed that “terrified” Muzzies who fear a backlash never return to their god-forsaken homelands and yet Jews have been fleeing Europe due to increased anti-semitism and the only place they can flee to is Israel.
Speaking of which, it is surprising that the recent edition of Harper Collins UK atlas omitted the name Israel from the map of the area but included Gaza and the West Bank. In response to a query from The Tablet (a Catholic publication), the company explained that the atlases were to be used in schools for English speaking children throughout the middle east and the locals prefer that maps not mention Israel; therefore they removed the reference in deference to those “local preferences.” “You know, those local preferences that Israel not exist in any way, shape or form. It’s unclear how long this has been going on.”
“Your point, I take it, is that our enemies are both foreign and domestic.”
Exactly!. The left within our borders at the moment and in control of almost every institution is freedom’s main enemy and has almost destroyed our western liberal democracy with the apathetic acquiescence of our population which has been lulled with the serene song of a free lunch and a Marxist utopia just around the corner. This has bred a weakness in our society which is evident in our unwillingness to confront a worse threat to our civilization than either the Third Reich or Soviet Union.
My main point is that defining the “enemy” as “radical jihad” or “radical Islam” is necessary, and easy, but not sufficient for developing an actual battle plan.
Surely not, but as a starting point, not importing the enemy en-masse is certainly a starting point at the very least.
In the “war” on terror, policies such as “no Muslim immigration” or “deport all Muslims”, which are based on defining “Muslims” as the enemy, would inevitably result in some innocent people being hurt.
This is not a war of our choosing insofar as whether or not we are willing to do what is necessary in order to protect our way of life and the very existence of our society. Innocent lives are lost in any conflict; that doesn’t presuppose that we should not, therefore, defend ourselves. They are counting on us not doing what we need to do in order to do exactly that. They are exploiting and thriving upon the indulgence of an increasingly progressive society. The same goes for our lax immigration policies. Some Muslims might be a benefit to our nation. I just don’t believe the cost/benefit ratio justifies it.
BTW Harkov, I don’t disagree with your characterization of “enablers” as the enemy, I just believe that we also need a more practical definition.
It isn’t complicated. The prime enablers are leaders that are not willing to enact policies that do what it takes to preserve our way of life – that refuse to halt immigration from countries that export terror; not severing ties utterly with oil producing countries that export terror; by hindering any economic policies that make the former possible; that interfere in local police efforts to halt violent Islamic protests for the idea of “peace at any cost” while hypocritically limiting counter protest; the mere consideration of Sharia Law; the list is near exhaustive and I’m certain fellow readers (such as The Phantom) can add to this list.
What level of crisis would be enough? I don’t know,let’s see what happens in Europe.
We already know what is happening in Europe. Wouldn’t it be a good idea to learn from that and act accordingly?
” More research on life of suicide bomber individual must done know root and cause of their action and prevention before it is too late ”
OK and JT are reading from the same script.
What a shocker !
Hmm, I have never seen a picture of the two together,could they be … Nah,Justin will never be OK.
You’re right on the money. Neville Chamberlain never saw the coming storm either and placating Hitler was easier than ringing alarm bells. The question I would have is where is our equivalent of Winston Churchill ? All our politicians with few exceptions are hoping the problems will go away if ignored. Still looking for the root cause. Most bloggers here could guarantee them that the root cause is Islam.
“It isn’t complicated. The prime enablers are leaders that are not willing to enact policies that do what it takes to preserve our way of life…”
Which is why, come October 2015, we all need to vote Christian Heritage: http://www.chp.ca !
Ok, The bullies are not the cartoonists or others that mock Islam and Mohammed. The bullies are still the same people that forced your ancestors to be enslaved to Islam. They are now wanting to enslave us. Study history and seek truth and freedom. You escaped a hellhole; don’t be an enabler for those who want to make the same hellhole here.
“Most bloggers here could guarantee them that the root cause is Islam.”
And anyone with a high school-level understanding of logic could in turn tell you that the simple existence of hundreds of millions of devout followers of Islam who AREN’T violent radical jihadists is sufficient proof that the root cause of violent radical jihadism must be something other than Islam.
Absolutely, Foucault! Just as anyone with a high school-level understanding of Foucault’s Special Logic could tell you that the existence of hundreds of trillions of E. coli bacterium that don’t cause illness is sufficient proof that the root cause of E. coli-born food poisoning must be something other than E. coli bacteria.
Your smugness outweighs the significance of waking reality for you, but it doesn’t for the rest of us.
Wherever Islam has spread outside of the ME — France, Spain, in England, India, Chechnya, Holland, Thailand, Indonesia, Nigeria – there have either been terrorist plot or acts of terrorism undertaken in the name of Allah. The last words on earth that countless numbers of terrified non-Muslims around the world have heard are screams of “Allahu Akhbar!!”
In every single case, these theocratic goons self-announce that they’re doing it in the name of Allah – as opposed to, say, Christ or Buddha — but coddled Western progressives like you deign to teach the rest of us that it’s you, and not the Muslim perps, who decide what is and isn’t being done in the name of Islam.
A commenter at Unz.com nails the ‘root cause’ of commenters like you:
People who are unaware of how indoctrinated they are — whether they be Islamists, Moonies, or progressives — cannot be reached or reasoned with. You just recite your own “scripture” ad nauseum.
And anyone with a high school-level understanding of logic could in turn tell you that the simple existence of hundreds of millions of devout followers of Islam who AREN’T violent radical jihadists is sufficient proof that the root cause of violent radical jihadism must be something other than Islam.
And speaking of logic, the maxim holds – not all Muslims are terrorists, but most terrorists are Muslims. The “root cause” of radical jihadism can, therefore, only be Islam; it cannot be anything else.
Here endeth the lesson.
Tell you what Foucalt. Read the Quran and then get back to me. I have read it and anyone with a IQ higher than a bush will understand there will never be harmony with western society as long as they follow the “religion of peace”. Our society is based on Judeo Christian principals where we forgive and turn the other cheek. Where the meek will inherit the earth. Where we strive to educate and tread the path of enlightenment because all life is precious. All perceived weaknesses to the followers of Islam. Whether you believe or not is academic, but show me even one of those western virtues in the Quran which guides Islam. Please just shut up and go away until you have educated yourself. A mind is a terrible thing to waste. Well not with a lot of Muslims because it is easily separated at the neck and a western head has no value. By the way , did you note the thousands of Muslims marching in the streets demanding a end to violent Jihad ? Neither did I.
Some 25 year-old a-hole saw islam 115 years ago:
http://tinyurl.com/p4vzlpa
A little refresher for those who are unsure about the Quran’s viewpoint on violence.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm
After which I will hit the ‘submit’ button 🙂
All good comments which is heartening. Shows me anyway that people are learning what this threat is about.
“Absolutely, Foucault! Just as anyone with a high school-level understanding of Foucault’s Special Logic could tell you that the existence of hundreds of trillions of E. coli bacterium that don’t cause illness is sufficient proof that the root cause of E. coli-born food poisoning must be something other than E. coli bacteria.”
Actually, in point of fact, the “root cause of E. coli-borne food poisoning” can indeed be identified as something more precise, more informed, than just “E. coli bacteria” — specifically, only certain strains (O157:H7, say, or O104:H4). The rest, as you say, are harmless.
OK, but what do you prescribe for the pernicious strains if medication with pinpoint specificity doesn’t yet exist?
Do you simply leave the diseased body untreated?
Y’all remember I’ve been saying the Eurotrash are going to death-march a few million Mooselimbs down to Turkey and dump ’em at the border?
This is what that type of thing looks like at the beginning. Germany, early 1930’s. Throw in a nice little economic crisis and ka-pow, its on.
Just so we’re all clear, and for the low information Liberal trolls like Ms. Foucault there, I don’t view the prospect as a good idea.
Liberals are the enemy. They set the stage for this, and they’re the ones going to be pushing for “more security measures” before it is over. Defeat them, and maybe we can avoid the whole Mooselimb death-march thing.
Ms. Foucault said: “And anyone with a high school-level understanding of logic could in turn tell you that the simple existence of hundreds of millions of devout followers of Islam who AREN’T violent radical jihadists is sufficient proof that the root cause of violent radical jihadism must be something other than Islam.”
Oh, I agree. Absolutely.
The causes are:
A) Mass immigration of unskilled and unlettered Mooselimbs (along with others) to N. America and Europe, for the purpose of propping up tottering socialist parties with their votes.
B) Free welfare and healthcare given to said immigrants.
C) Firearms confiscation and the general disavowal by the authorities of the principle of personal self defense.
Or, to put it in words you can understand, socialists imported millions of peasants from barbaric dumps the world over to come and vote for more free handouts. Those millions of peasants come from cultures that hate and fear ours. They sit around all day watching anti-Western propaganda on TV all day and rot in poverty, because they can’t get jobs because they’re f-ing goat herders in a country with no goats. The trickle of free money the government gives them keeps them firmly stuck in their poverty, while they watch us drive around in $50,000 cars. When one of them finally freaks out, we’re not allowed to shoot back.
I blame -you-, Foucault. You are the cause of our misfortune.
Yeah well, the Swedish government has already acted against that…..
Elections are, de facto, suspended until 2022….because they fear the anti-immigration Sweden Democrats could win.