If it saves one lawsuit: It’s been a beloved winter pastime for untold generations of children, but tobogganing is coming under threat in cities across the U.S. and Canada.
If it saves one lawsuit: It’s been a beloved winter pastime for untold generations of children, but tobogganing is coming under threat in cities across the U.S. and Canada.
Cue the “slippery slope” argument now.
Is it time to riot yet?
Lies, damn lies and statistics.
The Left’s best friends.
Lawyers & liberals ruin everything. I think my first introduction to their treachery was the High Dive being removed from my childhood swim club. I’ve despised them ever since.
The’broomstick up posterior crowd’ have a long long bucket list!
America can do with a few less trial lawyers these leeches are everywhere and theres way too many trial lawyers the lawfirm of VULTURE,SLUG,SNAKE aNAH must be limited
Let’s get to the root causes. Ban hills!
The problem is with the interpretation of law. For example, if you post a “Beware of Dog” sign in Canada, and your dog bites someone entering your property legally or illegally, you have greater culpability than if the sign was not posted because it is assumed that you knew your dog was dangerous, ergo, you are responsible for the damage that it caused. This is where cities have gotten into trouble – by posting signs indicating that they know that tobogganing was dangerous – hence the large payouts to idiots that ignore signs.
In the States, the same sign is supposed to be a warning, and if you choose to trespass, then you are responsible. Where municipalities get into trouble in that situation is by not locking up the dangerous area tightly enough that an idiot cannot enter without permission.
The issue in both cases is that the plaintiff in these cases tries to evade responsibility by entering in the first place, and then suing for consequences that are obvious to most people. If you see a sign that says the dog might bite, then don’t enter or face the consequences. If the city posts signs saying that the slope is not suitable for tobogganing, then don’t run a tube or toboggan down the slope or face the consequences. Both of the above behaviors are obviously mentally defective, but our society is raising an entire generation that has not been faced with hard consequences and believe that they are invincible and that if they suffer loss, it is not their fault, and therefore, someone should pay.
We, as a society, must return to a real understanding of personal responsibility, and appoint judges that are not sympathetic with the obvious risk takers. Ignorance is one issue, but a lot of bad results could be stopped by common sense, not law fare. Physics always works…
Next thing you know they’ll ban ‘bumper riding’ on snowy streets:)
It just never ends does it ? If you enjoy it, there will be activists out there fighting to eliminate it. They make more noise than the people enjoying it so they will win and are empowered to go on to the next potential threat to our well being. Activists never quit. When they have ridden one horse into the ground, they simply change horses and continue the battle to save us from ourselves. They have no life of their own but certainly enjoy the power trip from running yours and mine. Yes……..we need a famine.
Creating generations that are risk averse. But I guess that is the point.
the rise of the middle class, the pendulum has swung too far. Time for a correction, and a famine would do the trick.
They don’t have this issue in Saskatchewan right? heh
People sue cities because brain and spinal cord injuries are EXPENSIVE, and cities have money. Ferinstance, a couple that won $2 million for their paralyzed child could easily burn through that in two years, depending on the injury. That’s a conservative estimate btw. Hospital bills are gotta-see-it-to-believe-it high. Basic bed is $1K per day, that’s $365K in a year and they haven’t even done anything yet. Throw in some fancy neurosurgery and a few bed sores, you can top a million bucks before you know it.
Solution Part #1, TAX CUT. Now the city doesn’t have money, no point in suing. You can’t get blood from a turnip.
Solution Part #2, PRIVATE HEALTH CARE. If nobody has two million bucks to spend, hospitals will not be charging two million bucks.
Its a service, not a birthright. They charge whatever the traffic will bear. Shop around.
Oh, and Solution Part #3, don’t take risks you aren’t willing to pay the freight for.
Life is hard. Wear a cup.
I was once told by a lawyer that was teaching a ‘law for engineers’ course I had to take that the courts have taken the view that the side that can afford it must pay regardless of fault. In other words, you are expected to be insured against morons doing stupid things, and your insurer must pay out when some idiot inevitably does something stupid.
He also said that if you were ever involved with a pedestrian hit and run, make sure you back over them to make sure they’re dead. Cripples cost more.
These lawsuit-happy morons won’t be content until we’re all in rubber rooms 24/7. We’ll have no economy left by then, however, since economic growth requires risk-taking and that’s being progressively sued out of existence as we speak. Don’t know who will finance the rubber rooms in any event but it’s doubtful the trial lawyers will ever give a hoot.
With all those dangerous tykes hurtling down hill and fouling up the commie regulator’s risk-free utopia, can it be long before those deadly fools who turn themselves into a kamikaze projectiles on ski boards or skis be targeted by the safety nazis?
Mein Gott these prog utopians will never be satisfied until they’ve sucked all the joy out of childhood.
I can tell you one thing, getting inside a tractor inner tube and getting rolled down the tobogganing hill is a bad idea.
ANDLLETS US THE FIRST THINGS WE DO WE SHALL KILL ALL THE LAWYERS. William Shakespear
Hills? Try a Massey 35 tractor with 100 ft tow rope. That thing could top 20 mph with the toboggan hitting maybe 60 mph cornering. No matter – one of the other stupid things I did was bound to kill me. Funny thing – it didn’t. One positive – I grew up not being a sissy.
those wonderful contrarian days on the treed side of Mount Royal in Montreal in the 70’s!
everyone else slid down the lame-o bald side of the hill. It was exciting on the treed side
and no lineups never.
There were a few hazards and bumps and a sharp turn and then a cliff.
rumbling downhill on gravel, and then voila, the Montreal General Hospital,
which was required on one occasion.
“Creating generations that are risk averse.”
That is exactly the goal. Risk averse people do what the state tells them to do.
Don’t ride cycles, skateboard, rollerblade, ski, skydive, or any other activity that involves having fun with speed or gravity.
And remember, when an agent of the state tells you to shelter-in-place or receive a mass inoculation, do what your wise rulers tell you to do. Risk is risky.
In response to “What do we do with people who refuse to take responsibility for their actions?”,
Farmers invented cities.
“Let’s get to the root causes. Ban hills!”
Too late, they already got rid of them all in Saskatchewan.
I believe the host of SDA may have some insider info on this sort of stunt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv1D28m48Yo
and in summer…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6fBaQL3CsA
I doubt the control freaks in all levels of government will stop at this ban, they’ve still got to justify their existence and pay/pensions.
My only solution to this overreach is to always be aware that as a member of a jury, you’re sovereign and maintain the right to either convict or not, regardless of instructions given by those within the legal realm. Including the reason that you may feel this sort of law isn’t a just law and perhaps the gov’t should butt out of the ski hills of the nation.
and…
I don’t recall any incidences of near death on a toboggan hill prior to the introduction of genetically modified foods / organic anything. Someone can graph this for the slow kids in Hamilton.
“In the past, people might have embraced a Wild West philosophy of individuals being solely responsible for their actions, but now they expect government to prevent dangers whenever possible.”
And that exactly, ladies and gentlemen, is the real tragedy here. Cradle to he grave, sustained servings of the nanny state narcotic. And the junkies will panic at any prospect of the shortage.
No problem ! You want feel of snow gravity of small slop of hill take you, feel kid again, then ask city toboggon make faked one, or ask Canada wonderland in Toronto sleeping in winter wake up built new winter machinery control by motor make fake or use real snow but toboggon be motor controlable with no risk of accident main issue is third law of physics and gravity pressure make it fun. I do not like snow. I never saw snow until I become 19 years old, when I have moved from my warm city with 48 degree centigrade in summer! Living in canada were difficult for me in winter now I used to it but still not like cold or ski or snow playing.
Imagine the liability issues if you ban something! That means it’s lethally dangerous. Almost as dangerous as salt and trans fats dangerous.
My Dad brings home one of these and we get 7 kids into and used it for years.
Unbelievably fast and slippery.
Nothing could touch it for fun.
It also taught us very well when to bail out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jlOKGNTO2Q
We need to bail on the nannystate ride nobody asked for.
Murray Hill….and skiing down Claremont Ave. when the 104 couldn’t grind it’s way uphill in the snow. You HAD to stop at Sherbrook, or you’d end up as an east or west bound hood ornament.
Winters in Montreal 1965-1978.
WARNING. WARNING. The following task was performed by experienced over-inebriated experts. DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS!!!
Picture a snowmobile racing (and sling-shooting) a tire tube (with people in it) down a hill. At the bottom of the hill about a 16 foot cliff to the frozen lake below.
Because experts were involved, no one was injured.
I still miss my lawn darts.
How does that work? Do you put hula hoops on the hill and try to hit them with the darts?
“These lawsuit-happy morons won’t be content until we’re all in rubber rooms 24/7. We’ll have no economy left by then”
Back in the 70s Colorado ski operators fought back against crippling insurance rates that were caused by jury awards in skiing injury cases. The state legislature passed a law that really limited the amount that people could be awarded in ski injury claims.
That’s what our provinces and states need to do – pass a Recreation and Sport Liability Act that limits liability for property owners when someone is injured while undertaking a recreational activity.
If they’ll ban guns from law abiding citizens, they’ll ban anything!
Don’t ban toboggans. Ban lawyers. Then make the loser pay and the Lawyer match it. If that doesn’t work, try the Shakespearian suggestion.
Sitting idle at a stop awaiting the receiving clerk to come sign my delivery chit for a ladder I was delivering I was reading the big orange tag emblazoned across the one leg.
It started with WARNING! Then proceeded to unfold in a book form of several paragraphs and chapters along the side of the ladder leg detailing all the DO NOTS, DON’T AND BE ADVISED warnings in the careful instructions on what not to do with the ladder.
I came away with the distinct impression it was unsafe to merely be in the same room as a ladder much less deliver one to a bunch of carpenters.
And why the hell would anyone pay money for such a lethal object?
Trial Lawyers gone from chasing ambulances ina VW Beetle to chasing pizza trucks ina streach limo their leeches in america