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Time to get a Nanaimo address to vote these haters out!!!
A great example of the fools within, they have been shamed into submission by Ezra the Crusader, they really do look like a pathetic lot, no amount of apologizing can take that away.
Good for Ezra. He has become quite a fighter for freedom.
Trouble is, the local councils across the country are full of these left wing scum because of the apathy of the general public.
These eight councillors have shown themselves to be completely ignorant of Canada’s Charter of Rights and Freedoms and are devoid of common sense. Pattje is a bigot and his (their) recent back-pedalling (as well as Kipp, Anderson, Brennan, Ruttan, Johnstone, Greves and most of all Bestwick) is only a desperate attempt to pander for votes in November. Nanaimo voters will not forget this fiasco!
loved Ezra’s summary. Pattje has his feelings hurt and is very sad-but only after Ezra’s campaign. Pattje’s own hateful resolution and the total disregard for proper protocol don’t seem to bother him much. All freedom loving Canadians owe Ezra a huge thank you.
My dad remarked that folks who were successful were generally too busy to be on council.
IOW councils are using composed of folks without a real job or a business…..with few exceptions.
It appears that for Mckay, regardless his failings, has the Mayor’s job in the bag…if his is so minded…I bet he is.
This is a perfect example of how the Nazis came into power. I have had the “slippery slope” argument with liberals so many times but they can never see the unintended consequences of votes like this. Had the gay alliance one this battle it would be shutting down Christian businesses next. Followed by people getting pushed into box cars.
I am amazed somebody Dutch who grew up in Holland during the German occupation would be part of this. Then again as my Dutch friends says “wooden shoes, wooden head, wouldn’t listen.”
One might have thought that Fred Pattje would have been more interested in bring forward a motion to prevent any and all muslim events …. why???
Well …. Muslims regularly torture, mutilate and execute gay men …… for being gay.
Here is only one of thousands of examples
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2013/06/lgbtq_muslims_seek_sexual_asyl.html
Christians, on the other hand merely disapprove of the life-style, but not much more ….
The dolts on city council have not idea what they are doing other than thinking they are important members of Nanaimo society.
It is Christians and conservatives in general who are being persecuted nowadays. We need to step it up …. fight back …. LIke Ezra did for us … we should have done it ourselves.
The slippery slope of PC extremists that attach a “perceived” bigotry to anyone thinking or opposing “their” opinions.
The actions of the City Council was an example of the “extreme” bigotry practiced by ignorant people who don’t recognize the hate imbedded in the PC agendas. The logical fate of mindless morons blindly following a fascist agenda (Hello CBC)! The hate mongers, race baiters all have a dysfunctional agenda
“I am amazed somebody Dutch who grew up in Holland during the German occupation would be part of this.”
Some of the Dutch were collaborators.
They were even enough to form the 23rd SS Volunteer Panzer Grenadier Division Nederland.(although it never had much more than brigade strength)
It needs to be remembered that the Liberals and NDP have political machines to get their people elected from the national level right down to the civic level.
It’s long past time that conservatives did the same thing.
What I found very amusing was that the fascist councillors tried to claim they didn’t say what they actually said. But it’s all on tape. Ezra should go through every word and then put the councillors, one by one, on the stand of public scrutiny as to which words they meant and which they didn’t. For them to even TRY to say their stupid resolution had nothing to do with religion (and specifically, Christianity) is positively Obamaesque!
Oh….and the councillors who voted for the resolution should be required to pay the “undisclosed damages” out of their own pockets. Surely they must have either had legal advise on the matter prior to the vote and ignored it or didn’t bother to get legal advise. Either way, they breached their duty as councillors and should be forced personally to pay for it.
“wooden shoes, wooden head…”
Q: Why do the Dutch wooden shoes?
A: To keep woodpeckers away from their head.
Totally pathetic to see these 8 bigots falling all over themselves to see who could be the most PC to please the b.l.t. & homosexual community. Their apologies are hollow words with no sincerity or meaning, just a rush to pull the covers over their heads, until next time. Hopefully the citizens of Nanaimo will dump these eight in November. Once again, Ezra shows us the little man can do great things.
I have to laugh when the default description of this behavior is fascism. This is classic socialist/communist behavior and I guess fascist. My inclination would be to describe it as socialist/progressive behavior. Responsibility for such things is conveniently side stepped by the fascist label.
An interesting stat would be how many municipal seats are acclaimed each election. The NDP more than any other party uses municipal and regional district government as a stepping stone to senior government.
Nanaimo’s recent by-law was based on the homophobia attack that all those who do not agree with that lifestyle are confronted with. I do not apologize for finding gay pride parades disgusting exhibitionism. I am not a practicing Christen. Not proud of that. The influence of Christians is grossly exaggerated as most churches are empty and many looking at closure. Life lived by the 10 Commandments is history for the vast majority.
Made my day! Ezra is a glimmer of hope within the wasteland of our media
Your comment on the unfortunate down side of certain persons during the German Occupation of Holland noted.
I would suppose that when a powerful force subjugates a sullen population, there are always exceptions.
I did a little research on the Ann Frank tragedy. As all will know, this innocent little girl was hidden for eight months by brave Dutch citizens
Someone betrayed the hiding place for 60 guilden. This was found to have been paid by the Dutch Green Police. They worked with the SS troops and Gestapo. I know in the Hollywood film, there were harsh Teutonic shouts as German troops smashed the doors with rifle butts.
As wicked as it was, in actual fact the Germans just came in quietly and were informed Ann Frank’s father has served in the German Army in WW1.
At first they were respectful, then the others moved in to the scene. She and her family died in the concentration camp.
They have never found the scoundrel who betrayed the Franks. You may know all of this, but there seem to always the collaborators with a powerful occupier. This of any occupied nation.
Often wonder what would have happened in my native England if…..
I’m not Canadian though my grandparents were (or at least they came to the U.S. from Canada. And just to be clear my last name is McKay). My impression of Canadians is that they are proud of being “reasonable” people. Also forgiving. The interviews about the events in Nanaimo show that this results in passiveness. Pitch forks and burning in effigy followed by immediate recall is what I think should have happened.
When I saw the first news about Nanaimo, I could easily have pictured that guy Pattje (the guy that introduced the resolution) in a black uniform with two lighting bolts on the hat and sleeve….. probably the accent helped that picture but not only the accent, also the cold dead eyes as well. If it looks like a Nazi and talks like a Nazi, it probably is a Nazi. And, in consideration of his stated position on GLBTs, possibly a closet gay like several of that goose stepping hierarchy were.
A secret confidentiality agreement ….. and that’s okay with the people of Nanaiamo????!! Please! How are you going hide the payout when the city budget is published for the people to look over. Oh wait, that’s not going to happen either. And what’s a couple of million dollars anyway….. after all we said we were sorry for our “mistake” and rescinded it and your share was small anyway. (Yeh, you’re right, sorry I got so excited …….. do I appear reasonable still?).
We need Government but government (any government) is not to be trusted ….. EVER!
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Sounds like Nanaimo council themselves are being “hateful”
Delighted to hear that Ezra can ‘marshal the troops’ and shame Nanaimo City Council into behaving responsibly.
Your assertion wrt to Christians being ‘on the outs’ of modern society are gravely misplaced. There are plenty of Christians who live their lives quietly and respectfully in service to others. Perhaps you are traveling in limited circles.
As for the mayor’s bumbling apology, and so called hurtful allegation via Ezra, in respect of some aspects of National Socialism a few historical examples should suffice:
Well for completeness perhaps certain members on Nanaimo City Council should educate themselves about Christians, no less Jews, who have also been tossed to the ‘government curb’. A couple examples:
Saint Maximilian Maria Kolbe, O.F.M. Conv., (Polish: Maksymilian Maria Kolbe [maksɨˌmiljan ˌmarja ˈkɔlbɛ]; 8 January 1894 – 14 August 1941)
was a Polish Conventual Franciscan friar, who volunteered to die in place of a stranger in the Nazi German death camp of Auschwitz, located in German-occupied Poland during World War II.
Irena Sendler (née Krzyżanowska, also referred to as Irena Sendlerowa in Poland, nom de guerre Jolanta; 15 February 1910 – 12 May 2008)[2] was a Polish nurse/social worker who served in the Polish Underground during World War II, and as head of children’s section of Żegota,[3][4] an underground resistance organization in German-occupied Warsaw. Assisted by some two dozen other Żegota members, Sendler smuggled some 2,500 Jewish children out of the Warsaw Ghetto and then provided them with false identity documents and with housing outside the Ghetto, saving those children during the Holocaust.[5]
The Nazis eventually discovered her activities, tortured her, and sentenced her to death, but she managed to evade execution and survive the war. In 1965, Sendler was recognized by the State of Israel as Righteous among the Nations. Late in life she was awarded Poland’s highest honor for her wartime humanitarian efforts. She appears on a silver 2008 Polish commemorative coin honoring some of the Polish Righteous among the Nations.
Both of the above were Catholic Christians.
And lastly a Protestant Christian Dietrich Bonhoeffer:
4 February 1906 – 9 April 1945
Dietrich Bonhoeffer was a theologian, martyr, a spiritual writer, a musician, a pastor, and an author of poetry and fiction. The integrity of his Christian faith and life, and the international appeal of his writings, have received broad recognition and admiration, all of which has led to a consensus that he is one of the theologians of his time whose theological reflections might lead future generations of Christians into creating a new more spiritual and responsible millennium. Dietrich Bonhoeffer was a German theologian famous for his stand against Adolf Hitler and the Nazi party. His beliefs and convictions ultimately cost him his life in a Nazi concentration camp. Dietrich Bonhoeffer was one of the most famous theologians and martyrs of the 20th century.
“If you board the wrong train, it is no use running along the corridor in the other direction.” — Dietrich Bonhoeffer
When I hear some idiotic assertions about the ‘criminality of Christians’ from a town council member one can only palpably laugh at the ignorance and monumental stupidity.
Cheers
Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
Of course they some of them are hateful. Just listen to Jim Kipp describing Christians as a criminal organization. There may be some elements of that in Rome, but most Canadian Christians are good people who try to live by the ten commandments … those are basic rules that help keep us civilized … not much more than that.
Just consider how much Fred Pattje must hate Christians to bring forward the motion to allow HIM to be judge and jury for anyone who wants to rent the conference center for an event …. This motion allows city council to judge whether or not you are acceptable to THEM.
George Anderson is just stupid … he is early 20s, no life experience, ,not particular skills or business experience … from high school to politics. idiot.
The rest are silly pappagallos at best and hateful communists at worst.
These fools have harmed the reputation of Nanaimo, and that will keep some investment as well as some people from wanting to come here.
They no not what they do.
Thanks for your interest in Canada’s tom foolery.
Fred Pattje is not a closet gay … he is openly gay and lives with his other man in Departure Bay area of Nanaimo. That’s fine … we don’t care what people do in their personal lives … so he enjoys a life style that would get him killed in many parts of the non christian world. Irony is lost on him.
You would think he might want to extend the same basic courtesy to people who are ‘openly’ Christian. Again, the irony is lost on him.
Anyway, he is losing sleep and that’s fine with me. He will lose his seat on council in November, but he still has his … mmm I think an air canada pension to enjoy …. I think he spent his working life as a clerk of some kind for Canada’s Airline. I could be wrong on that … but this guy ain’t no mental giant as we have some to see.
This whole deal is far from over for these guys …. Ezra got a great show out of it, but there will be a lot of fall out to come.
In all the fooferah, I THINK I heard Ezra being told that the the venue was advised that event was cancelled before the vote by council. Did anyone else hear that, and if it is true, is that a material fact in this matter?
I hope many Christians file a Human Rights complaint against Jim Kipp. It was vile hatred against an identified religious group. He should experience the wrath of the CHRC just as Ezra and many others have felt.
But alas, no one will as that is the Christian way, forgive those that trespass against you.
Good job Ezra.
These guys didn’t come to their senses; they folded.
This is why it is important to push back whenever something like this occurs.
Councilman Kipp is just the worst. Whatever his personal feelings on Christianity, the indefensible and inflammatory statement that Christians were criminals should have had him ejected from the council.
“Trouble is, the local councils across the country are full of these left wing scum because of the apathy of the general public.”
Ken, my man, you bulls-eyed that one.
We are doomed until this lazy, gutless, stupid public figures out that putting an X on a scrap of paper once every four years and then walking away expecting positive results, is akin to putting two eight-year old boys with a book of matches into a barn full of straw with the hope that the end result will be lower insurance premiums.
A fellow who was originally from the Netherlands told me this one.
Why do they bury Dutch people 6 feet down?
Because down deep they’re really nice people.
It was great to see the mayor grovel around but it was beautiful to see the “mover of the motion” squirm in his own juices.
We all must keep supporting SunNewsChannel. This would never have come to light without them and Ezra.
It’s worth the money to sign up for their package on TV.
Re: that event was cancelled before the vote by council
That’s right.
And people who already pay for Canadian cable news should not have to fork out more cash to add Sun News to the collection. Thanks to Harper the cable providers must give us all the Canadian news channels.
On Telus Sun just suddenly showed up last month on 803 — after giving me the run-around for a couple of years.
Fascism is a very close cousin of socialism and communism. In fact, if you were to really look closely you would find that the party in Canada today that is most closely aligned with fascism is the NDP.
“In Hitler’s Germany the system of socialism differed from the Russian system only to the extent that the terminology and labels of the free economic system were still retained. There still existed “private enterprises,” as they were called. But the owner was no longer an entrepreneur, the owner was called a “shop manager” (Betriebsführer).
The Betriebsführer did not have the right to take the profits for himself; he received what amounted to a salary, and if he wanted to get more he would, for example, say: “I am very sick, I need an operation immediately, and the operation will cost 500 Marks,” then he had to ask the führer of the district (the Gauführer or Gauleiter) whether he had the right to take out more than the salary which was given to him. The prices were no longer prices, the wages were no longer wages, they were all quantitative terms in a system of socialism.
Every enterprise was ordered what to produce, in what quantity, where to get the raw materials and what to pay for them, to whom to sell the products and at what prices to sell them. The workers got the order to work in a definite factory, and they received wages which the government decreed. The whole economic system was now regulated in every detail by the government.”
Sure sounds like the NDP to me.
And here I always thought that the lighting bolts on the hats and uniforms meant they were electricians!
Hmmmm….so perhaps Pattje never really got any calls from anybody about this conference and maybe it was him and him alone that pulled this stunt. In any event, those councillors who voted for the resolution should be required to PERSONALLY pay the damages that they forced the City of Nanaimo to pay. They either didn’t listen to legal advice which would remove them from any protection as a result of their office or they chose to ignore it….which would remove them from any protection as a result of their office.
It’s hilarious how they can’t bring themselves to say they were wrong and are sorry.
Instead they beat around the bush, saying they were sorry that people were offended and sorry this got so much publicity, and that they don’t hold beliefs that — on May 5 at least — they clearly did.
hope some one can find a way to bring criminal charges against these asshole
Another remarkable Christian: Corrie Ten Boom. She did remarkable work in Holland hiding Jews, but was eventually set to a detention camp. She did survive, but her sister did not. Her autobiography is a most moving story: http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/fighting-back-a-1.html#comments
Yikes — wrong link pasted in the above post. Here is the correct one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrie_ten_Boom
In Pattje’s defense (not that he deserves any kind of defense), Ezra interviewed him last night and he seemed very contrite. He seemed especially upset that people had characterized him as a Nazi — including some Dutch people who wrote to him. I think the incident has been a real eye-opener for him.
I am so jealous that Canada has Ezra Levant. Sun News is killing it compared to the weak tea in the US. Investigative reporters in the US are still putting on their makeup and Ezra is wrapping it up.
One thing puzzled me about the Dutchman. I have never seen a Dutchman make a decision without months and months of wrangling.
This what an effective unbiased Media willing to go into the lions den can do. Ezra Canada’s pit bull for democracy scores another win. I think this is a positive story in we now have these bigots on the run. In this case the system did work.
People responded with little urging to this miscarriage of Justice by these clearly collectivist Councillors except for one who stood against this cabal of proud bigots, who let power go to their heads..