Until the situation is under control, Twitter is likely your best source on breaking half truths. Thread is open, be respectful.
Until the situation is under control, Twitter is likely your best source on breaking half truths. Thread is open, be respectful.
Not just your best source for half-truths but also unparallelled for totally unfounded BS.
I saw this video of what appears to be the view from someone’s house (no terrible images, language therein and some rather thick-headed commentary, I think):
http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/three-rcmp-officers-killed-two-wounded-in-moncton-n-b-1.1853749
Being far away from Moncton, I will wait for better reporting.
Sounds like civilization is crumbling.
Course the political policemen have not done much to discourage the urge of otherwise sane citizens to despise and fear them.
From fear and hopelessness of any honest resolution comes cordite propelled fixes.
Australian newspaper’s coverage including many photos including two of the perpetrator and an insane online post, I take it from Facebook:
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/world/rcmp-on-hunt-of-gunman-justin-bourque-after-multiple-shootings-in-moncton/story-fnihsmjt-1226944168831
Cudos for deleting the original first comment.
That was discussing at a time when people were being killed in our country.
Yeah well, I concur with your very diplomatic post…
I predict this will inspire a $**t storm of hand wringing….this event not yer post.
We will have to see what set this off…if we ever find out…I expect the truth will be the last casualty.
“From fear and hopelessness of any honest resolution comes cordite propelled fixes.”
Yeah, that’s it. This is a fix caused by the “political policemen”. What reality are you living in? And any citizen who defaults to despising and fearing police isn’t “otherwise sane”.
On the contrary, fearing and despising police is a perfectly sane behaviour. If you think they value your rights, then do a little experiment and try to show them less respect than they feel they are entitled to. Just try recording them when they feel like not letting you do it. You’ll see how quickly you will be injured and then charged with a slew of Orwellian charges. And don’t expect that any one of them will break ranks and tell the truth on your behalf or defend you.
https://www.facebook.com/justin.bourque.5682
I don’t trust the RCMP. If these guys were shot trying to take guns away from legal owners – they got exactly what they deserved, in my opinion.
I don’t trust the media to cover this either. Last time they ran into something like this, Zimmerman was a 300 lb. white supremist with an M16, and Trayvon Martin was a candy gobbling 5 year old. The facts didn’t come out until it got dragged into court and Zimmerman was actually a quiet, lawful citizen of mixed ancestry and St. Trayvon was actually a feral drug dealing adult.
Time to stash some guns and ammo, because just as sure as God made road apples and liberals – something stupid this way comes.
Those are some of the lyrics to “Hook in Mouth” by Megadeth.
I’m following the twitter hashtag and, predictably, some gun control people are already chattering. When will they figure it out?
Allow me to use my clairvoyance to predict the official RCMP narrative when it is released to the press–
1) the gun this nutter used just happened to be the same one those evil Haperites would not allow the hoplophobic horsemen to prohibit and confiscate from lawful owners (actually it’s not but we will say it is and the public is too stupid to tell the difference between a select-fire military firearms and a black squirt gun).
2) Moncton will declared in a state of emergency, be locked down and evacuated while Mounties use the supposedly destroyed registry list to kick in doors, ransack homes to confiscate lawfully owned hunting rifles of the evacuees – just to be on the safe side.
3) If those evil Harperites had not destroyed the pointless tax sink-hole and make-work mountie project called long gun registry, this would never have happened (we won’t let on we kept copies when ordered to destroy it)
4) The suspect was an average every day guy who gave no sign of mental illness or wasn’t under treatment or on medication or anything like that – he could have lived next door to you – it’s best to put the entire male population under suspicion and blur the distinction between armed chronic nutters and deer hunters in the public mind – citizens simply can’t be trusted with guns because they are misused by criminals, this is the dyslexic narrative – the goal is an administrative monopoly on the use of defensive force under a police
state control regime.
I grieve with the families of those slain for their loss in this senseless crime, you have my deepest sympathies but law abiding firearms owners are not to blame.
Dear Jake….Eyes wide shut?
Did you listen to the Chief’s of Police explaining their selective enforcement policy?Idle no more? Caledonia? Property rights?
Did you recognize “Serve and Protect” is selective?
Your taxpaying property owner ain’t in the protected class.
Laws enforced without impartiality become tyranny.
Seen any of the High River thieves and vandals get prosecuted?
Speaking as a man raised to know and respect my local police, the decline is accelerating.
Bill C68 declared open season on those of us who used to be the primary backup and support for law enforcement.
The lawlessness of our bureaucracies is rampant and spreading.
Enjoy the Kleptocracy you currently seem to deny.
The senseless slaughter of RCMP members is horrible.
Madness spreads as civil society collapses.
Jake, you’re insane and babbling nonsense, where have you been for the past 20 years?
John, that was very well said, as was Occam’s comment.
What with Caledonia, Idle No More, and High River, it does seem that it is becoming a situation of them against the general public.
However, hopefully they get this guy alive so that it can be determined what set him off. Although as sasquatch says, truth will be the first casualty, and agendas will rule the media.
That twitter feed is pretty useless. Twitter as usual I suppose. Still, “people using social media for this event” seems to be as important a story as a mad mans actions. I suppose it is good to know that one womans five year old said the police should poo on the guy.
I went thru his FB page. Nothing out of the ordinary that I saw. Typical pro-gun anti-government spiel. Something set him off tho. It is sad for the families of the fallen.
There is a conference scheduled for NB today that cancelled the whole thing due to this. Really? The guy is not likely to show up at your podium.
They report every supposed gun tote’s white male stereotype under the sun, even threw in the Christian home schooling.
Well thank god Obamba freed 5 Al Qaeda generals into the free world, maybe they’ll save us all from the little white psychopath who forgot to take his meds.
There is some truth in what you say about there being pent up animosity towards an ever decreasing police respect for the public their privacy, dignity, rights and property. The new police function operates under rules of engagement which belong in a war zone or to an invading/occupying military force, not domestic protection of constitutionally empowered civilians – the militarization/politicization of police has unintended consequences in wide public disrepute for these constant abuses of police authority and excessive force
– still, this is no excuse for the heinous crime we saw this week – but it does provide a possible motive. An increasing number of RCMP shootings have been from some nutter with an axe to grind against police – makes sense why police are nervous with an armed increasingly aliened population and unpalatable laws/policy to enforce.
Police should question the wisdom and motives of those who are pushing these civilly deviant agendas on the profession – they SHOULD side with the public when it expresses concern with the political direction policing is taking. The public and police have a long tradition of mutual respect and cooperation in upholding law and order but this is in deep peril now as police leadership pushes the profession in a dangerous un-civil direction.
What is the point of all this useless nattering?
Pretty childish if you’re not living in the community to take this opportunity of sadness and fear to spout all your random thoughts on any subject that might even remotely have a bearing on this incident.
Just pray the guy is caught and no one else killed.
“The public and police have a long tradition of mutual respect and cooperation in upholding law and order”
The “police” is the public.
They were never supposed to be a private membership of militarized forces to herd the public for private interests other than the interest of common public safety.
So the official version of events is that someone, who happens to be a 24 year old with no military training was wearing camouflage (oh the horror!, ban camouflage and register Hawaiian shirts at once) and carrying a “.12 gauge” pump a “high powered rifle” (which is what? a riffle?) a bow (! Ban them as well and slingshots too) and a knife (ban ban ban and register all forks) was walking on the street. Someone called the cops. The cops knew the nature of the call they were responding to (meaning they were not ambushed) and he still managed to get a drop on at least five trained professionals, kill three, wound two more and then escape apparently unharmed? Am I the only one who finds the official narrative rather improbable? Even assuming that the cops had only handguns with them (they probably carried more firepower in their trunks), even assuming that their training wasn’t perhaps of the highest order what are the odds of an outcome like that?
I agree with a lot of what you are saying. But I am not going to assume without additional information that that individual committed a “heinous crime”. Indeed given multiple recent cases of brutal police abuse I will not at the moment rule out the possibility of self-defence. Unlikely as it may be. I am waiting for more info. Clearly the cops were unprepared for the response they got, could it be a case of “you will respect my authoritah” gone wrong? Maybe it could. Given the track record there is exactly zero reason to, without further information, make an a priori assumption that the jack booted thugs have become instant good guys.
On public vs police I defer to Knight 99.
After they catch the shooter in Moncton I wonder if Justin Trudeau will try to understand the root causes of his feelings of alienation and exclusion. I ask because it seems the young man was really upset about recent gun confiscations among other things. Or do those root causes not matter as much?
If the goons running on the street of Moncton cared at all about public safety they would tell all Moncton residents with access to firearms to lock and load.