Now is the time at SDA when we juxatpose!
Assembly of First Nations, May 16th;
“Today’s RCMP report reaffirms the magnitude of the crisis of missing and murdered Indigenous women in Canada and clearly indicates the urgent need for action by many different players, including First Nations, governments, police services and others,” said AFN Regional Chief Alexis, who leads the AFN work in the area of justice and policing.
“We had the blessing of the chief, we had the blessing of the organization to come in and do a review,” said Pringle. “Then when I go out to Yorkton a week ago, I’m told by the FSIN that, ‘You’re an outsider. You don’t have any jurisdiction here. And we don’t have to talk to you and we’re not going to accept your report.'”
h/t Norm
The best thing for natives would be to leave the ghettoization of reserve culture and gain independence and the the risks associated with freedom. As it is they degrade themselves constantly begging for handouts and having the bulk of it stolen by corrupt band administrators – what a pathetic existence being dependent on government and denied the freedom of self realization. Ya gotta know bureaucrats love the res system – dependency is slavery and slaves are easy to control.
So, we’re supposed to help solve this terrible situation but we’re not allowed to enter their domain? Is there something to hide? If the RCMP have no jurisdiction there perhaps the Chiefs better look inward for the answers. What’s left to do aside from doling out money for all the modern technology, TV’s, snow mobiles, four wheelers etc, etc, things many working people who pay taxes cannot afford.
Being above the laws of the country and not accepting help or protection from our policing services means we’ve got an impasse, nothing can be done, help yourself, solve your problems, stop the blame game.
I heard a snippet of the characteristics of those who would do these nefarious deeds to aboriginal women….however, I think they forgot to list “aboriginal male”.
So, from a great distance I need first to sort and decode the acronyms. I encounter the budget woes that are actually caused by fund misappropriations. Then I look at salary expenditures and proposed staff layoffs. 7.2 million divided by…. ooooooooh.
It’s good to be the king!
So now I know who chews their moccasins. They must live like the Sultan of Brunei. Now as to the resistance of outside interference regarding missing women…. oooooooh! I get it.
Soft moccasins.
What Canadian First Nations need do is choose a leader and spokesperson with mature GONADS!
Band Chief Clarence Louie of Osoyoos BC comes to my mind.
He is a clear thinker, progressive and could help solve a lot of issues in regard to native Bands.
Aboriginal Women are murdered by Aboriginal Men, most of the time. Conclusion, start making aboriginal men pay for there crimes.
Hmmmm, let’s see here. A brief skim of the report (download the pdf here – http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/pubs/mmaw-faapd-eng.htm) shows that:
29% were murdered by a spouse and 23% were murdered by family members, 30% by acquaintances and 10% by ‘other intimate’. Only 8% were murdered by strangers. Seems the RCMP don’t want to state the obvious; there is a problem with aboriginals killing aboriginal women.
Another little nugget; “Those accused of killing Aboriginal females were more likely to have consumed an intoxicating substance (71% compared to 31%).”
This ties in with the facts that spousal violence is more than twice as high among aboriginals as compared to non-aboriginals
(http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85-002-x/2011001/article/11415-eng.htm) and that aboriginal men make up a disproportionate number of those incarcerated for violence.
So how, pray tell, is the justice system, an external force that is shut out and shunned by the aboriginals themselves, supposed to fix a cultural problem?
The leftists that want an inquiry (as though it would be anything other than victim theatre) are deluded. We all know that police investigating crimes on reserves are met with nothing but stonewalling. Showing up to investigate missing women and being told, “go F– yourself whitey” at every turn quickly demoralizes an investigation.
There’s not much to be done, when EVERYONE is uncooperative. Most RCMP that are stationed on reserves are just itching to do their time and get out. It’s no mystery why women die there, just as it’s no mystery why poverty is so prevalent there.
God forbid that you actually speak the truth though.
I agree with the comments above. There is simply no point in pursuing an inquiry that will take years and cost millions, likely hundreds of millions, when we know already that natives will never participate in a meaningful way and surely won’t support the findings if they show aboriginal women are primarily harmed and murdered by aboriginal men. It is my understanding that the reaction Pringle refers to is something similar to the cooperation police receive when they are doing an investigation for a missing aboriginal woman at the time of the crime when there is a possibility of finding them alive. Cooperating with the investigation is free, they won’t even do that.
Natives have proven time and again that inquiries never resolve any issue as far as they are concerned, however they do provide opportunity to demand compensation.
Sadly, there is simply nowhere to go with this. As with all aboriginal issues, neither party – native or government – is ever prepared to face hard truths with any honesty.
After you remove the number of Aboriginal women who are involved in the sex trade and the number of Aboriginal women murdered by another Aboriginal I suggest there is only a small number of Aboriginal womens’s deaths left.
Do the statistics give us these numbers?
I favour a full inquiry into missing native women, as well as how native people live on reserves. Not the pre-concluded racist whitey’s to blame type inquiry, but a true examination of what’s happening bottom up within the native communities and top down of what’s happening with the native leadership and why they’re failing year after year, decade after decade, to improve their people’s lot.
We don’t need an inquiry for natives to deflect blame for the actions of the leaders and others in their communities. That’s already happening and until the natives make that true examination nothing will change.
I’m still skeptical there’s even an issue here. The last time I ran with what numbers I could even find, aboriginal women were going missing at a rate exactly proportional to their population in the various territories – in other words, aboriginal and non-aboriginal women were equally likely to go missing or be murdered.
Also, often the absolute numbers of both population and missing/murdered women are so low that percentages are misleading – intentionally so, IMHO.
Lastly, conflating “missing” with “murdered” exaggerates the problem. People in low-income or blighted rural communities run away to more attractive environs all the time. There’s no attempt to distinguish between “I’m not going home because I hate my family” and “I ended up in one of Robert Pickton’s pigs”.
I don’t think this dog hunts, and I don’t want to see any more of my tax money spent on it.
The Gomery inquiry, which had a narrow focus in a limited geographical location. It took 2 years from start to the delivery of the final report and cost $100 million.
So now people want a national inquiry on a generalized problem. So how long will it take and how much will it cost? Pretty much guaranteed that bar associations across the country are 100% behind the idea of an inquiry; it would be a windfall for lawyers.
What I see coming out of it is an opportunity for the usual suspects to trash the police in general & the Mounties in particular.
At the end of the day we’ll have massive report with all kinds of social engineering recommendations. The obvious solution to the problem – that is assimilation – will be studiously ignored.
Another Indian inquiry? Utterly useless as long as the elephant cannot be mentioned.
Indians should be assimilated the same as anyone else,but hundreds of Native politicians in power on those absurdly named “First Nations” will do everything they can to prevent that and protect their power base.
From Indian education to health services to social services to Rez policing,there can be no efficiency or honest delivery of service in a culture where nepotism rules supreme.
This inquiry will give another retired Judge or pol the chance to grab the limelight for a couple of years, make big payola to the tune of a thousand bucks per day or more,and in the end make recommendations no one will follow.
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly expecting a different result, so…..
‘You’re an outsider. You don’t have any jurisdiction here. And we don’t have to talk to you and we’re not going to accept your report.’
Oh, ok. I’ll just keep my tax money then, shall I?
[Cue Leftist screaming RAAAAACIST!!!!!]
how about all the missing or murdered Indian …men?
just a guy said: “how about all the missing or murdered Indian …men?”
FASCIST!!!!
/.sarc./ (need it be said?)
The Indians want every amenity the white man has to offer, and want the white man to pay for those amenities, but Indians want nothing to do with the white man and want to be left alone. The various levels of government cater to this concept at the cost of around $ 9 billion a year. Indians continually claim they are not Canadians and want the whole country back. Whites give them white lawyers to make it so and a white left leaning judicial system to enforce laws based on vague stories that usually have talking crows and impossible verifications. Whites have problems understanding why this is not making the whole divisive culture better, and continue to increase funding to Indians. I feel a intense bout of laughter coming on, so I’ll leave it for now to check on my white privilege. Have to write this all down because future historians will never believe it.
Related.
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/aboriginal-affairs-ministers-ask-premiers-to-look-at-60s-scoop-adoptions-259793311.html
“Adoptees from the ’60s Scoop have said their time for reconciliation has come and they want an apology from the federal government. Robinson, himself a residential school survivor, said what they experienced was just as traumatic.
“In my case, at least I had other Indian boys and other Indian kids my age to be around,” Robinson said. “In the case of these kids who were adopted out, they had nobody. They were a brown face among a mass of white faces either in the United States or in foreign lands.
“In some ways, they had it a lot worse.””
So in other words, they would like some additional compensation for the “horror” of being raised by non-aboriginal, presumably white families. They probably endured such indignities as; going to school, being properly fed and clothed and God knows what else.
How is this demand not racist?
Jethro, right now , as in today, in most if not all provinces you cannot adopt a native child if you are not a native.
Though in special circumstances, the band can grant permission. The special circumstances are usually if the child is severely disabled.
This institutionalized racism came about because of the ‘scoop’ and the laws that treated adoption as something special between parents and a child regardless of race.
The native leaders complained to the gov’t that the adopted children were visiting the reserves and that was causing undue stress.
They had tales of sober guardians/parents, clean living conditions, and sleeping without fear.
It was much easier to curtail adoption than to fix the problems.
I think that may be part of their culture that we spend so much to preserve. It certainly isn’t their architecture, literature, science, or most anything besides drum, dance, song, and superstition. Before contact, they lived largely a nomadic life, transporting their goods on tree limbs dragged by dogs because there were no horses and no one thought of the wheel and axle combination.
But if you can neglect the facts, they are special people.
Exactly, and very well put.
Those that benefit from the status quo, both red and white, will make sure nothing ever changes.
“they want an apology from the federal government.”
So issue an apology.
As a great man once said, “It never hurts to say you’re sorry …. even if you don’t mean it.”
Cut their funding period. Those left on the reservations can live like the old days in teepee’s.
This gravy train won’t survive after Immigrants out number Whites.
Best they get their act together now, before the white man is out numbered. with any treaty claims with them.I’m sure Muslims will pay what they think of as Jizra to pagans.
The Chinese will laugh when they come hat in hand.
This can all end if people had the courage to tell the band chiefs to stick it. If they think they are above people questioning their flawed culture or fixing the aforementioned culture, they are more than welcome to take care of it themselves.
Typical of the victim industry to demand an inquiry likely to keep their lawyers and advocates on an government payroll for a decade to come up with a thousand page essay to express the obvious.
Its not racism that killed the victims it was the preditors that are enabled by the indian act.
Or do they not see the irony of an obese chief going on a hunger strike of soup while camping out at a five star hotel in Ottawa and being shuttled around town in an Escalde to protest the plight of her “people” because the federal government won’t give her more money.
Ok I apologize for the run on sentence. ..but thats all.