When Work is Punished: The Tragedy of the American State

Prepare yourself before listening to this… calling on her self-admitted Obamaphone, Texas welfare recipient Lucy, 32, explains why “taxpayers are the fools”…
“…To all you workers out there preaching morality about those of us who live on welfare… can you really blame us? I get to sit around all day, visit my friends, smoke weed.. and we are still gonna get paid, on time every month…”

More explained in “In Entitlement America, The Head Of A Household Of Four Making Minimum Wage Has More Disposable Income Than A Family Making $60,000 A Year.”

34 Replies to “When Work is Punished: The Tragedy of the American State”

  1. I noticed this pattern, going way back, as my earnings slowly climbed from the 20s, the 30s, the 40s, and the 50s. At the end of each year, I had not moved forward. Beginning in 2005, I decided I was going to cut my income back to the smallest I could manage with, to get by. By the time I finally extricated myself from the corporate world, it was 2008. More’s the fool me, as all of my part time work opportunities, that had been previously abundant, evaporated.
    This strategy only works if you are willing to accept succor from the government, not merely reduce the amount of your money that gets sucked away in taxes. Under the current economic and political circumstances, the only way to get by is to go fully onto the dole, or go back fully onto the corporate path, then hand over over half of your earnings. I have given my experiment 6 years of tremendous effort, and I don’t see any middle path.

  2. The Food Stamp Program, administered by the U. S. Department of Agriculture, is proud to be distributing this year the greatest amount of free Meals and Food Stamps ever, to 46 million people.
    Meanwhile, the National Park Service, administered by the U. S. Department of the Interior, asks us “Please Do Not Feed the Animals.” Their stated reason for the policy is because “The animals will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to take care of themselves.”

  3. I love it ! Enjoy the decline people . Nothing will or can get better until “good people do nothing”.

  4. “Welfare” was brought in at a diferent time for a different people.
    It hasn’t worked in Africa, and it will not work anymore in western nations.
    One way or another western welfare will come to an end, it’s simply a matter of whether it’s a conscious or unconscious demise of the “welfare system”.
    Neither way will bode well for Liberal urban centers, it’s their own Frankenstein and it will devour them eventually.

  5. Lucy is right.
    Given the choice, be a slave 50%+ of your working time, or not, what would you pick? There is no moral high ground in paying into the system. The more people that do what Lucy is doing, the faster the beast will starve.

  6. I have contemplated at length, for my grandchildrens’ sake, on how best to live in today’s world.
    Obviously, the way my parents taught me way back in the 50s no longer works, and has become almost suicidal.
    I’ve concluded that none of the “new” ways are conducive to raising children, or creating any sort of continuity in a stable, civilized society. IOW, we have to become “diversified”. For the past 50 years, they had it right. We had it wrong.
    For guys, a nomadic life is best: a biker. But without a gang, and the pursuit of money through crime. Possessions include: the bike, and a few minor household items, a sleeping bag, and a jacket. Freedom, travel & women. Not a bad life.
    For women, early life revolves around a pole. Cash money. In 5 years, a full funded retirement plan is easily achievable. Late twenties, hop on the back of the aforementioned bike and have the same freedom and travel as he.
    It sure beats 40 years in a cubicle and then dying in a hospice with a rubber tube up your ass.

  7. Obviously, the way my parents taught me way back in the 50s no longer works, and has become almost suicidal.
    Quite true, however what the grandparents taught me way back in the 50s about life in the 30s has served me well, for a frugal, happy, healthy life. I have as many toys as I can use and time to use them. Of course I don’t live in a city, that life “has become almost suicidal.”

  8. I believe the US will snap out of this socialist stupor. When and how will be very interesting. Canada flirted with the destructive ideology, but woke in the 90’s, when our debt caused the Economist magazine to doubt our solvency. The US’ wakeup call will come much later, much deeper down the well than Canada’s.
    Canada’s stupor was 27 years. For the US … set the alarm for 2035?

  9. People must be expected to make economically rational decisions. If welfare pays better than work, then only
    the perverse will work. Aaron Clarey strongly recommends taking all of the welfare that is available.
    It is worse than it appears at first sight. In St. John’s NL the welfare people are provided with
    decent clothing and housing – fine up to a point, as one doesn’t like to see children poorly
    dressed. There is a strong incentive for the welfare people to have children, as the more
    children they have the more benefits they garner. This will lower the intelligence level of
    the population fairly quickly.
    Don’t you love modern Canada?

  10. Canadians aren’t as armed or as divided as Americans. A total economic collapse could get very ugly south of the 49.

  11. Poor people are poor because they don’t spend the money they have wisely. Giving them more money to spend on booze, smokes, lotto, drugs, cellphones, junk-food, bling, rims…,etc. is supposed to be good for the economy, since the money goes right back into retail, at least that’s how the socialists justify it. In their minds it’s better than sending the money overseas to feed other people or blow things up.

  12. If a whole lot of Americans want to kill each other, I don’t have a problem with that. It’s their country.

  13. Lucy should realize if the government has the power to give, it has the power to take or not give. Having said that, if the economy tanks and there is so much government money to go around, be rest assured that that those who work for whatever level of government, will make darn sure that they’ll get paid first before a welfare recipient does.
    For Chris from Lakeland, Florida..my thinking is the same as yours minimize the income. After filing the yearly personal income tax and seeing what is left over and then out of that there is municipal taxes, fees and levies I wonder what is the use. If one has a job, one works for the government (taxes), financial institutions (mortgage, CC’s loans etc) then finally for yourself in that order.
    I now live in a province that now rivals Quebec for taxation levels, and it has been a feeding frenzy at the municipal level to raise property taxes and such.
    As I have often muttered to myself, “Now I know why politicians and rich people don’t want us to have g u n s.”

  14. The last thing you want to be caught with is a gun. Then they have an excuse to kill you. The brutalizing class has been trained real hard to deal with armed insurrection – shoot to kill. What they don’t know how to deal with is unarmed insurrection. Even the best trained policeman, soldier or SWAT team has a difficult time justifying killing an unarmed person.

  15. We Canadians have been living this dream for near 60 years, all hail Pierre The Idiot.
    Some people keep saying,that taxpayers are stupid.
    Productivity in Canada falls steadily over this same time period.
    The last two decades, noticeably, even the federal finance parasites acknowledge this.
    We are not stupid, we know we are being robbed, so less is produced.
    A classic example is trying to get tradesmen to work overtime, to complete a project on time.
    Problem, the overtime moves your tradesman into the next tax bracket, they get less money in hand for working more.
    Even the Conservative govts broadening of the tax brackets did little to help.Too little too late.
    Government has compensated for the lack of revenue by passing all kins of regulations imposing ever more idiotic reporting requirements onto contractors.
    Each action has expanded the underground economy.
    Pretty simple math,to earn 100 dollars legally, one must charge $250 to pay govt taxes and impositions.
    Welfare is fraud.
    Charity can only work locally.
    Government flunkies,NDP,Liberals,Red tories, explain that, We must pay welfare or these “needy people” will steal,rob and riot.
    Uh Huh, that is extortion, but our gutless pollies pay the Dane gold, its not their time and production they are giving away.
    Socialism works great,until you run out of other peoples wealth and suckers.

  16. “Even the best trained policeman, soldier or SWAT team has a difficult time justifying killing an unarmed person.”
    Tell that to Randy Weaver’s wife and infant son.

  17. I detest the welfare state as much as anyone here, but I think you’ve fallen for a hoax. The woman isn’t real. She’s either been hired by the producer of the radio show or she’s voluntarily chosen to dramatize the decadence as she perceives it.

  18. I was watching a ‘Elvis Returns to Tupelo’ doc on PBS the other night. Elvis born 1936 and grew up on the wrong side of the tracks in Tupelo. Many pics and video of the post WW II period. What struck me was the number of young blacks standing around on the streets. I had to ask whether things had really changed that much in 70 years.

  19. Deb >
    “Canadians aren’t as armed or as divided as Americans”
    What?
    Where did you say you were from again?

  20. America’s issues have nothing to do with guns or being “Armed”. Lots of civilized countries have a taxpaying citizenry owning plenty of guns, without the murder rates of the US.
    What they don’t have is an “entitled” drug culture pushed along by race pimps telling them that their OWED something for nothing.
    Couple that with open borders, Liberalization through communist ideals, and a corrupt crony capitalist government, all sold through a billion dollar entertainment industry coupled with government educational systems designed to dumb down Americans, mass legal and illegal drugging of the population, a Government media complex designed to confuse and mislead, and you have the social mess that the US has become today.
    Don’t blame gun owners for the mess, or the fact that they want to protect themselves from it.

  21. I’m a Canadian who lives in America now. You wouldn’t believe the arsenals in the homes of Americans. Or . . . maybe you would. It sure opened my eyes. I believe in the right to bear arms but it’s a bit much down here. And when I say Canadians aren’t as divided, I mean it. We Canucks chiefly just yell at each other, but tensions down here seem to go a step further sometimes.

  22. I think we’re on the same side for the most part, Knight 99. I’m not blaming gun owners, and you make good points about what the powers that be down here have done to inflame the tensions. I just can’t get my head around the weapons I’ve seen here, and I was raised in a Canadian home full of hunting rifles. It’s just different down here.

  23. Rick,,, I would more than willing to bet things would get very ugly in Canada very quickly. we Canadians are armed we just don’t yap about it. the influx of third world immigrants would be the first to suffer. then all those city folks who think food comes from a market, after that all bets would be off.

  24. Deb >
    “I just can’t get my head around the weapons I’ve seen here”
    My comments aren’t meant to be confrontational, only educational.
    I completely agree that many American’s own some fantastically “large” weaponry, like tanks that actually shoot, and .50 CAL anti-aircraft machine guns that can shoot down satellites and UFO’s.
    My point was, when was the last time you saw any of this “weaponry” used to commit violent crimes?
    It doesn’t happen, because the people who own them have not only been vetted for mental illness and criminal records, they have demonstratively proven time and time again to not belong to the plethora of anti-American groups and agitators that I mentioned before.
    The same anti-American/ anti-Freedom groups coincidently who want to take the “guns” away from the law abiding “patriots”/ Constitutionalists.
    I know it sounds like a tired old cliché, but truly, it’s those big guns and those people that own them which stand between you’re freedoms and tyranny.
    Instead of fearing them, you need to embrace them and realize thier on your side.

  25. Like you, I’m okay with the good guys having these weapons. The good guys aren’t the ones killing people in malls and theaters and “robberies gone wrong.” But the nasties in the U.S. can get the weapons, too, which makes me nervous.
    I do agree with the points you made about the people needing to be able to defend themselves against tyranny. But if the reds and the blues really start shooting at each other down here I’ll be dragging my family back up to placid old Canada quicker than you can say ‘eh.’

  26. Deb >
    “The good guys aren’t the ones killing people in malls and theaters and “robberies gone wrong.” But the nasties in the U.S. can get the weapons, too, which makes me nervous.”
    http://www.psychintegrity.org/isepp_statement_on_the_connection_between_psychotropic_drugs_and_mass_murder.php
    The sad fact is, “bad people’ will always have guns, and you (society) will never have the ability to take them away from them any more than you can take ALL the drugs out of American society – See War on Drugs.
    Otherwise, you have a good plan to bug out back home, just realize that if there ever was a second American civil war including the obligatory martial law it will also bring economic depression and massive amounts of refugees into Canada as well. Those refugees will not be the American patriots that “love their country”.

  27. I agree with you. I’ve read stuff about the connection between psycho drugs and mass murderers and I think that’s a vital point people need to be making – thanks for the link.
    As for the future — here’s hoping someone practical, patriotic and economically wise gets voted in as POTUS in 2016, but I’m not counting on it. Most likely we’re looking at more “open borders,” more gov’t dependence and poverty, a worsening economy and more stirring up of class warfare and racial tensions.
    Got to go for the day. All the best, knight99.

  28. There are a lot of guns in the U.S. And yet, the heavily armed, almost no gun control states of the Rocky Mountains and upper Midwest have lower murder rates than their Canadian neighbors. Why is that? Maybe the guns really aren’t the cause?

  29. Clayton that can not be.
    My Libtard and NDP “leaders” all assure me that my weapons can leap into action and kill, unaided by a human mind and hand.
    Course they have no idea if there might be a difference between a weapon and a tool.
    But human intent never seems to register in their world.
    Liberalism/progressive mentality is a mental disorder.
    John Stuart Mill was a liberal in his day, what would our libtards call him?
    A TEA party speaker.

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