The Dutch have just announced a massive reform of their welfare system, designed to reduce dependency and put a new emphasis on work. For example, welfare applicants will now be required to prove that they spent at least 4 weeks actively searching for a job before they become eligible for any assistance. And once they begin to receive benefits they will either have to work or perform volunteer community service. Dutch welfare recipients would be required to take available jobs even if they had to move or commute up to three hours per day.
Personal responsibility.
What a concept!
The US cannot cut back on welfare,
without having the cities burned to the ground.
Having to work or perform “volunteer” service is a bit of an oxymoron but good on the Dutch. Having to move or commute up to 3 hours per day would send the NDP over the deep end if suggested in any Canadian province.
How much proof such as this welfare collapse in the Netherlands, will it take before the leftists understand that their philosophy is a big loser by design. It is a negative approach to running a society. It is a system that accepts that a large percentage of the population is completely and eternally unable to feed itself. It is a horrid philosophy that is totally made-made …. Ya … man-made-global-welfare … has a familiar ring.
You cannot have losers in great numbers living off the dwindling number of winners AKA productive hard-working tax-paying individuals who work in the private sector.
Only when some people are forced up onto their hind legs will they bother to work for their own survival. And work for it they must. it is past due for this sort of change.
These requirements will come as a great shock to many imams and their congregants.
As they view such payments as the jizya, the tax that infidels pay to Muslim in order to be allowed to live in submission.
I think this is aimed at the Muslim population that is overtaking Europe and especially the Netherlands. It will be interesting to see what backlash comes from that group.
Looks really impressive on paper. Did Hitler sign it, too?
Really, will the socialist social services sector bureaucrats actually do their job and enforce these rules?
Yeah. Sure.
This is just a peanut, a crumb, a ploy.
If we only had the political will to implement this in Canada. Calling all premiers.
Cut Welfare!qb48gt! Why the Perpetually Angry would RIOT!! Can’t have that…or can we.
But that might be a good thing.
Part of the “plan” even.
As welfare state run out of OP’s money, this reform will spread.
Kleptocrats do not like competition and slave labour from the beholden is only fair.
Course this will never work as long as politicians buy votes with our money.
I project Detroit, as our chosen future, Libtards progressive to the end.
Wonder how this would play out on a reserve?
Hey Phil, I’d suggest that you jump on the gravy train and take up farming, but past experience tells me that you know full well how empty your rhetoric is. You wouldn’t last the winter on a Canadian farm.
For some reason, Harry Brown’s book and what it has to say about what happens when the Welfare Cheques bounce comes to mind. Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!!
Mentally ill people often become more agitated during Christmas. Just FYI in case ya didn’t know already.
With the exception of having to do community service or volunteer work, BC already has stricter rules to obtain and/or maintain receiving social assistance. SA applicants in BC, must attend a government run, privately outsourced, work search centre every day for the first month and at least once a week there after. The work search sessions are a full day, everyday, minus weekends. The work search centre reports attendance and absences to the Ministry-the only acceptable absence is work. When a SA clients finds a job, the privately owned work search centre is paid on a sliding fee scale. If the social assistance applicant finds work within the first month, the centre is paid $4000.00 (per client) that secures work during this time frame, after one month, the rate paid to the work search centre for each client is reduced. In most of the centres, depending on the contract secured with the Ministry, there is no differential in payout to the center whether the social assistant client finds part-time or full-time work. These work search centres stand to make much more money now that prostitution is about to be legalized and deemed a legitimate career option with the bonus of requiring little or no education.
And the whores will be rejoicing.
I can’t believe it, phil still ranting about farmers. I have been telling him for years to BUY a farm and get in on the gravy train. He should be sending me thank you letters for the way that I dragged him into prosperity by buying a farm and getting him out of his mommy’s basement. Heck, she may have done the work on the farm as she probably was of the generation that actually worked for a living and not been envious of those that do.
As will the whore Johns, who are not ever threatened with a beating if they don’t participate-unlike the “whores” whose wages will be going to the new pimp government and their enforcer pimp or madams. “Like Islam, there is no compulsion in prostitution” – John Every.
How about requiring recipients to pick up one fifth of a week’s assistance at an office between 7 a.m. and 10 a.m. five days a week? After all, that’s when people who earn and produce that money get to work. It might turn out to be habit-forming.
Liberals want power and control over people much more than they want to ‘feed the world’ or some other bromide, this will shatter their dreams.
Ah jeez Fill, would your theory also apply to the PEI spud farmer, the NS fisherman, the NFLD turnip grower and the NB fiddlehead guy?
So come clean with us Fill….are you a Toronto metrosexual or a Queerbecer? It’s OK ya know…..
Aw poor ‘lil silly putty, all he’s got is “hate” to occupy his idle fragmented mind.
Must admit it is rather amusing to see one so jealous, nasty and impotent at the same time. Always that special ‘one’ in a crowd.
Googled his name,lots of Brown’s,but none matching a book like this…Name of the book,thank you.
If they want to cut social spending, which is a very good idea, first they have to make sure the economy provides enough opportunities for work. And the way to do that is to remove government intervention. Let wages and prices find their free market level, kill any subsidies to businesses, and so on. Unless they do this, the welfare reform measures might not make much of a difference in savings.
Spent some years over there, including the past summer, and learned to read and understand most of the language somewhat.
What they have finally figured out is the producing class is being taxed out of the ability to procreate, and other natural resources are also drying up. Add in the effects of decades worth of socialists confiscatory fiscal policy, and the whole house of cards, based as it was on pre and post war population growth and mortality, but constructed mostly out of the marxist essence of envy and hostility, collapses. The producers were raised on centuries old Calvinist values; produce, save, build, and charity through private acts and through the church. The state took on that last function, and socialists never looked beyond one election cycle. And population homogeneity changed a lot. The last two to three generations have been bled dry on the altar of PC lefty ideals.The only reason for change now is political reality is overtaking the socialists, and the intertubes have helped circumvent MSM lefty blather. People can see what is going on in their family, job site, neighbourhood,and pay check.And they can get their observations validated by others on blogs etc. So called unsavoury political parties are getting more and more votes as frustration grows about the true inequality. And as I mentioned the natural gas wealth is running out, which underwrote a lot of what other wise would have been much more red ink. Sort of like Canada in many ways don’t you think?
nv53 @ 1:58AM, you are absolutely right on all points, but for most it will be impossible to grasp. Like explaining a laser to a 16th century swabby.
Too far a each for most.
The hypocrisy of the small dead mind is that they believe this should only happen to people and groups that they don’t like.
Gee Phil, I guess you better pay back all that money farmers paid towards the education of you and your git.
Hey Phil, Lets meet for coffee to discuss this some more. You name the time and place, I’ll be there.
Portage and main- that explains a lot.
Unlike you phil, I don’t live in a fantasy world. I’m a corporate farmer that has paid 100’s of thousands of dollars in taxes over the last couple of years, to pay for the welfare system that you live off of. Did you go to school? Ever been to a hospital? I paid for that buddy.
Now explain to me what welfare money I have ever taken. I’d really like to know about what I’m obviously missing out on.
Why do people keep responding to Philup McCrackin? He is likely on the verge of some new big business deal or scientific theory or some other of the major achievements he has no doubt achieved in his life that allows him to pontificate about farmers and the risk free life of leisure that they live.
So? Some of those cities need to be burned to the ground! Think of the jobs re-building.
According to the Government Accountability Office (GAO):
“Cumulatively, almost one-fourth of the total value of direct payments made during this period [2003-2011] went to producers who did not, in a given year, grow any of the crop associated with their base acres—as they are allowed to do.” (1)
Observed the Heritage Foundation’s blog: “The payments may have been easy money for some farmers, but nothing is free: A total of $10.6 billion in taxpayer dollars, from 2003-2011, was doled out to farmers who didn’t grow any of the crop for which they received subsidies.” (2)
1. http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-12-640
2. blog.heritage.org/2013/12/05/farm-bill-money-nothin-want-subsidy/
A most astute comment nv53.
The two must go together: welfare reduction and a reduction in productivity destroying government intervention in the market.
You have some very distinguished company too:
Ludwig von Mises, who in my opinion is the greatest economist of the 20th century, stated that in the unhampered market there is no involuntary unemployment.
Rizwan- those are American subsidies and do not apply to Canadian farmers
phil- LOL! you are going to have to be a lot more specific than that. Any idiot can go on the interweb and make up numbers. You seem to have a talent for that. As far as preferential tax treatment goes, that is just a lie. I pay the same taxes as any other corporation. I pay more property tax in one year than you likely earn.
Chalk that up to alimony pill, for all the years of sponging done at portage and main.
And a Merry Chrismas to all.
Phil- Merry Christmas, or whatever you celebrate.
AgriInvest? I don’t use it. I have far better options for my investments. My shareholders would drop me like a hot tamale if they found out I did such a thing.
Try again?