20 Replies to “Federal Inmates Face Pay Cut”

  1. Introduction to the responsibility the average Canadian has? Pleeeeeeease, if that was even remotely true welfare rolls would be cut considerably. Prison workers Unions could take a paltry cut on their parastic lottery winning type wages and benefits , that might actually make a difference. Bahhhhb this is an easy target, that almost no one will sympathize with, but it will make no dent in funding. Hey rocky watch me pull a rabbit out of my a$$.

  5. You know what would really save money? Sending fewer people to jail by not incarcerating people for victimless or petty crimes. Makes more sense than cutting a farcically low day-wage.

  6. A pay rise? Frankly, they should consider themselves grateful the Queen sees fit to feed and water them at all instead of having them depend on whatever relatives and rich liberals trying to buy their way into heaven are willing to provide out of their own pockets and the kings of the jailyard see fit to let them keep.
    The Queen’s guests can apply for a pay rise when their productivity more than covers the cost of keeping them housed, fed and watered and they are helping cover the cost of everyone else’s national dividend. Till then, the choice of working hard from dawn to dusk or starving to death in their cells, because everybody who knows them well enough to bother helping them has realized they’re not worth trying to help, will go far towards teaching them something resembling humility.
    Then, maybe, they’ll turn to the Lord, and He will forgive them.

  7. “Other jobs can include trades like carpentry, cabinet making, auto repair, welding, plumbing, landscaping, culinary, painting, canine training and forklift operation.
    Inmates are paid for the work and can register apprenticeship hours towards a trade certificate.”
    This type of comment always makes me curious as to the success rate of the program. So, what percentage of inmates participate in these programs,and how many graduate,then go out and get a job at their trade?
    I asked this question on a thread involving “Insite”,as to the rate of “cure”. A person with the program said the cure rate was 20%,pretty dismal,in my opinion.
    It’s a good idea to train prisoners for the outside world,as it is to have them work while inside,but I wonder how many take advantage of this opportunity.
    Sometimes well meaning kindness is met with contempt.

  8. attempting to assist relatives outside of jail with the paltry wage
    Oh please. If assisting family was a big concern, they wouldn’t be in jail in the first place.

  11. It is true, LAS, that we could save money by incarcerating fewer people for “victimless” and “petty” crimes (although we may not agree on which crimes should be placed in those categories), but we should consider the deterrent effects of the alternatives to incarceration (as well as the cost for “support workers” and other hangers-on in the criminal justice industry). While I would not support a return to corporal punishment in schools, perhaps it should be considered by the criminal justice system. Even more attractive would be a “restorative justice” system that would fully compensate victims of “petty” crime for their losses and any hardships associated with the crime, *and* that would provide that compensation from the wages, benefits, and property of the malefactor.

  12. Three good meals a day (+snacks) and all the recreation they can handle is hardly a deterrent to crime. When you consider the number of decent law abiding citizens that struggle to make ends meet, it’s time to look at this depository for human garbage and make a few changes that reflect the cost to society. I feel most people deserve a second chance, depending on the severity of the crime, but when they flaunt the 2nd, 3rd etc. chance it’s time for a transfer to some labor camp in the sub arctic with only air access.
    http://www.torontosun.com/2012/02/28/it-costs-113000-a-year-to-lodge-a-federal-prisoner-report

  13. So LAS, it is my opinion that someone who is operating a vehicle impaired and does not injure anyone while operating said vehicle has committed a “victimless” crime. So such a person should not be fined or charged with impaired driving – in my opinion.
    What is/are your “victimless” and “petty” crimes?

  15. If we don’t have a problem with slave labour in other countries, then we should not have a problem with our prisoners taking a pay cut (as if they should get paid in the first place).

  16. China has a solution that saves it plenty of money.
    Trial in the morning, execution at noon, immediate family whereabouts uncertain by the next day.

  17. All things involving consensual drug commerce and prostitution etc are victimless. First or second time shoplofting and the like should be met with more restorative/rehabilitative measures like public flogging. Throwing some 18yr old in prison for not much makes him much more likely to be a worse criminal in the future.

  18. Prescriptive laws are always a bad business. Yes, given the huge numbers of people that drive impaired each day, it’s a safe bet that most of them don’t harm anyone or themselves. However, when such harm occurs, it often involves the maiming or death of a completely innocent person. No amount of punishment or reparations can replace a child or a parent to their family. So, in order to deter bad behaviour by the people who are truly out of control after drinking, we make all drinking and driving illegal, even though the vast majority of such drivers don’t hurt anyone. Just punishing the drivers who actually cause harm is a case of barring the door after the horse has bolted.
    On the other hand, the mere act of smoking a joint doesn’t represent anything harmful to another human, no more than drinking a beer or having a glass of wine. (And, unlike alcohol, excessive pot intake does not result in aggressive and violent behaviour; most people go to sleep.) Yet we spend billions each year persecuting and incarcerating users and small time pot dealers, instead of legalizing, taxing, and controlling the distribution and putting billions into government coffers. LAS has an accurate point.

  20. LASsie, has it occurred to you that in prostitution it’s the PROSTITUTES who are the victims? In the drug biz it’s the buyers who are the victims.
    There are some crimes not worth pursuing. Any and all weapon regulation offences would be among them. But our jails are not filled with guys who broke those regulations. They save those for when they want to stomp on somebody like Ian Thompson or Bruce Montague.

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