74 Replies to ““16,000 rounds of factory-loaded .40 S&W caliber, 180-grain jacketed hollow point””

  1. The Phantom – Much of it has to do with the way the USA came into being, I think. There was a fundamental distrust of centralized power; witness each state and commonwealth having its own army (viz National Guard), the criminal law is a state responsibility and so forth. There is a basic fear of One Big Police Force, hence many individual police agencies.
    And, again, the quantities are *not* that large. If each cop fires just 100 practice rounds a year (pretty low, actually, if you want to be good with the thing), add two zeroes to however many cops there are – it adds up very quickly. Common sense should prevail.

  2. The Phantom – Much of it has to do with the way the USA came into being, I think. There was a fundamental distrust of centralized power; witness each state and commonwealth having its own army (viz National Guard), the criminal law is a state responsibility and so forth. There is a basic fear of One Big Police Force, hence many individual police agencies.
    And, again, the quantities are *not* that large. If each cop fires just 100 practice rounds a year (pretty low, actually, if you want to be good with the thing), add two zeroes to however many cops there are – it adds up very quickly. Common sense should prevail.

  3. ‘Instead of “Small Dead Animals” you should rename this blog “Kate and her Kooks.”‘
    Posted by: Old Country Boy at August 14, 2012 8:44 PM
    I’m confused. A brief scan of your blog and googled posting history indicate that you’re not a jerk. Are you calling Kate and her minions “kooks” all of a sudden? If so, why?

  5. Black Mamba at August 14, 2012 11:16 PM
    Because, no matter what evicence is presented tp them about the CBD notice, they still believe that there is a nefarious reason for the purchase of the ammunition – even to referencing dictatorial revolution in 2016. They have to be kooks (not kate) and pretty stupid to keep believing this based on a solicitation. Occam’s Razor. The simplest explanation is most likely. Does anybody think that this administration (or any administration) can keep a secret as big as a dictatorial takeoover? If you do, you are a kook.

  6. dmorris,
    your typing 98 Obama campaign was a typo
    but
    then again
    that is probably around the time when his handlers began training him…

  7. Soon over 30,000 drones will be flying over the US physically watching you, as your communications including e-mail, computer, and telephone conversations are listened too. In the meantime the US government (Obamba) has implemented the National Defence Authorization Act (NDAA) allowing the military to arrest anyone they wish without a Due Process, a warrant, or trial for indefinite detention.
    Knight,
    Obama is more “Bush-like” than Bush himself!
    but what is even more astounding is the deafening silence of the left…
    what a bunch of f***ed up in the head a**holes…

  8. Old Country Boy at 9:18 AM – Quite so. What’s amazing is the gullibility of some people. That the Truthers are grinding their own axe is obvious in most cases, but that people keep believing them after they repeatedly fall flat on their faces is incredible. For instance, your mention of the takeover now predicted for 2016 – for years, they were predicting that the Bush/Cheney dictatorship coup was imminent. Oops – it never happened. Prison Planet (just one example) has a lower accuracy rate than newspaper horoscopes, yet you’ll still see very intense people citing it as ‘evidence’. Weird.

  9. Well, I might be a kook. Little do I know about how bureaucratic entities purchase ammo, so I’ll just go with Phantom on this one: “The point is rather, is it reasonable that the NOAA has its own police force?”

  10. Well, I might be a kook. Little do I know about how bureaucratic entities purchase ammo, so I’ll just go with Phantom on this one: “The point is rather, is it reasonable that the NOAA has its own police force?”
    Black Mamba at August 15, 2012 10:33 AM
    Yes, if you understand that NOAA (the O stands for oceanic) has the statuatory authority to enforce international fishing lawe in American territorial waters – sorta like an international fisheries game warden. You don’t read much, do you? Or, maybe what you read does not jive with your pre-conceived myths.

  11. Thanks for the explanation Old Country Boy, could you explain Fast and Furious specifically why guns were given to Mexican gangs by the US government with no provisions for tracking them?

  12. richfisher – How about simple stupidity on the part of those in charge? Seems about right, from all accounts. Real stupid and somebody should get fired.
    Now, how does that link to buying routine quantities of ammo and targets for armed federal agents?

  13. Hey, OCB, alte kaker, there’s a new thread up-top the blog. Favour us with your insights.

  14. richfisher at August 15, 2012 10:51 AM
    This has nothing to do with fast and furious. Not even the same subject, except the word guns or ammunition may appear somewhere. This is a NORMAL, necessary, federal agency purchase for the handful of armed agents it has to enforce our international treaty obligations. Fast and furious was an illegal and poorly run progressive “sting” operation that they f…ed up like everything else they do. And, it was done by an agency that normally carries guns. However, after looking at how poorly they carried out their operation, maybe congress should prohibit them form carrying because of political bias or incompetance.

  15. OCB – “They have to be kooks (not kate) and pretty stupid to keep believing this based on a solicitation.”
    Don’t weasel. Syd B wrote the words, but Kate posted them as a header. If anyone curious about this is a “kook”, (who doesn’t “read much”, ouch!), then admit you’re insulting the blog mistress.

  16. Black Mamba at August 15, 2012 12:45 PM
    I’m writing about the commenters who are conspiracy nuts, not the blog owner or her minions. There really wasn’t anything in the lede except a question, which several commenters correctly answered. Many others went off into a paranoia tangent.
    By the way, Bob correctly answered the other thread question. I don’t feel any need to go into it.

  17. “Now, how does that link to buying routine quantities of ammo and targets for armed federal agents?” Bob
    Yeah Bob, “Fast and Furious” is because the Government guys are just “real stupid”, commenters here are “real stupid” too, right?
    Maybe the Government guys incorrectly posting the tenders for weathermen’s hollow points are “real stupid” too, is that the confusing “link” you’re on about?
    There is no other connection other than they”re “stupid”.,
    Let us know when you figure out why there’s a lot of conspiracy sites on the internet will ya?

  18. “…is it reasonable that the NOAA has its own police force?”
    Or how about the SSA?
    Or the Department of Education?
    Unread kooks, the lot of us.

  19. ricefisher – “Let us know when you figure out why there’s a lot of conspiracy sites on the internet will ya?”
    I could refer you to the number of sites claiming Elvis is alive, but let it go.
    Stupidity is a large part of it.
    Paranoia plays its part.
    The webs make money, which is another.
    Why do people spread other rumours, anyway? It makes them feel important, I suspect.
    That there is truth to conspiracy theories because there are a lot of sites devoted to that would of course an ad populum fallacy of logic.

  20. Ok, what say ya’ll now.
    Social Security Administration To Purchase 174 Thousand Rounds Of Hollow Point Bullets.
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  21. Hey Bob, Fast and Furious didn’t happen because they’re just “stupid”.
    It’s, Evil will always win because good is dumb” not the other way round.
    Gubment can’t even tender a request for ammo or track a gun let alone point and or fire either in the right direction.
    Come see a G20/ Caledonia/or Anti-Israel demo to witness it for yourself.
    Also take a look at Kate’s sub-header “Not showing up to riot” is a failed conservative policy.”
    We’ve noticed and the big gubment clingons have noticed we’ve noticed and they’re stocking up.
    Gubment is too big and history shows it always ends in tears blood and lots and lots of bullets.
    Save the “composite” logic and the tsk tsking, it’s too deadly a topic.

  22. Ugh, People read the actual GSA contract please. IN the SSA request for bid (from Disabled Veteran small business owners) there is a link to an excel spreadsheet. On that spreadsheet they tell you it is going to 41 SSA offices nationwide. Now 174,000 sound like lot however that is only 4,244 rounds per office on average. The actual amounts to each office vary some more some less due to office size.
    Now besides that they have a list of Acronyms in the address and in this case it is SSA/OIG/OI.
    Those Acronyms tell you who it is going to:
    SSA – Social Security Administration
    OIG – Office of the Inspector General
    OI – Office of Investigations
    The rounds are going to the sworn investigators of the Office of Inspector General who go out and arrest people for Fraud. The FBI doesn’t arrest Social Security and Medicare Fraudsters the SSA does that themselves.
    Now why you are seeing a rush to by ammo by these agencies is because the end of the budget year is coming up and if they don’t spend it all they get their budget cut next year. See how it works in DC you get penalized for saving money. That is why they never save and buy consumables such as paper, pencils and bullets at this time of the year.

  23. The purchase of ammunition (however small) isn’t the real issue here, rather that so many bureaucracies have statutory authority to have an armed branch. If dealing with petty bureaucrats isn’t annoying or alarming enough, now factor in large nmumbers of petty bureaucrats with the statutory authority to use armed force against a relatively disarmed public.
    Couple that to the increasing militarization of the police and now link that to the behaviour of police unions and public service unions in the United States since 2008 and you can see where some people are getting the hair rising on the back of the neck feeling. The fracas in Wisconsen where police and public service union members decided to “selectively” enforce the law against protesters (mostly Democrat and union astroturf) who were attempting to block the will of the people via their democratically elected government should serve as a starting point. Eventually they may decide that not only do they “know better” than us, but they damn well will not take interference from the Ho Poli anymore, especially attempts to roll back their wage, benefit and pension packages.
    Far fetched? Maybe (and I really hope so), but the increasing radicalization of the political Left and the rise in incendiary class and race warfare language by the Democrat party could start giving people ideas.

  24. The purchase of ammunition (however small) isn’t the real issue here, rather that so many bureaucracies have statutory authority to have an armed branch. If dealing with petty bureaucrats isn’t annoying or alarming enough, now factor in large nmumbers of petty bureaucrats with the statutory authority to use armed force against a relatively disarmed public.
    Couple that to the increasing militarization of the police and now link that to the behaviour of police unions and public service unions in the United States since 2008 and you can see where some people are getting the hair rising on the back of the neck feeling. The fracas in Wisconsen where police and public service union members decided to “selectively” enforce the law against protesters (mostly Democrat and union astroturf) who were attempting to block the will of the people via their democratically elected government should serve as a starting point. Eventually they may decide that not only do they “know better” than us, but they damn well will not take interference from the Ho Poli anymore, especially attempts to roll back their wage, benefit and pension packages.
    Far fetched? Maybe (and I really hope so), but the increasing radicalization of the political Left and the rise in incendiary class and race warfare language by the Democrat party could start giving people ideas.

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