Now is the time at SDA when we juxtapose!
SDA Editorial Board, December 11th, 2011 – Let this serve as a warning to conservative parties everywhere: that which the left cannot defeat, they will infiltrate.
National Post Editorial Board, February 10th, 2012 – Alberta’s first NDP budget
They even admit that this isn’t their real budget, they’ll do that after they get re-elected. You have to elect us before we can tell you what we’ll do. Who do they think are? Nancy Pelosi?
This election will show just how stupid Albertans really are. I’m hoping not all THAT stupid, but we elect the likes of Naheed Nenshi and Bunko Dave Bronconnier so prospects don’t look all that good.
But as everyone squalls about a deficit the conservatives never mention the 8.5 billion that goes straight to Kwebec every year along with the other 4 to 5 billion that goes to Greentario and the Maritimes. Why lead with your face.
I like the way that editorial called a spade, a spade.
As Enkidu says, it is interesting that Redford uses Pelosi’s tactics.
Hopefully more people will see through the progressive sham of pretending they are conservative and support Wildrose. Although Enkidu’s point about the election of Nenshi and Bronconnier are revealing about the attitudes of the cities.
This is a hail mary budget of a desperate bunch. I can not belive that they gave the Wild Rose Party so much ammunition for the next election.
On a brite note they finally got their heads out of their backsides and ran back to the oil industry.
As far as a sales tax goes, it all hinges on the next election. If WRP does well no way. If they do not then well see.
What is true is the party that brings a sales tax in will be one and done. They would not survive the next election. Since the pcs are just trying to hang onto their jobs right now they would not likely commit political suicide by way of a sales tax.
The Allision Wonderland party is in for a rough ride.
Another good indication of just how far left Alberta’s govt is is that it is no longer the national medians whipping boy.
Time for one of those sweeping political changes Alberta is famous for.
I’m guessing this is why this budget came about; the adults have left the children in charge until the election. It’ll be interesting.
If you want to know what happens to a party that introduces a sales tax, just after an election, but never mentioning it once beforehand, have a gander over the Rockies to see what happens.
Will history repeat itself (HINT: Stop them dead in their tracks first)
For a few years now I have been dumping on the folks of Ontario for being stupid and re-electing Dulltone Mc Slimmy. It will be painful if I have to come on and post an apology because of the stupidity of the folks from Alberta when “Alice in wonderland” REDford verifies HER day in the “ELECTION PERIOD” and wins. We desperately need the Wildrose Party.
Now all you Albertans get a taste of what it is to be a conservative in Ontario. The sonsab1tches we elect who call themselves “conservative” all wear pink underwear.
What you’re left with is the flaming Red NDP, the fire engine Red (and criminal!) Liberals, and the hot Pinko PCs. Frustrating, ain’t it?
So you know what you need to do? Join the conservative party you think has a reasonably savvy leadership, and make sure they represent SMALLER GOVERNMENT.
All the issue voters in the world aren’t going to get Conservatism enshrined in power. Social Conservatism is just more Big Government with a slightly different agenda. This is not going to get us what we want. What will is -less- government with -less- money to spend and -less- employees with time on their hands to bother us.
To date the federal CPC has put the Fear into the federal mandarinate. I’ve heard several media stories about management level bureaucrats being afraid of the unemployment line. I also have a little independent corroboration from an actual Fed bureaucrat who couldn’t say enough about how much damage the CPC and Harper were doing to their bureau, and how this person was going to take early retirement before the whole thing collapsed like a house of cards.
That’s what you want at the provincial level. You’re pro-life, you’re pro-gun, pro-marriage, pro-property rights, pro-self defense, whatever, what you REALLY want is a tiny little government full of guys who are far too busy to extort money from you for their own social engineering schemes. You want them concentrating on the military, enforcing contracts and keeping the peace, to the exclusion of all else.
OTOH, if what you really want is to boss other people around, take their money and their freedom and make them do it your way, join the Progressive Conservatives, the Liberals or the NDP. Whatever your kink is, they’ll get to it shortly.
I think this excerpt from Kelly McParland in the Post sums it up:
“But this time there’s a choice. The Wildrose party, though still largely untested, offers a legitimate alternative to the government, with a prescription for restraint and prudent budgeting that would seem a more natural fit with the traditional Albertan view of limited government and careful finances. That being the case, when Albertans mark their ballots in the next election – expected to be called within weeks — they’ll be deciding on the very character of their province. Is it still the conservative bastion of balanced budgets, free enterprise and individual responsibility, or has it absorbed so many newcomers from outside the province and lost so much of its identity that it’s turned into Ontario West?”
We turned into Ontario West long ago. There’s no turning back now.
This province is toast.
I am just looking for 20 seats to go wildrose. We will finish the job next election.
Nice defeatist attitude you got their Archie.
You might want to try toughening up and come out swinging. It sure beats whining.
“SDA Editorial Board, December 11th, 2012”
You mean 2011.
: The Phantom at 10:38 AM
AHMEN!!!!
As an Albertan, I desperately want this “progression“ stopped. I am a WRP member, the first political party I have ever joined, and would like one simple question answered by any fellow Albertan who expects to vote for Redfords PC’s.
Are you conservative?
Jean Chretien was re-elected several times by telling people what they want to hear, the Alberta PC’s and redford are no different. Chretien gave untendered governmetn ad contracts to his freinds who donated to the Liberals. Alberta PC’s gave untendered government powerline construction contracts to their friends who donated to the PC party. At least 50 prohibited groups are being investigated by elections Alberta for illegal donations to the PC’s and Redfords campaign, but Albertans won’t know the results as the PC’s changed the law to keep the results of those reviews secret. Chretien considered the Libranos the natural governing party. Redford considers the PC’s the natural governing party. Albertans hate Chretien but most of us will still vote for Redford and the PC’s because they don’t call themselves Liberal. Nothing changes until things hit bottom. If we end up with 4 years of Redford we will hit bottom.
Yep, snuck one in there.
Another defeatist comment, this time from m-alta.
Why is there so many who lack a fighting attitude?
Recent poll showed PC’s at 38% and Wildrose at 29% with leadership approval rates roughly equal I believe.
Most Albertans aren’t political and don’t pay any attention until a campaign begins. Once Danielle Smith is on stage with the likes of three hard leftists, then some people will be willing to give her a chance.
Also, the attitude in Alberta is that the PC’s just naturally win so there is not much point in even voting. The PC’s got fewer actual votes in 2008 then the did in 1982. It’s gotten to the point that when phone polls occur, people will just naturally say they’re voting PC, but on election day they can’t be bothered to get out the vote. Last election had a turn out of 40%.
A lot of people are waking up to the fact that “Good old Ralph Klein” is finally long gone. Ed Stelmach was a disaster and Alison Redford is a liberal.
I predict a PC minority of only 30 seats. The entrenched habit voters will still come out and the liberal voters will probably pool their votes to the PC’s this time in order to “stop” the “scary” Wildrose.
With some massive vote splits, this election will be fascinating.
If you want to put an end to these duplicitous left wing creeps who have infiltrated and taken over the PC Party, there is only one solution. It’s to help the Wildrose Party in one way or another. It’s not going to happen by itself. It requires a little bit of you.
I remember a few years back a Unionist who was originally from Quebec telling me that his strategy was exactly that. The NDP would go nowhere so the best way to get socialism going in Alberta would be to infiltrate and institute it from the inside the PC Party. He thought I was sympathetic since I was a transit rider at the time so he probably didn’t realise I was heeding the warning.
Recently, I drew a Chaplin-style mustache on Redhen’s picture in the paper and compared the results with another infamous Chaplin-style moustache wearer. The similarities were frightening.
It’s long past time that we need to get these PROGRESSIVES out of Edmonton.
The last time Albertan’s were apparently “pissed off “, Red Eddie and the PC’s gained seats and left 4 to the opposition. How people vote for the ones they are angry at beats me.
Smith will beat Redford in any debate, but the next election is going to be a fight between the private sector and the public unions with Redford at the helm.
This province still has fight in it, let’s hope it still has reason.
This “Progressive Conservative” party sickens me. Bringing us the biggest government we can barely afford.
http://www.wildrose.ca/
Somewhere in the above website, is the nugget that +90% of additional government revenue has gone to paying civil servants. Not building anything, just folks skimming salary off the top to keep us in line.
No where left to hide.
Campaigns matter and the WRP has a formidable manager in Tom Flanagan. This scrap is just starting.
annie , Quit hiding and fight instead.
Alberta is now as red as Onterrible and will soon suffer Onterrible’s fate of over regulation, over taxation, over spending and government bloat.
Like, who votes PC after Klein lost his populist roots in the second term?
Gotta be a lot of lib-dips in Alberta who either don’t know they’re lefties or who hide out in tory blue cammo to avoid being spat on by their neighbors.
Who wins the title fight?
Is it the guy who enters the ring, sits on his stool and tells his trainer that he doesn’t know why he’s even here? He read that all the sportscasters and fight fans were projecting his quick demise once the opening bell was rung.
Or is it the other fighter who climbed into the ring and who just wants the fight to start so he can drive his fist through the teeth and out the back side of his opponents skull and twirl him around on his forearm and then fling his carcass over the ropes and onto the shocked sportscasters laps?
Winning is an attitude. We are what we think. Think about it.
Can’t wait for WR to gain power and send a bunch of useless bureaucrats off to find productive work. (Or to BC or Sask, where the welfare is easy to get)
The rules and regulations instituted by these parasitic moonbats are getting way too onerous.
Wild Rose was campaigning by phone this week in my area.
My reply, “Yes, you have our full support”!
REDFORD OUT.
Blame Crash:
You’re being extremely naive in assuming that there are enough Albertans who hold true blue Alberta values to actually make a difference at the ballot box.
Have you not followed the last 40 years of history? Every election result since 1971? Somebody keeps electing these “conservatives”.
The Wild Rose may poll well in the places where the true Alberta lives, but everywhere else, and this is most everywhere else, the forces of entitlement reign supreme.
Did you not see the most recent census numbers? This trend isn’t going to change.
m-alta is right. Alberta will have to hot rock bottom first. No oil sands, no gateway pipeline, no golden goose, the guts ripped right out of ‘er, before things will change. By then it will be too late.
Sorry to be “defeatist”.
Blame Crash…..you say defeatist, I say….realist.
This is what politics turns into with a society that views image and optics as more important than issues and substance.
Go out and talk to the average Joe or Mary on the street, if you can stomach the overwelming lack of vocabulary, and see what people deem as being “important” anymore. What you get is a regurgitation of spoonfed political talking points that lack any kind of input of personal critical thought.
REDford will be a brief unelected footnote in history.
you sure don’t sound like Archie Bunker, I think he would call you a MEATHEAD.
Don’t be sorry Archie.
Pull your head off the floor and come up screaming! It’s “that” attitude that makes things happen.
These PC crackpots have major vulnerabilities that can be used against them but you seem to want to surrender without a fight.
You seem to think the world owes you the government you want. That’s not the way it works Archie. You have to work and sometimes fight to get that.
So toughen up. You too Jan.
Hopefully more people will see through the progressive sham of pretending they are conservative and support Wildrose.
Posted by: Ken (Kulak) at February 11, 2012 10:00 AM
Which, when power is attained, will become progressive like everyone else.
No politician IN POWER will seek ways to reduce this power. This would be like the board of directors of a corporation sitting around the long table discussing ways to reduce market share.
Can’t wait for WR to gain power and send a bunch of useless bureaucrats off to find productive work. (Or to BC or Sask, where the welfare is easy to get)
Posted by: fiddle at February 11, 2012 12:18 PM
Dream on fiddle. The bureaucracy will not — can not — be reduced. Can you think of any examples of this happening, even after the election of a putatively conservative government?
This is why libertarians panic at the prospect of a new government programme (which entails a separate bureaucracy): when it’s in, it’s in for good, or rather, ever!
Rhetorical question: What will happen to the worthless bureaucrats when the gun registry is killed off?
I remember commenting on a website some time ago that the influx of population from Ontario and the Maritimes to Alberta could only result in ever more leftist governments.
At the time, I got ground-sluiced without mercy.
Now, not so much. I guess you might say I’ve been juxtorecompensed.
Allison Redford reminds me of Kim Campbell…
So many of the old PC stalwarts are jumping ship and ‘retiring’ so there’ll be new candidates in ridings that have formerly been ministerial strongholds.
MND: “Can you think of any examples of this happening, even after the election of a putatively conservative government?”
I agree with you, as I’ve said repeatedly in the past. Now, we have a perfect test case in front of us. PMH has launched a comprehensive review of government program activity with a view to reducing it. So let’s just see whether it happens or not. Because if Harper and the boys and girls can’t get it done, then it can’t be done.
Allison Redford is toast.
You should have seen the poll numbers before the Social credit party died. They figured it was a cake walk. They where wrong. Albertans don’t do things by half measures. She has tipped her hand. Shes a tru7e red leftist. Another pink budget just like red Eds.
Can you think of any examples of this happening, even after the election of a putatively conservative government?
Maybe you don’t remember Ronald Reagan firing the air traffic controllers. As well as deregulation…
Hey Blue Crash, I agree and don’t mean to be defeatest. I have joined the wildRose, go to meetings, donated and promote them all I can. They are not conservative enough for me but far and away the best alternative. Unfortunately most Albertans I talk to are not interested, they have jobs and unfortunately, go with the approach it’s not that bad. I hope you are right and we can make a change.
Ronald Reagan..now there was a guy with some testicular capability. Not since Ralph have we witnessed anything close to that with the exception of maybe Danny Williams – sometimes.
Allision Redford is a Scheming-Screaming Self Serving Pinko SOCIALIST in the true mold of Chretien/Trudeau [that (_i_)hole], and Nancy Pelosi.
PST..?? Over my dead body..Tell your friends and acquaintences that may NOT be so political..The PC’s want a PST. I quote Ron Liepert:
“move away from volatile resource revenues to fund ongoing programs, and move toward a more sustainable revenue base.”
That says to me, they intend to spend, spend & spend and in order to pay for this spending..tax the flippin daylights out of the rest of us
P S T.
Alison Blunderland is a Judas goat appointed by the new Alberta bureaucratic elite to lead Albertans into ever bigger government and smaller lives for the rest of us.
One of the reasons that the Conservatives finally re-took Ottawa was because the media finally stopped giving the Liberals such a free ride. Canadians aren’t stupid, and given accurate information they will make an informed decision.
But right now, the Edmonton Journal is treating Alison Redford and the left wing PC party as the second coming. I imagine the Calgary Herald is in lock-step as well. It’s nauseating.
The only way the Wildrose can win this time is by geeting their message out on their own dime, and they have a fraction of the PCs’ $$$ resources to fight that battle with. It is possible, but it will be tough unless the media turn against Redford.
But as everyone squalls about a deficit the conservatives never mention the 8.5 billion that goes straight to Kwebec every year along with the other 4 to 5 billion that goes to Greentario and the Maritimes.
While freeloader bartinky slurps up his portion of the $5 billion+ transferred to welfare bum farmers. Proving daily there ain’t no hypocrite like an SDA hypocrite.
P = Progressive
S = Slimy
T = Tax
As someone who is pro life I cannot in good conscience vote for any of the Alberta provincial parties come next election as all of the party leaders are pro abortion. I can only hope that there will be a conservative independent who’s pro life running in my constituency.