34 Replies to “The Lawfare of Environmental Zealots”

  1. Just like the Canadian Wheat Board, they will try every trick in the book to keep the scam going.

  2. Democracy = majority rule
    Majority vote for Harper
    Harper acts with confidence of the majority
    Supreme court rules any act of a majority government is deemed to be in the best interests of the majority (greater good)
    Harper lapses Koyoto agreement as a costly waste
    Majority agree
    Where is the legal liability?
    Does Quebec admit waterhead morons to the bar?
    Ditto for the BQ?

  3. I’m sick and tired of this crap.
    These products of conception and their ilk are just wasting time and taxpayers money. There’s no way in hell they could ever win in a court of law. I’m mindful of the douchbags that try to arrest Bush, Rove, Chaney et al for so called war crimes.
    Let them take it to the International Court in the Hague or some UN commission where they can mentally masturbate over it for years upon years.
    Meanwhile, leave the rest of us alone.

  4. As usual, these fascists don’t think things through. Let’s presume for one hallucinatory moment that these clowns won their law suit (after running through the Federal Court, Federal Court of Appeal and Supreme Court….nothwithstanding that Parliament is the ultimate authority in the land). What then?
    What remedy would these morons seek? Would it be reinstatement of the fraud called “Kyoto”? And if so, Canada would then have to send off $14 billion to some unknown entity as a “penalty” for nor reaching the stupid targets “negotiated” by the Shawinigan Strangler. In other words, every Canadian family of four would have to shell out $2,000 to this unknown UN entity.
    Yeah….that’ll go over well.
    The government should investigate the potential for a HUGH counter suit and should seek full client/solicitor costs from these bozos.

  6. Open the books Mr Harper! Tear down these walls of stinking liberalism, show Canada how much money has been squandered and stolen through the CWB gun control, Kyoto etc, that action alone will stop all these absurd parasitic lawsuits by these parasites that have about killed the host. Name names, show the people through Sun News, it is your only media friend after these sites. This welfare bum province of Quebec has turned its back on you Mr. Harper, they are 200 billion in debt and they think they call the shots, does anyone else have a banker that cowers when the client owes him this much?

  7. Some conservatives agree with Kyoto? BS. I want names and affidavits attached to this law suit otherwise summary judgment.

  8. I think the issue is that the government is ignoring an act of Parliament.
    IF Parliament passed a law that brought us into Kyoto, there should be a law passed to bring us out.
    Think of it this way, a Liberal or NDP minority government deciding to bring back the CWB single desk or to reimpose the Long Gun Registry without an act of Parliament.
    Harper could be setting a bad precedent here.

  9. Stopped at 2:57.
    Refresh my memory: Did we have a “national debate” over getting into Kyoto?

  10. The leftard corpse is twitching.
    Law school; just a hair above zjurnalism, and pederasty

  11. The guy behind this, Daniel Turp, was not only a Bloc MP but also, more recently, a PQ deputy in Quebec. A cultivated sort of chap who wears bow ties, he’s personally charming & likeable (more than can be said for his comrade Julius Grey), and represented Mercier, the wackiest riding in the province, AKA Montreal’s trendy Plateau Mont-Royal district. He lost last time round (in 2008) to a far-left splinter candidate, Amir Khadir of Québec Solidaire, known for throwing shoes at pictures of George Bush & boycotting stores that sell Israeli products. You’ve got to tilt in that direction to have much hope of getting elected in Mercier.

  12. Here all along I thought that those rumours of German U boats being fueled and restocked in Quebec were just rumours,now I’m not so sure.

  13. SDH says “I think the issue is that the government is ignoring an act of Parliament.
    IF Parliament passed a law that brought us into Kyoto, there should be a law passed to bring us out.”
    No….the Kyoto accord itself contains the mechanism to withdraw from Kyoto. The government merely exercised that right.
    This clown has no case.

  14. What remedy would these morons seek? Would it be reinstatement of the fraud called “Kyoto”? And if so, Canada would then have to send off $14 billion to some unknown entity as a “penalty” for nor reaching the stupid targets “negotiated” by the Shawinigan Strangler.
    ~Joey
    Take the entire penalty out of Quebec’s transfer payments.
    They were the province which supported Kyoto and hoped to benefit the most from it.

  15. C’mon Sun News, dive in!
    Collar Bob Rae and confirm he supports this travesty. Then give him sveral examples of Liberal arrogance in the past (No GST, wait, Yes GST – or perhaps the National Energy Board)and ask him if whether he thinks there is s statute of limitations on calling government decisions into question.
    Do the same for the NDP.
    Better yet, come up with your own lawsuit to change a prior government decision, one that is so absurd no one would consider it, and ask all concerned what the difference is.
    I love you Sun News, but there’s so much more you could be doing – the pickings are so easy!

  16. Good ideas,bart,Johnny. And after all this travesty is over, hit the buggers with a legal bill for the entire cost,Court,lawyers,etc.
    That should keep them scrambling for years.
    btw,Mr.Harper, we’re STILL waiting for the end of the Long Gun registry that was supposed to end in December/11. What are you waiting for,does the RCMP want to seize MORE legally owned property?

  17. Since the CPC has been the Government since 2006 I wondered why they would produce legislation like this “Kyoto Protocol Implementation Act”. This Act was a private members bill that the opposition in a minority Parliament got passed over the Government’s objection.
    There has already been an attempt to have a judicial review of the Government’s performance with respect to this statute, an action raised by the group “Friends of the Earth”. The Federal Court of Canada found in 2008 that the legislation itself is not justiciable, meaning that there is no issue that a court can resolve. This decision was appealed and the Court of Appeal sided with the lower court. The Supremes rejected leave to appeal to them in 2009.
    If you’re interested here’s a link to that sad affair courtesy of “ecojustice”. http://www.ecojustice.ca/cases/kyoto-protocol-implementation-act-lawsuit
    Ken (Kulak)’s comment at the top of the thread nailed it right off the bat.

  18. Friends of the Bloodstained Earth.
    Just another anti-prosperity Marxist front group.

  19. Two things:
    – Law professor making application with law students doing the legwork… sounds like a class project with MSM exposure (bonus points).
    – A Bloc Head caring about Canada???
    If this ever gets heard it will be after the Kyoto Protocol has expired anyhow.

  20. The spoiled brats of the left holding their breath until they turn blue.
    Keep holding … keep holding, now please expire.

  21. @Me No Dhimmi
    We never did, and there was no national referendum on it either. That makes the inclusionary act of joining an act of government and of the minister, and in turn the same would apply for canada leaving. That’s providing the justices have a lick of common sense, since most of the justices we have in the supreme court do seem to have this. I don’t think this will get very far.
    They’re very leery of dealing with anything that tromps all over the whole separation of the levels of government.

  22. This kind of crap will continue until we hold those filing these kinds of lawsuits resposible for all of the costs. This includes the lawyers on both sides, and all of the court time. As with the former CWB directors, if these people knew they would be held resposible for the hundreds of thousands of dollars the taxpayers are spending these political stunts would not happen.

  23. There is no question whether or not Kyoto is dead. Just on the method it was killed. Harper can kill it as often as necessary with a majority.I like Oz’s idea. Take all associated costs out of Quebec’s transfer payments since that is the Mecca of the bark eating druids.

  25. Everything that bartinky at January 16, 2012 10:42 AM said: sometimes the best defense is a powerful offense.
    Make those fanatics dig into their own pockets to protect the robbers in the scientific world who brought this fraud out – a fraud perpetuated for political reasons! The cowardly so called scientists abandoned all their credability for cash.
    Canadians should be thanking websites like SDA and Whats Up, and some honest science men like Tim Ball and a few politicians like Mr. Moncton and PMSH (who saw this hoax for what it was when the Liberanos tried to pass off this Koyota sows ear as a silk purse).
    One thing about Quebec that is constant is the never ending plotting in that province to ‘live free’ on the $$ from the rest of Canada. This is their latest proposal to acquire a slush bucket for the left wing fanatics in Quebec. Same story, new page.

  26. I wonder how many of these lawyers are being paid off. Yeah sure pro Bono. Look behind the scenes to see the foreign money pouring into bank accounts. These parasites have to go or Canada has no future.
    This is the lefts way to destroy even Parliamentary decisions. In effect destroying democracy for Judicial Oligarchy. Its how the left is getting around an elected government.

  27. Who hires a human rights lawya when the plaintiff is asserting Harper breached the contract??? Do contracts now have human rights??

  28. Because we all know the world would be run so much better if lawyers were in charge of everything.

  29. Just another example of the lefty, eco-zealots, global warmest, etc trying to delay, get publicity, embarrass the gov etc. If they can’t take control of this country through election they’ll just keep wearing the country down with all their crap till the rest of us give up the fight to make it a place worth living in.

  30. Eli, yes, there was indeed a Parliamentary debate over the Kyoto Protocol. It came with the resolution to ratify the Protocol on December 10, 2002. And it was a lengthy debate, as one CPC member filibustered the procedings alone for nearly two days.
    The Kyoto Implementation Act has no force, as no government can be compelled by an Opposition to spend money against its wishes.
    The media is getting this wrong of course. Peter Kent did no such thing unilaterally. It was done with a resolution by Cabinet which is sufficient to provide withdrawal notice to UNFCCC of Canada’s withdrawal. To tidy up the loose ends, the government can simply pass a House resolution declaring the 2002 ratification null and void.
    Revnant Dream, its simpler and more corrupt than mere foreign money pouring in. The legal firm has the work contracted by a charity which then pays the bills by issuing a charitable receipt. What needs to be looked at is if the charitable receipts greatly exceed the normal billable hours rate. The charity gets free legal service, and the law firm gets a huge tax deduction.
    WE pay the legal bills; ALL of them, not just the government’s portion.

  32. What happens if the government wins? Will they ask the court for the plaintiffs to cover legal expenses? As a tax pay I want to know.

  33. Duffman, the history here is rather murky. During the 1990s, Energy Probe sued the federal government over the constitutionality of the Nuclear Liabiity Act. Probe lost the case, and the defendants were awarded costs. Which shows you how bad Probe’s case was.
    The government let them off the hook. This after an eight-year case that consumed thousands of hours of time beforehand and hundreds of hours in court. The court sessions alone went through about 30 witnesses, each lasting 1-2 days.
    Revnant, the real issue here is not the legal profession. The real issue here is how some politically oriented so-called charities corrupt the process.
    “Rules are for little people; we’re pursuing the cause of truth, justice and the eco-way.”
    But yes, your main point is correct. Organizations like West Coast Environmental Law Association have a ton of offshore money feeding them.

  34. “Take the entire penalty out of Quebec’s transfer payments. They were the province which supported Kyoto and hoped to benefit the most from it.”
    HA HA HA HA HA!!!!! That’s brilliant. And almost worth losing a court case to see it implemented.
    Nice one.
    mhb23re

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