As Publius puts it:
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There is certainly racism in modern Canada, it is mostly directed at those of European descent. It is a racism that has been devised and implemented overwhelmingly by people of European descent. White people hampering other white people to help non-whites. Think of it as a collectivism where one collective abnegates itself in favour of another collective. Altruistic collectivism in its purest form.
I use the word “help” in a relative way. At some level the self-hating white folks do think they are helping various minorities. Altruism, however, is not their primary motivation. As is often the case altruism is the justification for an irrational psychological need. In this case it is a desire to feel morally superior…
Any way for Gualtieri to sue the so called judge and the a hole that attacked him?
Martin, he can sue the A-Hole but the A-Hole will have made himself judgement proof.
Besides, try serving a legal document on a Reserve.
Altruism means giving at the expense of oneself, not the expense of others.
This Judge Whitten abnegates justice and replaces it with some notion of “social justice” because some other Indian was theoretically abused by some other white person, neither persons being the subjects of the specific case before him.
This Judge Whitten should be disbarred.
If the Crown does not appeal this and win then we have no law or justice in Canada and aggrieved people should henceforth take the law into their own hands.
@Ralph….I guess you are right but someting needs to be done. @oz……More and more people feel that taking the law into thier own hands is the only option …and can you blame them
OK.. let’s see if I got this straight. Gualtieri was attacked by another man, an attack which almost killed him and has left him with debilitating injuries for life. But because his attacker is aboriginal, Gualtieri does not get full justice under the law: his attacker walks free after a wrist-slapping sentence merely because of his ethnicity.
But Gualtieri has no control over the ethnicity of his attacker. It isn’t something that HE did to the man. So Gualtieri is entitled to less justice before the law than if he’d been attacked by a white thug, because… uh, because… OK, I give up.
This is how anarchy begins.
When you have special laws for people just because they are different. Than no one is safe from this abuse. Than Justice becomes every man for themselves.
You either have one law for all or people begin to make law for themselves. Its that simple.
The likes of Judge Whitten are breaking down civil society one self righteous demented case, after another. It why Harper is working hard on Justice reforms. The liberals have almost destroy our legal system let alone a Justice one.
I’m sure Mr.Gualtieri can sue Mr.Smoke-too-much, BUT Mr.Smoke IS an “Aboriginal” and he will be provided with a lawyer,probably someone of the stature of Clayton Ruby.
And ALL at taxpayer’s expense. Aboriginals/Natives/First Nations/Indians WILL get free legal aid even if the legal aid budget is maxed out.
Try to access legal aid if you’re a working White Guy, you have to bankrupt yourself first.
And,IF Mr.Gualtieri does win, a BIG “IF”, Mr. Smoke has no assets anyway,so the Judge can award him all the tea in China,and Mr.Gualtieri will see absolutely NOTHING, except,of course a legal bill in the six-figure range for his lawsuit.
Mr.Harper wants to re-examine the “Indian Act”,and we should be sure to encourage exactly that. Make the Indians EQUAL to the rest of us, instead of a separate and entitled group.
Once again, the end game of liberalism is law of the jungle — those who can protect themselves by force, collectively if need be; the weak become victims without recourse and the violent and aggressive behave as they wish with impunity.
Oz @ 3:54:
Right on! Except perhaps for that last bit, although I share the sentiment. This is an apartheid legal system: let’s start calling it what it is.
Ellen in T.O. @ 4:00:
Yes, but, in the demented minds of those running our courts and too much of our politics, no: the victim is white. Therefore he is guilty, and not just figuratively. The perp’s being indian means he cannot be fully culpable: he’s depraved “on account a” his ancestors were deprived. By you!
Ellie in T.O. said: “So Gualtieri is entitled to less justice before the law than if he’d been attacked by a white thug, because… uh, because… ”
… because the Ontario Liberals know it will play better that way in the Toronto Star. If the judge had given this pr1ck 15 years, which is what -I- would get if -I- did that, then the Star would have been weeping and wailing about the inhumanity of it all, and he’s just an underprivileged aboriginal child, what an Evile Empire Canada is, boo hoo.
And by the way, for people that have never been down to Caledonia to see the Six Nations Reserve, the Reserve looks no different than any other town in Southern Ontario. No tarpaper shacks, no rural poverty wreckage shambling about. This ain’t Atawapiskat.
Which just makes the ruling SO much more full of sh1t.
Incidentally, anyone waiting for the Crown to appeal this sentence is going to wait a long damn time. The Fix, as they say, Is In. The only justice Mr. Gualtieri is ever going to get is if somebody shoots this punk coming back for Round Two.
In other news, a 911 dispatcher in Oklahoma tells a young mother to go ahead and shoot the sumb1tch during a home invasion, which she then went ahead and did. 12 gauge, blew him right out of his socks. gma.yahoo.com/okla-woman-shoots-kills-intruder-911-operators-okay-091106413.html The girl has NOT been charged, since it was an obvious self defense.
See if you can guess where Sam Gualtieri would be right now if he’d killed his attacker instead of getting beaten half to death.
Hey, can anyone tell me where the highest concentration of judges lives? Is it Manotick or Rockliffe Park?
Wherever it is, I’m telling any and all ‘warriors’ out there that it it was sacred ground, taken from you illegally a few centuries ago.
One Law For All is hard if you’re a Liberal.
Why bother suing someone who owns nothing and is a ward of the Crown. The criminals lawyer will be supplied by the taxpayer and the victim will go broke sueing for what? Great system as long as you are a minority. If you do complain about the minority issue you will be a racist and catch the attention of the CHRC which only hauls white males in front of their star chamber. Can’t win.
Of course the Indian Act is the most racist piece of legislation in Canada.
In the name of ‘civilizing’ the ‘savages’ Canada permits this twaddle to continue.
The Indian Act merely suggests for historical reasons, that white man’s culture is superior to red man’s culture.
What aboriginal culture needs is to sever the Indian Act, and be self supporting functioning communities, integrated into the larger Canadian fabric. The current recipe a la Atawapiskat, Davis Inlet, etc., clearly isn’t working…
Of course, the billions of dollars running this mini empire will have plenty of ‘stake holders’ willing to exact their pound of flesh before any meaningful change will take place.
The judge in this case is merely affirming that Mr. “Smoke and Mirrors” is too dumb, morally compromised, and still a ‘savage’ and therefore not responsible.
But naturally the blessed Charter suggests we are all ‘equal before the law’; which is as we have now learned is absolute rubbish.
Not only is the ruling an insult to Sam Gualtieri, it is an insult to every self respecting law abiding native.
The ruling deserves several arrows through it.
I would put even money that every native can be “Dancing with Big Cats”…
Cheers
Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
The more of this kind of thing I see, the more I think Robert A. Heinlein was bang on in Starship Troopers when he describes how the society in the book came to be.
Just another example of these good for nothing parasites getting special treatment.Iam getting sick and tired of losing half my paycheck every month to support these good for nothing savages.!!!
My best friend,my brother-in-law are both native. I can see a time that whites will roam the streets with guns looking for nats to shot because of shit judges like this. They are teaching whites to hate all natives because of rulings like this. This is a sad day in our history. May God help us all, white and native.
It’s again apparent by this judgement handed down the Indians are above our laws, they simply don’t apply to them.
As for suing the Indian perpetrator, it would be the same as suing the Canadian taxpayers.
The Indian Act should be abolished and this is a prime example.
The 6 nations claims the jurisdiction on which the crime occured. The convicted assailent claims he was acting as an agent of that occupied jurisdiction. The Ontario government has defacto ceeded the jurisdiction to 6 nations. Therefore the Gaultieris should sue the perpetrator and his 6 nations enablers. Perhaps we will learn who is in charge of that cluster frig of a first nation when they are served with a law suit.
Animal Farm. Says it all.
Robert A. Heinlein was right about a lot of things:
“An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.” –Beyond This Horizon (1942)
We live in a lieberal socially engineered society. Hopefully we can begin to see the end of that lieberal government control, but it will take decades to expunge the harm that the previous lieberal regimes did to Canada.
People generally get the government they deserve, vote conservative.
Revnant Dream is right @ 4:10.
Under socialism some are more equal than others.
Iam getting sick and tired of losing half my paycheck every month to support these good for nothing savages.!!!
Wow, those in the 50% tax bracket are way above my ‘pay grade’.
However I’m glad to see that the wealthy share my sentiments, since they are in a much better financial position to actually do something about it.
The government only listens to us ‘little people’ at election time.
The discrimination is historical and has been evident both in the decline of both the Western and the Eastern Roman Empires. This is also true of Mongol and of various iterations of Islam.
The discrminations is based on Urban (read- Monarchy/Religious leadership)ignorance of Rural realities.
In the current Ontario ruling class the bulk of votes remain in the increasingly large Canadian cities. General ignorance of urbanites on how to live without following strict adherence to the need of the ruling “political” class will submit willingly to the dogma of using other peoples money as “capture” and votes to maintain their privileged position.
The dogma of protecting the disadvantaged NIMBY has been a succesful strategy. However this strategy comes apart when the perceived disadvantaged move within the backyard of the political class and become an impediment to the urban culture.
At this point individuals capable of living without hand holding policies, usually finding a manner of living somehow out of the increasingly ignorant milieu of the urban citizen, decide enough is enough. New areas of authority will become the guiding force of the capable.
Then; hopefully non-violent methods, establish a new order and the capable move forward while the out of step non providers and incapable slide away.
It should have happened in the last Ontario election. Unless the recognition of just how bad things are meant not trying to hard.
Winning meant assuming responsibilty at this stage of the Judicial/Environmental/Financial debacle which is now Ontario. It meant becoming the fall guy to a compromised media and scapegoat for a disgraced political class. Cheers;
.
This is what social justice looks like.
The odd thing about going easy on violent native offenders is that they get to go back to the reserve and perpetrate more violence on the natives.
It is probably being racist not jailing a violent native offender and denying him adequate rehabilitation. It is also racist to send him back to a native community without offering them adequate protection.
Sounds like the judge who gave the black guys, in a rape conviction, essentially no penalty because rape was part of black society. I remember that one upsetting some black women but the racist judge stayed judging.
As one who saw what happened in Caledonia “up close and personal”, I can attest to the fact that the rule of law was blatantly ignored. The OPP was personally directed by the Provincial Government to keep hands off the Indians. I place the blame squarely on Dalton McGuinty and his government for the tragedy that is Caledonia.
For the record, Gualtieri was NOT on the Douglas Creek Estates, which was the land in question. He was on undisputed property nearby.
The residents on Six Nations are, by and large, decent law-abiding people.A few trouble makers combined with the force of the Mohawk Warriors intimidated the residents to the extent that they kept their mouths shut for fear of reprisal.
I could write a book about the events that occurred there but…….Blatchford did a much better job of chronicling it.
Timmies in Caledonia has a lock on their sh1t house, only Timmies I’v ever seen with this added feature, and that says a lot about “whom this may be because of”, turn indians in to Canadians please
I know what would happen if Mt Gualtieri was a close family member of mine.
…and that’s all I’m gonna say.
From the National Post article:
“That isn’t new – since a 1999 Supreme Court ruling, judges have been required to consider the unique circumstances of aboriginal offenders, who make up a disproportionately large percentage of Canada’s prison population. But this ruling – known as the Gladue decision after Jamie Tanis Gladue, a young aboriginal woman convicted of killing her boyfriend – is not, in the words of Judge Whitten himself, a “get-out-ofjail-free card.”‘
Why the hell would anyone think this is a good idea?
This is why Smoke is a free man and Gualteri is permanently injured.
Of course this shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone who has ever read the Animal Farm:
“ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL
BUT SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS”
That sentence is written into the damn Charter (s15.1 & s15.2):
“Equality Rights
Equality before and under law and equal protection and benefit of law
15. (1) Every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and equal benefit of the law without discrimination and, in particular, without discrimination based on race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability.
(2) Subsection (1) does not preclude any law, program or activity that has as its object the amelioration of conditions of disadvantaged individuals or groups including those that are disadvantaged because of race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability.”
Got that? We’re all equal except when we aren’t.
Thank Turdeau!
Gladue was a pretty bad SCC ruling, but most of the blame belongs on the Liberal government that passed foul legislation.
The judge is not really the responsible entity here. As Christie Blatchford points out this is the result of the Supreme Court’s 1999 Gladue decision, which in turn was its interpretation of an amendment to the Criminal Code requiring judges to take in to account the particular circumstances of aboriginal offenders. This amendment was introduced by none other than Allan Rock.
Judges should be following the laws of Parliament and lower court judges must follow higher court precedent.
From the article:
Ontario Superior Court Judge Alan Whitten had no choice but to take into account the Gladue decision, which has been cited hundreds of times since the high court ruling. Judges who don’t are rapped on the knuckles.
http://www.nationalpost.com/Gladue+decision+long+shadow/5937918/story.html
Two words: Dudley George.
The spineless Liberals are so terrified by the possibility of another Ipperwash incident that they’ve tied their own hands and those of the police as well. Because if there is another such incident, the liberal media will make sure you never hear the end of it. Better to let the occasional white man be beaten to a pulp/killed; the CBC and the Star don’t give a damn about that.