…when work is completed on the Nordsee Ost wind farm, some 30 kilometers (19 miles) north of the island of Helgoland in the North Sea, the sea air will be filled with a strong smell of fumes: diesel fumes.
The reason is as simple as it is surprising. The wind farm operator, German utility RWE, has to keep the sensitive equipment — the drives, hubs and rotor blades — in constant motion, and for now that requires diesel-powered generators.
BAHAHAHAHAHA!
Sounds like some kind of a Rube Goldberg skit.
Don’t they have project managers in Germany?
It might be a good idea to invest in scrap the metal industry. Our ancestors will look upon this age as a madhouse. Its people rubes for allowing this insanity. The Luddites are winning, any real science has almost been stopped, or any future wealth to wards making life better. By econuts & other factions. In the name of Mother Earth stopping all invention. Like the romans did to keep slavery viable.
So wind is going to replace nuclear? I suspect banging 2 rocks together to create a spark to light a fire will replace nuclear. Is the plan to give all manufacturing and heavy industry to the Chinese? When did Germans ever get so stupid?
The turbines in Ontario require hydro electrical power to do the same work… in other words, the Green ain’t so green: it needs “dirty” power to turn a blade of profit (the profit will go to the windy contractors, the Greed energy folks, who fool landowners into thinking they can make money with wind)… what’s that expression, they shall inherit the wind?
I’ve given up on the people that run Sask Power.If they are so stupid that with a degree in electrical engineering,they still believe in wind fairies,either our university system is out to lunch,or they dont have an electrical engineering degree.Or worse,they are LISTENING TO STUPID PEOPLE!
Well at least they won’t have far to go to get the oil to run the diesel-powered generators.
http://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Massive-Oil-Field-Discovered-in-the-North-Sea.html
I understand that Alberta is going the windmill route. Also there is a project to burn coalgas into power around Swan Hills. The privately owned company got a 2 or 3 hundred million loan/grant from the govt.,and they won’t start untill 2015. No doubt this will give them plenty of time to get out of the country with the money.
Any bets can you hit one of those gen with the 30-30 at hunting time? I bet you can’t. Let me know.
“the sea air will be filled with a strong smell of fumes: diesel fumes.”
Hey, Kate.
They actually are Giant Stinking Fans.
Beautiful isn’t it?
Scar- The Germans have always been stupid. They were within a couple of years of perfecting jet planes and atomic bombs, and started a world war with no hope of completing the projects.
remember those ‘green jobs’ ‘bama promised ?
guess he forgot to say where they’d be….
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2011/09/gm-cuts-china-electric-car-deal—-a-china-shakedown/1
Thanks For The Bailout: Government Motors To Move Chevy Volt Production To China…
(USA Today) — General Motors agreed in Shanghai today to develop an electric vehicle platform with longtime Chinese partner SAIC. It effectively moves GM’s future electric vehicle development to China. Unclear is whether this would also lead to assembly of future EVs for the U.S. market in China.
GM plans to start exporting Michigan-made Volts to China by year’s end, but isn’t likely to sell many. The Chinese government is pushing electrics with a subsidy that amounts to about $19,000 per car — but only if the car is made in China. No imports allowed. There also are tariffs on cars imported to China, which lawmakers argue are unfair and may violateworld trade rules.
Girsky hinted that the Volt could eventually be built in China. “If we localize, eventually it won’t have a tariff and it will get the subsidy. We have made no decision on if, when or where we build Volt in the future.”
What this means is that you can’t trust any figures with respect to wind generation. All wind turbines have to be kept in motion when they are on-line, but if there’s no wind, they are drawing current to do this. The question is what is their net output, and that we just don’t know. It is certainly less than the official figures published which only measure output.
And Germany’s is considered the most advanced economy of major European economies ! No wonder the young people want to get out.
All it has ever been about is hucksters like Gore throwing something out to the non bathing, non working bearded hippies to grab onto and do the grunt work for people who stand to get rich off the scam.
I think I get it. They have diesel engines to turn the generators the 80 % of the time the wind isn’t blowing. Really green – not so much.
The turbines in Ontario require hydro electrical power to do the same work… in other words, the Green ain’t so green: it needs “dirty” power to turn a blade of profit
Hydro electric, i.e. generating electricity by falling water is about as clean as it gets. What’s “dirty” about that? It’s always amusing when the misinformed spout off about what they don’t understand.
Monty Python couldn’t have written a better skit!
Can’t you just hear the dialogue:
“Oh certainly we’re green, oh yes indeedy. The diesel helps keep the fans at optimum operating temperature, whether the wind blows or not. It’s the latest thing y’know. Quite ingenious if I do say so meeself.”
Nof60: “What’s “dirty” about that? It’s always amusing when the misinformed spout off about what they don’t understand.”
Actually it’s peaking power, because it has to be available on demand, which in Ontario means it’s coal- or gas-fired. Ontario’s hydraulic is nearly all used for base load. Maybe you should heed your own last sentence.
“The turbines in Ontario require hydro electrical power to do the same work..(snip)”
“Hydro electric, i.e. generating electricity by falling water is about as clean as it gets. What’s “dirty” about that? It’s always amusing when the misinformed spout off about what they don’t understand.”
North of 60: Unfortunately, you are the one who is misinformed. Electricity is “fungible”. What is taken from somewhere has to be replaced from somewhere else. That nice green hydro power that is being wasted by the stinking giant fans is no longer available to be used elsewhere. Since all electric grids I know of have a mix of generation types, the end result will likely be that more “dirty” energy will need to be produced.
Having said that, I will admit that a hydro/stinking fan combo is the only wind system that is even *remotely* practical. That is because hydro plants can be rapidly changed in output to compensate for the inconsistency of wind power. However, that assumes the river that the dam is on can tolerate rapid changes in flow! In addition, if the hydro plant has to be slowed to the point that water is going over the spillway, then exactly what have the stinking fans accomplished?
Hey guys – go to IESO.ca and you’ll see all the percentages and the breakdowns of generation types in Ont. and see how pathetically low wind is in the whole equation, and how nuclear is our baseload fuel type and how coal is negligible.